Devin

@Danioover9000 I'm talking about the article exclusively, not about all Swedish policy. You can have these pre schools AND traditional parenting, why should schools indoctrinate? And no the pre school is not indoctrinating or conformist, parenting can be traditional, or whatever. Why should the government decide gender roles(Your stance)? You're being the marxist, conformist, and indoctrinator; let the parents raise their children as they see fit and let the school teach 2+2. Do you also think traditional race roles are important?

I watched most of the video, I feel I see what you're getting at, I disagree this has anything to do with the article, the article is about not steering boys to doy 'boy things' and girls to do 'girl things'. The video is about 'you're the gender your're perceived to be'(right?). I find you pushing this in this thread to be reactive and inconsiderate. The article is not about identifying gender, it's about not putting kids in boxes. https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1006928/swedens-gender-neutral-preschools-produce-kids-who-are-more-likely-to-succeed/amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1006928/swedens-gender-neutral-preschools-produce-kids-who-are-more-likely-to-succeed/amp

I will watch the video. I was only commenting on the OP's article, I have no idea about what else they're doing in the country(the parent's and blogger you mentioned), to be honest it doesn't interest me. I was just commenting on the specific example, I have zero knowledge to comment on anything wider really.

Has anyone known anyone that was raised by conscious parents? This includes your children. What were the unique struggles? I suspect the children wouldn't mix in extremely well with the crowd.

Alright this makes a little more sense, but the article doesn't mention correcting the children's language, it's only the teacher's language.

All they're doing is instead of saying "he's right!", they say "Timmy's right", Instead of having the boys and girls toys in separate areas, they're all stored mixed together. Instead of saying "Knock it off boys!", they say "Knock it off kids!". Did you read the article?

Could you provide an example?

They're not teaching anything about gender.

It's the opposite of grooming, they don't teach 'you're not a boy', they just don't teach gender identity at all. "All the girls know they are girls, and all the boys know that they are boys. We are not working with biological gender - we are working with the social thing."

I assume you're aware of what you eat, but there are underlying health conditions that present with those side effects.

I don't think the child will mix in well with their peers, so I'm thinking there should be a heavy concentration of teaching about socialization. I'm wondering if that along with peaceful living and plenty of meditation will be enough to where the potential isolation is not too much for a child. It's almost like you could rob them of their childhood by being conscious, and I don't even mean by teaching spirituality, I think Maslow's Needs is important to follow in order. Just you being conscious could make their peer group be less appealing, I think it would be critically important to show them how to enjoy being with unconscious people.

Just enjoy life man, sincere enjoyment, whatever that means for you is your life purpose, it's as much finding yourself as it is finding a 'purpose'.

My question is spurred by my curiosity from some discussion I've read in other posts, I think @NoSelfSelf has alluded to it a few times if you don't mind discussing it. In relationships where the woman is highly submissive, do you as the man consider the woman a friend? Do you enjoy her as a friend? I come from the new age equality era, and when I try to imagine this relationship I get the sense it is a cold one. I see how it would and has worked for millennia, it just feels like you'd be missing out to me.

Enjoying being with her for other than sex and her making food and babies, enjoying a conversation about personal interests, being playful with each other, caring about each others challenges, worries, feelings, and aspirations and discussing them.

Yeah, something about the insanity; a lot of them don't actually believe the same things, you'll hear clear contradictions in that camp from different people, they just don't argue with each other or denounce each other, like a sport's team's fanatics. They will surely implode and divide, infight, that's a big part of what they are. The reason you see the large social media presence is that's their life, healthier people don't dedicate their lives to fighting trolls.

So you do think there would be a noticable element of friendship in that marriage?

I won't, I don't care

My question is; do you see friendship in that relationship? That is not a debate

I'm asking a simple question, not debating a god damn thing.

@John Paul I don't expect many people to be able to answer my curiosity, that's why I mentioned noselfself, I doubt you carry the view I'm asking about.

I agree. It's not a jab. Submissive Relationship per Devin; Guy does not consider what woman wants. What's your definition?

Well that's what my damn thread is about, start your own damn thread if you don't like it. I asked in highly submissive relationships LIKE THE TALIBAN, is there friendship. Alpha and all that bullshit has nothing to do with this question AT ALL, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. You're going back on ignore.

They've always been there, they just got a publicized leader. Their bark is worse than their bite, and most aren't much crazier than the average person. Don't group them all as the same.

I view them as like a mixture of superstitious, sports fanatics, and afraid for their life. Consider the crowd of a Roman Circus.