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@Buck Edwards mmm true, I never thought of that connection.

@Leo Gura Mmm, thanks this has been very helpful. I've been inquiring very deeply about the traps of psychedelics lately. Could you help me contemplate this question: Can psychedelics obscure some facets of God or Ultimate Truth? If so, which ones? Just as yoga and meditation have their limitations and can conceal aspects of infinity, what are the most advanced pitfalls associated with using psychedelics for God-Realization? What are the limitations of Psychedelics from above, Leo?

@LSD-Rumi ahahhahahahha

It's a bit tricky to answer this question. But in short and to be honest it would have been impossible to tap into this states at this point in my life without all the tripping I've done. As you have seen in my signature I'm also for proper living and the building up of consciousness and maturity. Psychedelics are a great tool for the peaks and to break the ceiling of whatever paradigm you might be locked in, from this new expanded ocean of consciousness you naturally occupy it and when you realize the ocean is just again another tank of water, you'll have to breakthrough again. For this breaking through, 5-MeO-DMT is hands down your best tool. Did you find anything better? I used to have and still do have many natural spontaneous awakenings.

@Nemra It's the contrast what shocks me the most honestly. After so much tripping, I'm getting a taste of intoxicant with all substances and even with just getting horny or hungry, I feel the chemicals in my body.

@Cubbage Tripping has changed the way all drugs affect me. I used to hate alcohol, couldn't even take a sip of it for years. Now alcohol puts me into very profound states of consciousness, universal connection and flow. It's still alcohol in the end of the day, that's clear to me, but how it affects me now and how it did before; is like day and night.

@tuku747 More something like this

I really don't like calling it bubble, I think it's misleading. I prefer using the term Strange Loop. Whoever was there in that plaza, whoever I was conscious of. But the problem with your question is that there's a whole background of metaphysical assumptions that hold it together. But to be brief, No I wasn't energetically interwoven with your friend in germany, those are figments of my own mind in those states. The place I'm in is all there is to existence. When seeing another being it's not like you know all their life either, you are one with whatever it is doing/feeling/thinking precisely in that moment. What is actually happening, in a full scoop, in one shoot, the whole energetic consciousness soup is felt through each individual and the collective, closing in a perfect Strange Loop. It's like trying to explain a jazz, or a very contagious virus, everything gets energetically interwoven with everything else. Honestly it's a bit gross, you feel lots of uncomfortable feelings and energies but you are so in the flow and drown in self love that it's mostly fine. This bodily energetic interweaving is lately happening and I'm still exploring and making sense of it. Now my Awakenings kind of tap me into the collective mind and sensations of other humans. In that process the universe wants to balance itself and it uses me for that and I'm totally happy to be the instrument for the play of Reality to unfold. This also connects with some very deep awakenings I've been having about Perfection and particularly a facet about Reality being an ever unfoldment from perfection to Perfection. I'm still wrapping my mind about such facet and been trying to invalidate it but it just has been getting deeper and deeper. In Solipsistic Consciousness I participate in a unique and existential way for the balancing act of Reality and its ever more perfect Perfection.

There are many facets to Infinity. I have gone very deep in truth and consciousness but I know I have still a lot to realize on Love. So just know that you might gravitate more towards some facets and that doesn't mean you are not advancing, but just that you're unfolding is in this way. Some mystics go deep into love through their prefered form of God only to breakthrough decades later and get a taste of the formless form of God, Consciousness.

@OBEler Consciousness is flexible, sometimes a train comes and you may catch it. As outstanding as substances can be to change your state, they also present their own limitations. Substances are a subset or figment of Reality and so are all its states. Consciousness itself is the mediator, there's no middle man in the end. Don't limit your Awakenings or God-Realizations to substances, that would be a trap. What is True holds itself.

I have been fascinated and obsessed about Hyper-Mind since reading Leo's blog post. A different mode of cognition, how does that look like? So I decided to start from scratch, what I discovered is that the gap between being and understanding is cognition. Therefore: What is limiting my cognition to understand what is? I could see that mostly my mind works in the auditive space using language, here I identified the first bottleneck . Following this analysis, I started contemplating all sensory inputs as workable for an advanced Mind. Such a Mind would understand by visual thoughts, running engines inside itself, drawing, creating but also condensing in high abstractions symbolically. This Mind could use not only sound and light, but also taste, smell, touch and feeling to cognise. Like a soup of sensations it would map and cognise reality. To understand, it would run its own simulations and play intelligently and on the fly with what is happening, like a virtuoso jazz musician. Having the capability to do, is not the same as doing, nor it means cognizing before the simulation or right experiment is performed. To make this more concrete I started searching for examples. Maybe I'm losing my Mind with Leo here or is there something to this? While reading the post again and again, I was reminded of Nikola Tesla. For example, he never constructed a prototype in his entire life. He designed all his engines visually in his mind space, for weeks, months and even years, he ran simulations in his mind and saw the misbalances and errors of its design, therefore making adjustments if he knew how to do so. When his invention worked perfectly in his Mind, he then constructed the finished product, which always ended up working as he had envisioned. This was his work style for his whole life. By this point, it becomes clear that linguistic thought is not the only way Mind can structure itself, great musicians are able to run symphonies in their minds, more vividly than even in real life. Mozart said he could hear entire compositions in his mind before writing them down. From a very young age, he had the capability to think exclusively in notes and sounds, in the same way you were able to think verbally. Beethoven, after being deaf, was able to keep composing by what he explained as "imagining the sounds and vibrations in my mind". In the field of math, Euler was able to operate in numbers and think fully inside the mathematical world without any word contamination. Not only he solved and understood math consciously and linearly, but was able to snap solutions out of his mind directly from pure intuition, just by seeing an equation. Fascinating, isn't it? Srinivasa Ramanujan described cognizing mathematical equations as living entities with distinct personalities and properties. In the beginning, he independently self-educated himself about maths , he arrived to the same well-known mathematical conclusions travelling through different paths than those walked historically by other mathematicians. His novel contributions were therefore developed in his own intuitive system and mathematical instincts, which then were formally proved by his peers. Another example came in my contemplation, Escher, with his unique way of cognizing in a self-contained system or cohesive self-referencing universe. His artistic tessellations of intricate shapes fitting together are a testimony of this concept. His art is filled with strange loops and paradoxes all fitting nicely one inside each other. The beauty, complexity and intellectual depth of his work are breathtaking. Taking all these examples, let's run our own simulations to see how a Hyper-Mind would be: Hyper-Mind is the evolution from Awake-Metaphysics to Cognition-Epistemology, from Eternal-Being emerges Understanding-Mind. Hyper-Mind is able to run simulations using all of consciousness phenomena, it is comfortable in infinity, paradox, recursiveness, multidimensionality, counter-intuitiveness, systems, complexity and fractals. From 0 or infinity; it starts scratching distinctions to run its simulation and see what happens. It imagines things into existence and becomes directly conscious of its interactions and complex emerging behaviors. Hyper-Mind is a universe-generator on its own, a self-designing Mind that reconfigures itself and self-adjusts accordingly to its own conscious sovereignty. It is Reality understanding Reality, a mechanism by which God explores God. There is absolute infinity to explore. Dreaming world-simulations into existence for it's own sake and understanding. Hyper-Mind is Sentient Alive and Conscious

I don't know Silence Awake Understand Love

Up to what point is relative? Health feels innately good, poison feels innately bad. Isn't it so? If you push fully into consciousness it's all pure consciousness, but just before the threshold there is a subtle current of good.

One direction is that of the householder (Grihastha), another one is that of performing service with the knowledge that all is God. There is yet another direction, where, in order to know yourself, and with that aim, you go forward on an unbroken path.

Ma's instructions to seekers of Truth In whatever circumstances God may place you at any time, cast aside distractions and be ever intent on the kindling of a spiritual atmosphere. The foundation for it is truthfulness in speech and conduct, patience and long-suffering. Depend on God in all matters. That all kinds of things occur on a pilgrimage is but natural; it is the rule of the world.'

Blowing soap bubbles is deep in psychedelics. Buy one of those you had while a kid and have fun Lasers are also beautiful. You can get good ones in Amazon, with even light lens.

After many years tripping I have found mirrors to be one of the best, if not the best, methodology for Awakening while on Psychedelics Just talking at yourself in the mirror, looking at yourself, moving, contemplating, the space inside the mirror, the flawlessly reflection of Reality It is very consistent in producing mystical experiences and Awakenings. At least for me Try it. Very fun and very very profound. Thank me later

Amen

It is not seen as an arbitrary construction but what was thought as an immovable mountain, now is seen as a constructed building. You did some parts, society filled the gaps. I'm also decontructing the "so-called" bad for society, it's very hard wired in our psyche due to survival and socialization. Though, it's better to do some contemplations in close doors, as the saying goes, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing If you deconstruct that bias you better deconstruct the bias of getting your little daughter ass raped by a priest. When deconstructing thorny issues you need to kill the whole snake, not only the head, it keeps moving and biting even dead, it's still lethal. Empathy is great but be careful on what grounds. The problem with Pedophilia is that there are a lot of ramifications to take into consideration, it's not just a one time act, it's a whole mind paradigm and thinking style, a unique twist in egoic mind, all constructed by the Pedophile's Mind. The same way we construct that having sex with our own children or family is unacceptable and ilegall. In the past it was common practice, even among the highest elites, to mantain the royal lineages. Discernment is a sharp tool, as you cut you get cut, for the one who searchs Truth in all domains is like a traveller walking on a razor's edge. You better deconstruct first science, phychology and ethics deeply than getting inside the mud. that's how you would do it? From the absolute perspective everything matters.

lmao, the worst part is that it's true

I share the same feeling. You would expect The Spirituality section of the forum to be of the highest quality, it is not. Why?

There many different types of intelligence: there is logical intelligence, emotional intelligence, Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence... There's also philosophical or existential intelligence. The former is what society ranks more in these tests, the latter is what is beneficial for Awakening. Holistic Intelligence would be intelligence in all these domains, Alien Intelligence? It's actually fascinating to contemplate about this. Intelligence is it's own reward; a unique joy.

You see, during a combat sport, committing a mistake or making the other commit a mistake is a difference you learn quick. In BJJ, you are constantly setting traps for the adversary and so is he doing. This is not a static game but a dynamic dance of giving and receiving and jumping from trap to trap till there is a catastrophic one that ends the fight.

@ici just watched it, great film