Devin

What years and where do you consider "pure capitalist"? I don't believe that has happened. Or when and where are you saying was the closest to "pure capitalism"?

Well I wouldn't say that type of "Progress" has been made. I think there have been changes but consider the church in the past, everyone was mandated to tithe and the church gave the poor everything they need, the Church started many of the historical Universities, and it started hospitals as well, which were free care. And they imprisoned Galileo for saying the earth is round, so yes they also controlled information. There was mandated quarantine for the plague and leprosy

Are you referring to more than the vaccines? If so what other "intervention in peoples lives"?

Well I believe I was sincere in the previous thread along with this one, I don't like to assume what you're pointing to, I figured it was things like free college and healthcare, is this correct? Anything else? I don't believe progressive and liberal are synonymous terms by the way, I know they are incorrectly used interchangeably but I recognize the difference. I also prefer capitalism by the way.

Would like to know how you sell out of digital photos

@Oeaohoo What " woke progressive values predominate in the west"?

I know you're not saying they're 'bad' but it's related perhaps you can't handle them now, but you likely will be able to

You're really missing out on something sweet with a belief like that. You can experience them and use it for 'growth' actually.

Well you have to be careful with a belief like that. You should obviously live the life you want which means leaving people that make that harder, but really people are not toxic. If you were say the Dalai Lama, wouldn't people like you and I be consider toxic if there were such a thing?

better to leave them, you'll find a way

?, do you only hang out with the Dalai Lama?

I think conservatives and liberals are closer in ideology than the extremists on both ends like to scream. Socialism; conservatives support local small community based charity and volunteerism Environment; conservatives want to reduce air and water pollution and both sides like Fusion energy Criminal justice; Liberals want equal enforcement, yes they want more personal liberty than conservatives, but I think there's real common ground here. If laws were enforced equally without bias many laws would wind up being repealed or adjusted. Conservatives actually oppose many types of laws being enforced they just proclaim to be stern on policing while in reality it's only when it comes to favoring themselves. And obviously everyone wants to end crime.

Do you socialize much? In my experience interacting with older and younger generations i see the exact opposite trend, yes there are young materialists but the younger generations are really consciously turning away from this. It's the conservatives i see clinging to preserve it.

This is a perfect Christmas gift for a liberal to give to the Trump supporter in their life, I would so do that

Your profile says Germany, are you German and know U.S. politics?

It appears you have a very deluded view of your cultures history, the only morals and ethics in the past where all just mirage, lies, your true cultural traditions are fear, greed, hate, and oppression; ironically you unknowingly still radiate these qualities very strongly.

The point is; you're the one raging with the machine

yes, that would make you a progressive, wanting to change the status quo, and the machine supporters are the conservatives.

by definition conservative is "raging WITH the machine"

the only thing i see censored is hate, bigotry, and dangerous misinformation

lol, I'm giving you the mic and you won't speak? You're censoring yourself my man, what ideas are being censored?

what ideas are being censored?

@Oeaohoo how do you think conservatives are being oppressed? it's always ironic to me far righters always go on about how minorities should assimilate, but when they are the minority they want "fairness for everyone". It's even more annoying than people wanting free college, at least they're honest about it, far right just lie their arses off.

no, it chelates things like zinc i think which you need. and magnesium

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