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Of course he would. He is a very innoncent man! Do you really think so? I expect a bit more from America. The whole world is looking and since Trump came to power, US has become cringe. Hopefully this ends up being just a bad nightmare and society can keep moving forward.

It clearly is so Nah, we'll love it more when we actually realize it

@Husseinisdoingfine I'm expecting his blog post on the issue. It's gonna be juicy

That's the perfect age to be a USA president, it's like becoming a Pope at this point

How prophetic this point and just shows how twisted everything has become. Liberals inforcing law and conservatives for special treatments.

Yes, again the standpoint is everything

Depends on the standpoint you are, what seems genius from one point is seen as crude from another. Be careful with Kant, he will deceive you with his intelligence, as he himself was deceived by it. That's why I chose him as an example for my previous explanation. Wilber is a different beast

That leads me to Consciousness and Truth but not Love. Maybe it will come with time, I'm on the right way I feel that, but Love is not cracking. I was hoping for some advice but it may be hard to tell. Did Love also came late in your journey? Any good questions to contemplate?

How Republicans are gonna square their respect for traditional american law and still vote for trump is gonna be fun to watch. Intense mental gimnastics coming soon

lmao, that's the most guilty sentence i've heard in my whole life

I was joking as I certainly love philosophy but it's also a deep critic to what philosophy has become. Because most philosophers are clueless about Truth as a direct experience, but pursuit it as an intellectual activity and that generates a great fantasy for them that is divorced from Reality. Hence the twisted trap, to such philosophers you need a zen master with a stick to wake them up. For me it's a crime to use your intelligence in a way where you further jail yourself, the ego weponizes their intelligence. For example Kant, had a brilliant mind, you can recognize it immediately, yet so lost inside the labyrinth of it.

@Leo Gura You certainly haven talked with philosophers, those are the worse of the worse

@Breakingthewall I imagine you dying in the middle of an oceanic storm grabbing a shark by the neck

ahhahahah the one who understood, understood I once was so Awake that I felt my eyes would pop out

Touché You are sharp today

The only worthy way to end your human life

In fact I do care but it's a sideway quest. I would rather have a moment of Omniscience than enlightenment

I don't care about enlightenment. I care about being as conscious as it's humanly possible and then even more. Got it It's a non-progressive leap of consciousness into something totally alien to what was previously experienced. A new domain with its own levels inside it. That was such a curveball.

What do you mean with level of consciousness? I'm aware of different states of consciousness and consciousness is definitely fluid. I figure you are relating it with how a rat cannot surpass his own genetic level of consciousness. But isn't being a human a construction you can break from anyway? The human may not have full control over such things but existence being human is another thing. Why should existence have any limits whatsoever regarding higher consciousness? I'm not getting this restrictions you are setting, probably you assume some context that is not clear to me. I don't have any direct experience with non-human creatures that would make classic humans look like ants. I get it, but what is limiting the level of consciousness for such rats if they wanted to get cat-like levels of consciousness?

What is higly conscious? You left it half-cooked, otherwise don't tease

Of course, that's what I was trying to point out. It is practically imposible to not give others an experience you wouldn't want or they wouldn't; as you claim morality is all about. You can strive to do it, as far as you care to do so. That's all. Where you draw the line is the whole point you overlooked and I was pointing how by the same axioms you derived, people draw the line in different places. Moreover, to actually always be aligned with this noble axioms is impossible as you have just said and then pointed some examples of people striving for such impossibility. Of course not. Surviving as a finite thing inflicts pain to other finite things, that's how it is. Has nothing to do with ignorance Already did, in this thread: - - - Whatever, it seemed more that you wanted to be right rather than inquiring into Truth. I can sense it, the way you answered and presented things, it just doesn't put the focus on Truth but just wants to somehow point blindspots and then be right. I just care about Truth. Even if you are right you may not have the Truth.

What is even enlightenment at this point? It's such a constructed notion. What do you want? Truth, consciousness, presence, unity, love, no self, intelligence, infinity... Things like that, but enlightenment? makes no sense to me anymore. You wouldn't know about enlightenment if humans hadn't told you, but you would be conscious anyway!

I would like to share how I found Leo and my first Awakenings. All my life I had been searching Truth, compulsively and almost obsessively, that was my way of life. Nevertheless, I always felt lost despite deeply researching religion, science and philosophy. In the covid lockdown, an interesting video popped out in my feed: What is Truth? The definitive answer. So I watched it and one hour in I said: "Leo you are full of shit" closed the computer and left. But that video was eating me alive inside my mind, couldn't sleep properly and next morning I continued watching the episode. While I was listening to him I suddenly had my first epiphany in life, it was such a profound experience that it changed my life inside out, it felt like I literally broke a spell. From this mystical experience all the work that I had done in philosophy, religion and science, in the pursuit of truth, made sense for the first time. Like the raising sun now I could see clearly all around me. By that time I discovered Sri Anandamayi Ma and thanks to her I had my second epiphany. This one was so huge I blissed out non stop for months, I thought I solved life, but bliss slowly left. I was just so intense into this work that I don't know how I managed to keep my human life and get into university. So close I was to renounce the world and go for Truth full time or die in the attempt. In that regard my uncle, who is a renowned psychologist, and Leo's video on self help were instrumental. Thanks to Leo I also discovered Psychedelics which to this day I feel they are a gift from God. I feel so lucky to have been born after Leo because I know all that it would have taken me to discover for myself what he already shared with us. Deep down I know I would have made it, at least very far, but it just makes my path much easier. Leo genuinely has saved me years of trial and error. Maybe I would still be compulsively searching for the Truth with no results but frustration.

What an epic title! The moment to face yourself my friend My first trip: Interesting trips: My last words on Malt:

“Only you exist, you and you alone. Truly I am contained in everything. Again, you are indeed That Itself. In all infinity is God and no other - I alone am. . . God alone Is; therefore, God itself speaks to itself for the sake of His own revelation. On the surface and in the deepest depths is none but God. In movement God is spontaneous movement, although ever remaining motionless, God is in perpetual motion. . .'in IT' everything exists, although there is nothing - one's own true Self, the Self reposing within Itself." ~ Anandamayi Ma