Arthogaan

I am not sure if you want to agree or disagree with me, because what you wrote seems congruent with what I wrote.

If you (as God) want to imagine living in a body, you have to create suffering. Because without suffering the illusion of the body would be too easy to see through, and you would not survive few days. So suffering is something necessary for a good dream. Suffering is there out of Love.

What a beautiful post. @JuliusCaesar any updates on becoming a Powerful Being? Some crazy experiences? Please share your past two years in the context of this post and that intention.

All that you have written I agree with and again this is exactly what I get from Leo's Solipsism video. I think we are too little charitable to Leo.

To me it sounds exactly like what Leo is describing with Absolute Solipsism but with a bias against word "You"/"I". It points to the same way of seeing. You just misunderstand what Leo means by "I" and assume any ego left there imho. @Water by the River @Bazooka Jesus @Breakingthewall

Of course. I would probably add kriya yoga to that. For me weed is really difficult and usually does not show me that much about reality, more about my self and some remains of trauma and repressed emotions. Brother it would be really valuable for you and for the community on the forum for you to try the classic psychedelics and comment on them. Cheers.

@Osaid This is not an attack or anything I am just genuinely curious - why did you not explore psychedelics more? For me it is just so obvious that if I am interested in spirituality and exploring reality then if there are chemicals that change perception so much then it is really natural and obvious impulse for me to explore them to the fullest? Why you don't see it that way, why are you not curious?

I totally agree. I would argue then that Direct Experience of Absolute Solipsism in a state of no conceptualization is TRUTH. But the second you start to conceptualize/analize/put it into words you lose it's essence. But we still need to use pointers on a forum (well we do not really need to but not everyone has acces to 5-meo) and IMHO "You as consciousness is all that there is" is a better pointer than "There is no YOU". But that may be just a personal (hehe) preference.

Yes, I agree. For yourself yes, but when communicating and discussing on a forum then it really is a poor tool.

Well said.

This is good stuff, thank you @Breakingthewall. I somewhat agree, but then still... it's like in this radically consciouss state where as you write: "outside the conceptual mind there is only pure existence, there is no you, no others, no god, no nothing, there is the infinite now existing". I agree, but there is still this PURE EXISTENCE, which is made out of PURE EGOLESS I AM. Pure Awareness, Pure Imagination/ Pure Mind. And in that state there is only one PURE EXISTENCE, not two, not 8billion. THERE IS ONLY ONE I AM. Again using analogy of the dream. In reality there is no my dream character and no other dream characters. But the dream is still Solipsistic as there is only ONE MIND dreaming it. Absolute Solipsism does not claim there is only one character inside the dream. It claims that there is ONLY ONE MIND dreaming the dream and that you are THE MIND and not the character inside. @Leo Gura @Bazooka Jesus @Breakingthewall: Saying that "YOU ARE THE ONLY THING EXISTING" has it's risk that someone will think that their dream character is the only thing existing which would not be true. Because from the point of view of the dream character there are other minds. (Like @Razard86 described, when you imagine that it is true) And another approach is saying that there is no "YOU" in this PURE EXISTENCE state. But it has the risk of not dissolving the idea of objective reality and other EXISTENCEs/MINDS outside of THIS PURE EXISTENCE. So using words to describe this bring certain conceptual misconception risks. And I genuinely believe that we all try to describe the same PURE EXISTENCE. But the language is just so poor.

@Breakingthewall @Bazooka Jesus This is good discussion. Before responding I want to start by stating that all what I am writing is backed by direct experience from my 5-meo and LSD trips and it is not all intelectual altough I am still not sure of it. I did not reach a state of which Leo speaks about that "maybe it is possible to Absolutely know that other minds can't exist". I still have my doubts which is why those discussions are so interesting to me. Yes that makes sense to every possible concept that is NOT ABSOLUTE. But if we want to describe the SUBSTRATUM then it does not. Because Reality is made out of Something/Nothing (depending on how you look at it) and the substance of this Something/Nothing is precisely Awareness/I AM-ness. Yes, using any word does not do it justice beacuse if it is Absolute then language loses it's meaning, but that is only language's weakness. But the fact remains that this DREAM is somehow constructed. And the substance of it is Emptyness/Light/I AM-ness. I geniuinely believe that we are trying to point to the same thing but you look at the emptyness/formless aspect of this thing and you try to point to it by using ->> " ". But I try to point it by using the concept "I AM-ness" which is also a bad word but it gets you the feeling of the nature of this SUBSTRATUM. The is no "me" in this egoless "I AM-ness" but still I AM/Awareness is what reality is.

Same here. Vegan for 2 years then back to meat. I would say the same about meditation but I am not sure and it may be placebo. But on the other hand I felt it easier to exercise. It is like meat is this archetype of barbarian warrior hunter, that makes my body stronger in the raw sense, but weaker in the light/spiritual sense. But that may not be true it is just my intuition.

Hmm. I totally do not see why you would say that. I can exist, even if there is only I (just like God, Truth, Reality - all identical to each other), which is precisely the case. Just like in a dream at night, the only thing that exists is You/Mind that is generating the dream and characters inside and also body and ego. But "I" is the mind which is all there is. It seems like you are playing a semantic game that the word "I" only makes sense when it is in reference to something that is not "I". And okay then I understand your point. But it is just that awareness is this feeling of "I AM". It is the best word for it imho even if it kind of loses formal meaning because of lack of reference. But such is a nature of language and using it to describe anything Ultimate/Absolute. I would argue it is as stupid as saying "Reality/Truth cannot exists because in order for reality to exist there must by definition be something other than Reality/Truth". Which obviously is not the case. Reality and Truth by definition must exist, and just in the same way "I AM" must exist because it is always obviously here. Awareness.

I am just speculating because in all honesty didn't read the article, but just because there is no animal suffering happening in our POV doesn't necesarrily mean that there is no karma. I personaly have no stance on this issue, and ever since glimpsing Solipsism I actually started eating more meat, BUT just as Leo emphasized that there are still consequences within the dream, maybe he is pointing to the same relative issue. Just like being mean to people can have consequences on your reality, even though they do not really suffer, so can eating meat. Vegans usually do not equate suffering of intelligent animals such as cows (which clearly show emotion) to suffering of plants and bacteria, which seems reasonable to me. And even if we wanted to minimize exploitation of plants, we should stop eating meat, because most of plants are used as food for animals to later kill, which is inneficient conversion rate.

How so?

Mushrooms remind me of being an organic machine. Biological wise monkey. Close to nature and to the joy of Existence. The joy that is there inside every particle. They remind me to just have fun, that reality is a carnival, that it is all a joke. That you should allow yourself to be cute and weird. And as Leo said they feel trickster and funny and weird. LSD reminds me that I am pure Consciousness, that I it is possible to feel into genius levels of intelligence because we are connected to the Genius-Force of God. It reminds my that is all one big soup, one Oneness. It is the purest experience for me. Pure Lucidity.

You are right. Sorry for that. I was a little bit triggered. But also I would say we are speaking at the level where words get really wonky and most of the claims at that level are becoming un-counter-able. Okay. I believe the last sentence is actually pointing to the same thing as when Leo says in context of Absolute Solipsism that "Your POV is absolute, whatever happens in your Consciousness is absolute". Also You could replace the word Enlightenment with a word LOVE in the last sentence, and it would become a very lovely sentence then with which Leo would agree (I think). Leo is just biased against word Enlightenment because it stirs up some misconceptions in people.

@Osaid @Inliytened1 @Leo Gura @Loveeee Love is not a property of Consciousness or God. Consciousness is LOVE. God is LOVE. This is a crucial distinction. Just like Consciousness is Imagination. It is not like Consciousness has the ability to imagine. They are identical. Consciousness = Love = Imagination. But Buddhist/Ralston paradigm points to this empty kind of Consciousness, that only has the ability to imagine, or to feel love. These are totally two different paradigms. Awakening to the fact that Consciousness IS LOVE is filling all that buddhist-like Consciousness with sweet, psychedelic, visionary LOVE. So this is really misleading when Ralston dismisses Love as a feeling. It is just as misleading as when he would say, you know, Imagination is just some feeling, just some activity that Consciousness can do. NO! Consciousness and imagination are the same thing, you can't separate it like that because then you dismiss imagination as just some minor thing and you lose the DREAM-LIKE feature of reality. And when you dismiss LOVE you lose the LOVING feature of reality. So this clearly shows that psychedelics make you more open to these kind of realizations that Imagination, Love, God, Consciousness ARE IDENTICAL and this is exactly why it is so dangerous to NOT do psychedelics. Because you stay in this empty, raw paradigm where Consciousness is not identical to love. And this part: To be honest I found the above exchanges really sad. Like this gossipy dismissing vibe. Leo is literally fighting in this thread for you to not forget the most important part of reality which is LOVE. And he is doing it out of Love. And you without being able to counter any of his arguments just turn to shitting on the guy in this dismissing, snakey way on his own site that we can sit on for free. Which shows you exactly why Leo had to build this ridiculous amounts of arrogance for himself. Because of this endless gaslighting and dismissing of Love-feature of reality. This is the core message of Leo. That you are LOVE. So dismissing it is not something that Leo can afford to accept here.

Beautiful

I kinda have that phase too now, and I also am doing some travelling so maybe that is connected haha. You can always just read Leo posts here and on the blog and watch old deep content. I kinda do that.

In my experience it is definitely real, but the universe always manifests inteligently in such a way that our inner sceptic will want to always question the validity of it. Thats why strong faith is crucial.

I just wanted to say that in polish language 4-aco-dmt sounds like: 4-so-what-dmt

Jesus, Cleopatra, some ancient Aztec leader, Leo and Bentinho Massaro. That would be a great dinner.

I don't agree. I believe I was able to use alcohol and nicotine used in solitude coupled with meditation and intention to generate higher states.