Arthogaan

Thank you for such a detailed answer. Like really - Namaste I am maintaining that for most of the day. I would even say that it is my new default state after a shift I had 2 days ago. It is really obvious when I am walking or sitting or standing. But I am not sure what happens when I focus on some activity like checking my phone or reading something. Even writing these words I can hold the nondual visual field. But When I want to read something or I check my phone the focus collapses from panoramic to just the object of attention. And I am not sure how much separation is there when this collapsing happens. In a way there is just activity of reading happening without ideas of me doing it, but on the other hand when I come out of this reading activity there is a sense of "oh - i was not fully dissolved while reading". Any comment on that?

I love how we hijacked the Death-Thread with music.

We just like to party.

Tell me what you see In the afterlife Par-delà le ciel Par-delà le soleil In all there is to learn The sun is on our side And though you're on the run You will survive Expanded to the state of light The deepest corners of the world Gliding through the lowlands And swimming all the oceans Walking through the silence Already made it through the night There will be a new day Whenever the sun rises You're invisible You're in everything Tell me what you see Tell me what you see When you're everywhere When you're everywhere Tell me now Tell me now While you drift away from all the plagues of this world You're put out of misery, giant monster You won't have to face it again Every step of the way gets you higher All the voices trapped underneath the ground Let 'em all go in the sky Find the power lost underneath the ground Let it all blow in the sky All the voices trapped in my head Let 'em all scream in the night Find the power lost underneath the ground Let it all blow in the sky @Breakingthewall @Water by the River

This description of the 9th fetter by Frank Yang describes my experience of the last 2 days: """ 9th fetter is restlessness. Even after the Self/self is completely gone, there remains the debris of old conditions that are still operating, albeit mostly at the subconscious level now…manifesting themselves through very subtle beliefs, assumptions, and sensations that make you feel, in ways you can’t really point your fingers to, that things should somehow be different. And that there is something that you should be doing to course correct this misalignment. Unable to cling on to a self, these sensations from time to time “rise up” against the flow of life, thus making you believe that there exists versions of realities other than whatever is happening right now. You can still experience a little bit of suffering here. Although by this time your suffering level has been decreased by about 95 percent. """

Yeah, it's crazy how I used to skip through his posts but last couple of days I am seeing what he means and bookmarking him like crazy. Haha thanks brother

I know it's a difficult task but can you try desribing some of such very very subtle remnants?

Haha, I am more or less familiar with all the links provided (I am consuming Roger like crazy past two days) and still I am not sure if that comprehension non-experience is the 8th jhana or not. Jhanas don't resonate at this stage. I will carefully read your post on mahamudra, thanks. My practice lately was just trying to maintain do nothing/letting go of contractions for the whole day.

Holy shit man. This is Golden. I just read that in meditative state and it clicked. You beautifullly filled out the spots left by Roger and Massaro. Non-experiencial comprehension of infinity. Could you help me understand how that comprehension relates to 7, 8th and 9th Jhana?

Each name brings with it some insights, archetypes. I could say why call it reality if it's empty/imagined/holographic and infinitely inteligent (therefore good). "God" brings something profound to the party. "Dream" brings something cool too. Ultimately it's of course neither and all at the same time.

I saw you posting rammstein. I think you will love it, especially the lyrics:

From my current understanding this is exactly what Leo is saying. When Leo speaks about being God there is no center, no direction of attention, God is distributed imagination-stuff. Soup of blended existence. And Leo also points to "no choice" - he said that when you merge with this Infinity it's almost like you have no choice because you will be bound to do the most perfectly inteligent thing to imagine. He pointed to the same thing in Free will vs No free will video. The most important thing is that the sense of localized self must be gone.

Oh, yeah - with that I agree.

Consciousness. You can train yourself to realize that it does not fully shut off even in deep sleep. Because This is a dream. You just don't want to realize that upper case YOU ARE ETERNAL.

I fully agree and that's what I meant. I meant One thing happening. Like a smeared acrros everything wibbly wobbly POV. Not a location POV. Like in a VR game you have first person POV and then you become a witness kinda like 3rd person view and then you dissolve it and now the camera can go anywhere and kinda at once. But probably pov is a misleading word for that.

For me at my current stage (which may change) "others" are some archetypes of reality dressed up/orchestrated as a sets/bundles of sensations. Just like lower case self. For me it seems there is only This reality unfolding. Only One. Not many POVs, just THIS.

At night, when one dream ends and next begins - what remains? Once the first dream ends, all dreamed up matter with its essential elements are gone, and in the next dream they are dreamed up anew. What remains is Consciousness/Dreamer.

I didn't say you can't. I am just expressing my opinion that it's cringe to use it that often. I believe you that you think that. However again, it is my personal opinion that you are with "your indian guru friends" "your guru" "you spiritualist" and so on - so I just express my opinion I don't assume that. again I am just expressing my opinion about your communication. If you can't accept that then it's you who thinks that the world must conform to your personal tastes.

Agreed. You are not wrong. I just don't like your disrespectful tone with sentences like "your indian guru friends". Agreed and I could say the same to you. Yup. There's something sincere in that. I'm sure it will end in bromance eventually

Typical for non-spiritualists. Nothing. It's just cringe to see cringe everywhere. You are negative and feeling superior. You have the right to your opinions and negativity yes, and in the same way I have the right to not like you and point out your hypocrisy. Everything is okay.

I see that you are a fan of generalizing, feeling superior and of the word "cringe". That's a wholesome package.

@Breakingthewall @Water by the River Guys, I would appreciate your perspective on the following video. Dropping the idea of long life and gaining security was something that saved me many years of spiritual practice. I still took care of financials and all but that is important concept to uninstall, and you still can behave inteligently.

Yes, like a patient loving parent. Knowing when to push, when to wait, when it is time to rest.

This voice that is calling you is the most important voice in the Universe. Cherish it. Listen to it. Thats the fire that will free you. But be strategic. Devote yourself to that voice but in a smart way. Don't neglect the daily logistics. I believe in you.

This describes my latest experiences very well. Thanks.