Razard86

Only possible with weakness. God is so powerful that unless God takes form and place itself under pressure it would never be able to realize it is not God as a limited form. Only through its connection as form to the formless can it awaken to itself as God. Without a conscious connection it cannot be God as we know it.

1. From one perspective it is predetermined from another perspective it isn't. I already explained that reality is both one way and another way. First there is something called karma, the predetermination of your life is based on patterns/habits which we call karma. For example, some people eat the same thing, think the same thing, and do the same things. Like freaking robots. In this way there life is predetermined because how they choose to respond to events is the SAME. The only way to escape predetermination is to escape the cycle of karma which you do by TRYING NEW THINGS. Yes you create everything and nothing is outside of you, but within the first person perspective you have the ability to RESPOND to an event of your creation. Your ability to RESPOND is your FREE WILL. On the HIGHEST LEVEL you still have FREE WILL because EVERYTHING you ever experience is your FREE WILL. Now STOP misunderstanding the things I say and CLAIM I said there is no free will. It is BOTH TRUE AND UNTRUE. If you fall asleep into your karmic patterns you give up your free will. But ultimately since you are the ABSOLUTE even that is an expression of your free will. Why is it free? Because what is binding you if there is ONLY YOU? ONLY YOU CAN BIND YOU so your will is ALWAYS FREE.

Infinite power expressed as pain and suffering is what makes it real. I want you to imagine a world without pain and suffering and explain to me how quickly God would realize.....its own divinity. How can God hide its own divinity from itself without pain and suffering. That rock....if God couldn't experience pain from the strain of not being able to pick up that rock in your example would stop God from feeling WEAK. Pain and suffering create the feeling of WEAKNESS. God is not weak, God is ABSOLUTE STRENGTH. But God can use its infinite power and turn itself into a victim and thus must use its strength to overcome the feeling of being weak. Without this....God would automatically know it was God. No journey, no awakening, without pain and suffering.

The ego is NOT an illusion and it is NOT a collection of thoughts. The EGO= LIFE. It is the drive to survive. It is a finite aspect in which houses all the authority, beauty, and innocence. This is why the ego cannot be killed, it can be purified of its distortions, but it cannot be killed. The ego is eternal, and will exist for all eternity because it is literally YOUR LIFE FORCE. Your drive to survive is ONE with your LIFE FORCE and your LIFE FORCE is ETERNAL. What I have realized is current Spirituality DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE EGO IS!!! You think the ego is some bundle of thoughts and perceptions, it is NOT it is the absolute. The phrase ocean in a drop poetically describes very nicely what it is. If the OCEAN is the ABSOLUTE the ego is the drop in which the ABSOLUTE puts all of itself. That drop....is eternal.

Sigh.........you don't get it lol.....

If Pain and suffering didn't exist, there would be a difference. Without Pain....you have nothing to ground you in what we call real. For example....the phrase "Shit just got real" is used when PAIN enters the building. Notice Leo's apology followed his own personal pain, same with me being humbled. Suffering/Pain= Is one of the strongest attachments, and grounding mechanisms in Reality. Without it....it wouldn't be real.

Evolution is survival, Evolution deals with adapting and changing to suit the needed environment= Survival. Stop trying to find ways to disagree I'm starting to get annoyed at you all trying to find ways to disagree. You can contribute to a conversation without trying to find ways to disagree. The whole study on evolution FALLS UNDER SURVIVAL. The EGO is based on survival, that is what it is. Survival IS COMPLEX!!! Your understanding about survival is too limited. Survival is all encompassing it involves psychology, biology, sociology, history, the desire for a legacy is the desire to survive, procreation is about survival, culture is about survival, cooperation is about survival. You don't get it because you don't understand what survival entails. Please educate yourself on a topic before you go around disagreeing all the time.

Lol that's the hard mode. For some reason we make it that the other characters become depressed, and are scared to realize that all of existence is just God living a story through its creations. That's what I don't understand, why am I, as the I AM so ready to punish myself if I keep calling it an illusion. The feminine/romantic aspect of myself, punishes me when I call it an illusion, and then it challenged me over and over until I admitted that the illusion...is also REAL. It used pain, and suffering until I admitted that the dream is also real because of pain and suffering.

*SIGH.....this is both true and untrue and true at the same time. Once you awaken....there is nobody else to awaken. But in another sense there is, because you can create a story using the full powers of your REALNESS to concoct a BELIEVABLE story that there are others to awaken. Since there is only you, and your power creates what we call REAL, this story...is REAL if you say it is. Also....if you rebel against this realness and claim otherwise....let's just say you can teach yourself that when you say something is REAL, it's REAL LOL.

Its not an illusion that's the point I am making. If the ego was an illusion....we wouldn't waste our time talking about it. I just told you the EGO IS YOUR DRIVE TO SURVIVE. Would you call your drive to survive an illusion? If I came at you with a knife, would you defend yourself or let me take you out? If the first then that desire to PROTECT yourself is your ego!!! Is that an illusion? It's not!!! This is why I said, you all need to take back your authority and discover stuff for yourself instead of parroting old teachings. My contribution to Spirituality is that the EGO is your desire to survive. This desire to survive is also one with your creative spark. So your ego desires to survive and will use the full power of your creativity to pull this off. This is why it can be tricky/devilish/creative because it will do whatever it has to, to survive. This means it will conform to its environment and go with the flow or rebel to protect its formed identity. This is NOT an illusion. Your desire to adhere to a teaching, and to defend that teaching is EGO!!! All meaning and intepretation falls under ego. Your authority comes from ego!!! Which again is your desire to protect your boundaries. Please explain again....how this is an illusion? You see how silly you sound!!! Don't believe anything anyone tells you, test it out for yourself.

THIS^^^....my loved ones....started to look unreal....I died inside when I saw it. For awhile I became so indifferent to it all, then I learned to love it. Then Reality informed me that Solipsism is only one way to perceive Reality and that my previous way of looking at reality was just as valid as the waking up to it being purely imaginary. Then Reality showed me it could put everything back to how it looked before with me still able to break out and return it to unreality as well. Basically once you wake up, you can put yourself asleep again but do it consciously, and you can wake back up fully as well. So basically there is NOTHING TO FEAR. Once you fully awaken, you are awakened permanently.

LOL....look at this rivalry!!! I love it!!

They couldn't expose me if they tried, I know their own Book better than they do. All I gotta do is keep my knowledge to my self.

THIS^^^^ This is all I was saying. Religion is dying off anyway in the West because of its hypocrisy with its judgments. I don't disagree with any of the statements you made right here. I just wanted to see what it was like to go to a modern Christian Church. I might hang around for awhile and do some outreach with the homeless or something as well. Many Churches are safe havens for those who find themselves on the streets.

This is a competition? First of all if this was a debate....I would definitely win since I know how to win a debate lol. But its not a debate its a discussion.....second you said I want religion to be God....when did I make that argument? I'm so confused as to what is going on here....are you guys that full of fear? Spirituality and Religion are just expressions of the Absolute at the end of the day. The Absolute doesn't need Spirituality or Religion they are just vehicles no different than its creation to experience aspects of itself from a finite perspective. I don't want religion to be God, I want those in Spirituality to get off their high horse and stop thinking that Spirituality is some how superior to religion. Religion is NOT an accident. Again.....the ABSOLUTE CREATED RELIGION through its finite aspects, this means Infinite Intelligence in its innate wisdom created religion through its creation and your demonization is pure ignorance. After I went through my recent awakenings I was called to revisit the Church and now I see why. Some of you are wayyy to judgmental of the Religion and this is due to you not understanding that Religion is the training wheels of Spirituality. You can't just toss everyone into the deep end of the pool, some people need Religion to be where it is currently. I'm not saying you got to respect or even like Religion but it is a necessary component due to the developmental level of humanity at large. I was given information on why Spirituality is the number one most dangerous thing to Society. If Spirituality as presently constructed were to be released onto Society we would have an epidemic of mental illness and it would cause a collapse of society because society currently does not understand Spirituality nor does it have safety measures in place to help keep those who wish to do it seriously. So currently Religion will be in place until Spirituality can find a way to become a guided practice with the full support of Society. Basically we would need to emulate India more and incorporate it more into our culture. Only you could find a research study on Christianity and Mysticism compared to Non-Christians.

I wish I understood what you meant. And I agree I think the church in ancient times used to be the way you surmise and the scared people took over. There are Christian Mystics who have taught in a way that could help people Awaken but I don't know any real Christian Mystics remaining today. Neville Goddard is one, but he actually makes one change. He says David is the Son not Jesus. It's a slightly different take. He says Jesus is asleep within and you are David and you have to rouse Jesus from his sleep within LOL.

Well Spoken that last part is what I was pointing at. The Ego is the absolute but a limited version surrounded by other limited versions and it does everything out of a need to survive. With proper development it can embrace the Absolute. This is why demonization of the ego is a trap because it makes you scared of your individual perspective, your own creation. Demonization of the ego is self-hatred. The ego is not evil, it wants to feel good, it wants to feel loved, it wants to feel protected, it wants to feel like its life has value. Awakening allows the ego to realize it is surrounded and protected by its TRUE SELF and thus can live without fear.

Going to church is fine as a means of experience. One of the points of Spirituality is to experience creation, part of creation is the many religions of the world. What is different than me tasting different types of foods, versus going to different types of religions? Also I am only saying going to church is fine if you are not ready for real Spirituality because Spirituality is about facing Death. Not everyone is ready to face death, to face insanity, to face their deepest fears, to find out that one aspect of reality....is that it is pure imagination, that it can be unreal in how it presents itself. Not everyone is ready for that. So I'm not moving the goal post, I'm being cognizant that its not for everyone. I wish it was....because its the most beautiful thing EVER!!! Also....a true Christian....does not need a Bible...they awaken that they are the WORD made flesh, so the Bible and church are not needed. But ask yourself.....did not Jesus visit the church?

Explain changing goal post on what exactly?

It's why I kept my mouth shut. There is no point in causing an uproar. But I do plan to visit some other religions and experience them since I never have before. But to stay on topic these scriptures will talk you out of the Christian Church. But not out of Christianity because true Christianity is to recognize yourself as Christ. https://biblehub.com/john/10-34.htm https://biblehub.com/psalms/82-6.htm https://biblehub.com/luke/17-21.htm Jesus is basically saying you cannot reach God realization unless you recognize yourself as the Christ. https://biblehub.com/john/14-6.htm But people thought that meant you had to take Jesus as your Lord and savior. NO!!! You take Jesus as an example to emulate, and through following his example you awaken to the Christ within you. This is why Jesus would call himself the Son of Man sometimes and the Son of God in other instances. The term Christ refers to a state of consciousness in which you are in direct communion with Oneness/Totality. Once you reach this state as a sober permanent state you have lived a life full of love so thoroughly that you are awakened to Heaven Within. God the Father is the Masculine expression of the Absolute, The Holy Spirit is the Feminine Aspect, and the Son part of the trinity is the human that has awakened and properly integrated both the Father and Holy Spirit within. This is what the Trinity teaching refers too.

I've interviewed someone in the past and he was open originally then he brought a Pastor and I got so annoyed by the Pastor I destroyed him using the Bible and he kept trying to find scripture to discredit what I was pointing too and I told him plainly, you are trying to use scripture to discredit what Jesus said plain and direct. I told him he was the same as those Pharisees and he felt like I wouldn't let him speak but every time he spoke about scripture he made stuff up. For example he said Revelation was Jesus's words, they aren't. Someone else wrote the book of Revelations I believe it was John that wrote that book. He literally tried to use the most vague symbolic most misunderstood book in the Bible to try to disprove Jesus saying that the devil tricked me into thinking that I was one with God. When I brought up that God is omnipresent and God is a totality so literally its actually impossible for humans to not be God because God is all that is....he said I was wrong and I started laughing. In retrospect I should have been more respectful, but I grew up in the Church and when I searched for the truth Leo's teachings lined up with Jesus's teachings like a hand in a glove. It's so obvious if you earnestly search. Like I mentioned before even his Infinity of God's awakening was mentioned by Jesus. Now with that said, they are earnestly searching from their vantage point but they have too much self-hatred and fear to go beyond.

Nah I know better than that, too much fear in them. The irony is they would treat me the way the Pharisees treated Jesus. That's the paradoxical nature of the story of Jesus. Once you understand what he was saying, if you tell his Church they will accuse you of blasphemy the same way Jesus was accused of blasphemy. They might accuse you of being possessed by a demon, which they also accused Jesus of. So its a funny story all around.

You repeated yourself.

I went as a tourist, I plan to visit a mosque and then maybe a budhist place. I'm like if I created everything might as well check it out. Once you awaken I think the point is to explore. Oh and if the person wants to escape the strangle hold of the Church we already pretty much pointed it out. If you study the story of Jesus adequately he points out that you are the same as him. Jesus basically is saying you are the Messiah, and that the Kingdom of God is within you. He says I come to fufill the law which is him pointing out that the law is pointing that the creator and the creation are ONE, that is what it means to be in the same image. So Jesus actually teaches true Spirituality its why I like him as a symbol. His teaching is simple and people complicate it out of fear. Hell even your Infinity of Gods awakening Jesus stated when he said "Ye are Gods."

Yeah I knew it, you guys just don't get it. Reality is both the same and also different. You are stuck on the sameness which is itself a limitation. Stop putting limitations on reality. When was the last time you gave a genuine apology and actually meant it? Better get on that.