Devin

Yeah if you want to slander the left and prop up the right, conflating is very useful for that I agree. "To be fair, even though I agree here, I think it's specifically the extreme left that starts it, and then the alt right of that era maintains and finishes it." Who finished WWII, the left or right "of that era"?

You can't reinforce an inflammatory statement like the left creates the wars and the right finishes them and then just walk away.

But who finished the war, left or right? Obviously people could argue forever as to who started it.

My emphasis is on how you said the alt right finishes it. Obviously people could argue forever as to who started it.

Wouldn't the alt right have been the nazis? WWII.

I only mean in terms of emotional/spiritual compatibility. No, 50% of men couldn't spend the rest of their life happy with anyone let alone a whole 80 percentile of women. Citations; My Ass, Devin, 2023

No, I mean your claim is effectively the west is espousing democracy therefore Russia must suppress with violence. I think the difference from our perspectives is from how the west has used military in the past, I don't group everything the west does as 'left', iraq, vietnam, ..... those were rightwing reasons even though done in the name of democracy they were actually for resources.

'They created this by changing the status quo', that is a liberal use of the term created in terms of war. That's the same as saying the slave that spoke up caused the beatings. Their previous use of military hasn't threatened Russia and was right wing use, is palestine and israel conflict left or right? Iraq, vietnam, were for resources not democracy. Only in name has military offense been for democracy, in actuality it was for right wing reasons.

Online dating or social circle dating? If you meet girls in social circles it's like shooting fish in a barrell, pickup and online dating are inherently working against any man, it is pickiness in a sense but only due to those variables.

What did they do to Russia so far though, to cause this? Provoke, yes, not create, they provoked by supporting democracy and shunning oppression, like scaring a bully by being nice and liked by others.

Take 80% of women in the dating pool, they all have enough "emotional/spiritual" compatibility for 95% of men. The red flag is narcissism or stupidity, not emotional/spiritual compatibility. In terms of divorce though a woman needs that compatibility, sure the couple needs compatibility, because the woman needs it. I was just stating male needs.

I strongly suggest 'Men are from Mars Women are from Venus', you're looking at men like they're women, Men truly are as simple as they seem, they do not need emotional or spiritual compatibility, some do but it's like 0.5%.

I again think you're extrapolating too much, a woman admitting she selects men largely based on social status is not a red flag, if she's a disloyal narcissist those are red flags, but if she's loyal and compassionate and admits that's a huge factor for her then it's a green flag, it show's she's upfront honest and understands herself. She won't admit it due to neo-feminism though. A woman choosing by status or a man choosing by looks does not mean they will leave should that attribute be lost, loyalty is completely separate from these mate selectors. You're looking at caricatures; the gold digger and playboy, those are the minority, and easily recognized by narcissism, dishonesty, and manipulation.

Great topic by the way.

Biggest disadvantage to being a woman would be the expected submissiveness. Advantage; everyone willing to help you with anything, not having to worry about being on your own.

Okay. The 95% I just meant still care about the woman, even though they chose by looks, yeah most aren't very mature.

I think you're too hyper focussed on one element, if he's only focused on looks and a douche bag narcissist yeah of course, but if he admittedly cares about looks 95% of those guys will still care about the woman I promise.

I agree they're focussed on looks, I'm only disagreeing that they require that maintained to the same level after marriage and children.

@StarStruck Does a woman need to maintain 10ness after you're married and having children?

I disagree, that's a caricature, that would be an extremely rare circumstance, once they're married and having children she does not need to maintain that level.

Yeah the issue isn't with what you want it's with the public communication you stated this as fact, like a woman's value is determined at birth, like there's no hope for women that haven't been pursued much by men, like there's nothing she can do about it. It's inconsiderate to state it in that manner especially where females will read it, just like you said if they do therapy they can increase their value, and that men at different stages in life will value a developed 7 more than an average 10. The contention is just the gross overgeneralization to an audience that includes women, your poor treatment by women isn't right but you also don't want to dishearten women on here obviously. I think it was just a friendly remark trying to point out a blindspot.

Yeah, I was just trying to talk about what she was getting at, do you agree that women can increase their value? Say the 7 becoming highly conscious. I think she was just wanting to interject that we're talking in a gross generalization, which is inconsiderate to female listeners, pretty disheartening wouldn't you say, to hear there's no point in trying to improve yourself?

Well in the general sense that's true but to respond to what she's getting at women can absolutely increase their value as well; would you rather have a highly conscious 7 or an average 10? You could also say the reverse about men, "men are born into their value, whatever social class they're born into", in general this is true as well.

I think you're extrapolating incorrectly here, men's fixation with looks is only for procreating, after you're married and having kids that guy doesn't drop you for someone better looking. I really don't hear about that sort of thing, most divorce is actually initiated by women. For the never having children crowd you're right though.

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