mr_engineer

You people need to go learn what is a crime and what's not a crime, what rights women have vs what rights they don't have, before coming and lecturing me about 'social-calibration'. That's my point. You're trying to lecture me about how to win a game, when you yourselves don't even know the rules.

But the abuser's ideas will fly in real life?! To me, you have zero credibility because you can't hold abusers accountable.

Oh, so now the woman who can't hold abusers accountable is trying to speak for 'everybody'?! Get a grip.

The point being, you're not doing that. You're the one babbling on anonymous forums instead. Blah blah blah assumptions about the anonymous guy. You don't actually know me, because I'm anonymous. So, the abuser is the stronger one? I should become an abuser, instead of telling you how to hold them accountable?! Maybe I should, it sounds more rewarding, given the way you're acting. Where have I talked about my real life?! Projection. Oh, they do. Women live in fear of what they call 'creepy guys', simps force other guys to 'be socially calibrated'. I'm the one who doesn't give a damn!! Thanks for the validation. Not that I give a shit, but thanks anyways. This is man-hate. Actually, I agree. If you don't have anything logical to say, it's also a waste of my time. Finally, someone saying 'try doing what you want to do in real life'. Maybe I will, because none of you had logical arguments against what I've been saying. Your meme wasn't about social-calibration. I just said that it's not socially calibrated on your part, because you were being disrespectful. I'm not giving your ego what it wants, that's for sure. You won the battle, but you lost the war. You don't need protection from what someone else thinks, you need protection from what someone else does. You're not holding the abusers accountable, so you're not protected from them. You're the one fighting the wrong battles. I'm telling you, don't waste your time with me, do something that's actually productive for your own life. It's out of my dictionary and I'm not going to entertain anyone or satisfy the ego of anyone who clings to it. I'm more evolved than this and I expect more evolution from the people I deal with. Keep in mind that you're the one giving attention to my 'weak sauce' thread. I'm not the one who asked you to comment.

When you say 'focus on your BS', you don't really have anything specific in mind, right?! It's just theoretical nonsense. I mean, I can just say 'no, you focus on your BS instead of policing me' and what would you say to that?!

It helps me see through their BS.

If she is so socially calibrated, why can't she hold her own abusers accountable?! What's the point of being socially calibrated, if you can't even exercise your rights in the world?! Isn't the meme a giant projection?! Why should I take this shit from a weak individual who cannot even protect her rights?! You have to understand that this is all she's capable of doing. Making memes about random anonymous people she doesn't know a goddamn thing about, while getting abused by actual criminals out in the real world.

I asked you when I said I give a damn, you didn't answer that. I'm gonna spell it out for you - I don't give a damn if you think I'm stubborn.

Who's out of retorts now, huh?!

When did I say I give a damn?!

My retort is that it's low-consciousness to use this term. End of story.

This is my thread. I make the rules here.

I don't care, I corrected it anyways.

You said something, I corrected it.

Thank you for calling me socially calibrated.

Correction - when they are low-consciousness.

How are you going to convince me to give a damn?! Is this behavior socially calibrated?! If you think it is, I know your level of social-calibration.

@Buck Edwards All of this is fancy-talk for someone who can't hold actual abusers accountable. Don't come to me with your anger, go fix your own relationship-life first.

To me, the ones who use the word 'creepy' are not socially calibrated. They're not calibrated to the fact that the world does not revolve around their feelings, which is why they expect others to take responsibility for their feelings.

You got your boundaries, I got mine. Why do you get to have a monopoly on deciding what's 'appropriate social behavior'?! This is my rule for the people I associate with - do not use this term. For me, or for anyone. I prefer to deal with people who take responsibility for their own feelings and emotions, who do not blame others for them.

Whether it's personal or not is none of your business. I'm not going to tell you about my personal life, end of story. I don't care what people think. You can be as deluded as you want, you can blame others for how you feel as much as you want, as long as you're not acting that out. As long as you're not trying to control their behavior. You can work on yourself and control your feelings, you cannot control other people. What I'm saying is that I find the usage of this term inappropriate, I find the name-calling inappropriate.

To hell with social etiquette (as long as you're not overstepping boundaries). You know what the most 'socially appropriate' thing to do is?! To be an NPC who follows a normal routine and to enable others to 'live' (exist, really) like that. If you try to connect with people, that's not 'socially acceptable'. If you touch-escalate with people, it's not 'socially acceptable'. It's not 'socially acceptable' to open up about your feelings and emotions, because 'others don't want to be burdened by it, they're not your therapist'. There comes a point, where you say 'to hell with this crap, I'm going to do what I want, as long as it's legal and not overstepping boundaries'.

Women, in case you're hoping we'll 'improve our social behavior' when you name-call like this, understand something - we do not give a damn about how we come across. It's your job to see the reality of what we're doing and why, it's your job to be in reality about men. We do not feel the need to tiptoe and walk on eggshells around women, because we do not need your approval. All this name-calling does, is make you come across as a man-hater. So, if you do not want to come across as a man-hater, be genuinely loving to men instead of giving us this crap.

Do not make this personal. This is a big-picture conversation we're having here. Or a third possibility - the guy disregards petty social-norms because they hold him back from going for what he wants. If you didn't tell him what he could do instead to get what he wanted, what you did was kinda pointless. Fine, 'don't be a narcissist'. The word you're looking for is 'narcissist', not 'creepy'. 'Narcissist' means selfish, 'creepy' doesn't mean anything. He did it despite you trying to hold him back. I really don't think you deserve credit in his success-story. Why should I give a damn? Is it illegal to not give a damn about how I come across?

Because, once upon a time, rape was not a crime. So, there would be nowhere to run to from a rapist, it was 'normal'.