mr_engineer

Don't personally attack me on an intellectual discussion.

I'm doing R&D for exactly that, seeing how you respond to me saying 'how about we make this word a taboo?'. I'm looking at whether you have any rational objections to this rule!

Don't make this personal, this is an intellectual conversation.

Maybe women make the rules in getting laid. But, in relationships, men make the rules. Time to up our standards as men!

This is the textbook definition of 'narcissist' - A person who only cares about themselves and has no concern for others. When men creep-shame other men, we enable this rhetoric of 'you are unlovable'. The more we unite against this rhetoric, the more we will be able to leave behind unloving women, the more loving the mothers of our children will be, and the better future our society will have.

There's another word for it. It's called 'narcissist'. And narcissism is not illegal. It's normal, actually.

If men start standing up for themselves and stop putting up with being called 'unlovable', they will stop marrying unloving women. That's why.

Or, it means they aren't experienced enough. No, I'm not conflating anything. In relationships, your comfort-levels are your responsibility. If you feel uncomfortable with something in the relationship, are you going to demonize the other person and call them 'unlovable'? Right, it's not well-defined. This is why I think we need to stop using a word that tells people that they're unlovable. But, if those reactions involve calling someone unlovable, that's a red-flag, right?! I talk about the projection of 'uncommunicated intent' on this thread:

What if they don't say 'no', they just call you a 'creep'? And, what if they're doing this, not as an assertion of boundaries, but as an assertion of moral-superiority over you? To insult you deliberately? There are crazy people who are not okay with the narrative that 'the Earth is round'. Does this make the mainstream 'creepy', then?! You can't regulate everything you're not okay with, you can only regulate what's illegal. Manners are well-defined, 'creepiness' is not. How do you regulate it, then, in a way that's not hypocritical? Is there a systematic way to regulate it? Because if there isn't, you're telling someone that their authentic personality is unlovable. Is that okay to you? If you have a fear of heights, this is your problem, right?! Are you going to blame the builders for building high-rise buildings, for 'invoking that fear in you'? No, right?! You're going to learn to deal with it, right?! Same thing here.

I'll tell you why this word should become a taboo. It's because 'creep' implies 'scary individual' or 'unlovable individual'. Because fear is the opposite of love. So, in the name of love, let's taboo this word! This will also promote true femininity, which stands for love, not fear.

Incels generally call themselves that, whereas 'creep' is something that others call you because they're projecting their fears onto you. Fears that have been caused mostly by the media, by repeatedly reporting about school-shootings and rape-cases. And by horror movies.

What if it's authentic to you? And people just have emotional-issues, which is why they're reacting negatively to it? It's not a boundary-violation of any kind, they're just paranoid. 'Creepiness' that's not also criminal, is generally not a boundary-violation. It boils down to people's fears. Cuz boundary-violations are criminalized. How would you teach this to a school kid, then? Threatening is criminal behavior, actually. Aren't their fears their problem? And, 'unpleasant' is subjective, right?

What behavior?! 'Crime' is well-defined, so we don't taboo this word. But, 'creepy behavior' is not well-defined. As mentioned on this thread: That's more like it. The word 'creepy' is not well-defined, though. It just causes unnecessary confusion and destroys men's self-esteem. 'Weird' is a better word to describe the behavior. Slapping is a crime. 'Creepy behavior' is not. Again, what behavior? Be more specific.

How am I offending others?! They're the ones using the swear-word of 'creepy'. That's offensive and that's what we have to taboo. It's just this word that's the problem. If we stop using it, all the problems will be solved.

Exactly my point.

Please read the thread.

@Emerald Then don't blame men for the powerlessness you feel, step into your power.

If we taboo this word, this will be very good for men's self-esteem. It will also be a statement against people who make others responsible for their feelings, it will promote emotional consciousness.

No, it's not more than that. In this thread, I prove that it's just a curse-word and nothing more.

@Emotionalmosquito It's a slur. It's like the N-word for Black people. And we have to taboo it.

If I did that, should I be sued for it?

Which of these is illegal? The reason this question is important, is because that's what can be regulated. This is not about me, this is about dictionary-definitions of words.

My point is, you cannot make blanket rules about what is 'calibrated behavior' vs what is 'uncalibrated behavior'. So, even if you wanted to regulate other people's behavior like this, you couldn't. Maybe those people doing the 'creep-shaming' should learn about context. Which, ironically, is a part of calibration!

You continue to make this personal, about me. I'm not personally attacking anyone here. Yall are.

If my behavior is legal, maybe they're the ones who should be dealing with their issues and facing their fears. Do we want a society of cowards or brave people?! Not me, a lot of other people do that. Because, as I said, they're racist. They're implying that when someone is 'Black', they're 'scary'.