Devin

In this right here what you wrote, you don't see a compulsion to control an outcome? (want to survive, don't want civilization to collapse)

I think it's okay to say Daniel is offering something you or he wants to try, the problem I gleen is the compulsion to try to control an outcome, it's like you're saying there's a right and wrong way forward. The boat is that there's not a "right" way forward

We decide what we want to try, we don't decide what happens

Yeah, you're missing the boat. A few problems -This implies we can control or decide our direction -This implies we should want to control or decide our direction

Is there are larger primal incentive than life or death?

You all think you could get society to go along with what Schmachtenberger sells? They wouldn't even take a simple vaccine for a virus that killed their neighbors. A vaccine like the previous 100 they took

Yeah, I think it's fine in the states. Worry sells though, we're bombarded with the negative parts Just go find someone to love

Couples are doing better than ever, never before in recorded history has there been more intimacy and openness and connection in romantic relationships. You're focusing on the negative, a few countries in transitions. https://www.prb.org › resources › is... Is Fertility Rising in Countries With Low Birth Rates? | PRB Figure 1 shows three of the eight countries with definite signs of a rising TFR (Estonia, Iceland, Sweden, the United Kingdom, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Not that marriage or birth rates are a metric to worry about Here I think

I think you're both catastrophizing, go to a local park, couples are doing better than ever. Just quit thinking so much

@Oeaohoo I think he misses the boat as well

I took no offense, I appreciate the passion and openness

Awesome! Just try to enjoy the experience

I thought he did, it sounded like all the old traditional stuff to me, I got the impression he's a conventional muslim

Provide

There's a advice guy I'll recommend you, Tate. I don't support an ideology I support people thinking for themselves and deciding for themselves

Yeah. Fuk all that noise

From what I hear from him it's just him saying it's okay to want that

I'm sorry you feel like someone is requiring you to meet a standard, I don't think they are.

Yep, except the going in that direction part. Many women prefer only one man as well by the way, there are more paints to this than black and white

Banning him gave him a bigger voice

@Tyler Robinson there'll be plenty of male actualized followers for you to find, Tate won't win the World over

I think most of the young men followers would want the same as him as well, and do want them but have had their desires suppressed by the neo feminist movement Why the fuk are women's wants more important than these mens? Party your twenties away if you want, and if guys want young virgins that's what they want

Because he should be allowed to want what he wants

i don't like young women, I already said this It's fair and square because you choose what you want

you're mixing shit up I DONT FOLLOW TATES SHIT I never said you said women should sit at home Why would a man marry an unemployed woman and take up the burden himself? Why does that make sense? You don't think a man can be a family caregiver? What you're saying is sexist as fuk You want old traditions of man providing and the woman whoring her twenties away. I don't want what you're saying I want by the way