A Fellow Lighter

What is Self is ultimately the Mind. Or, put exactly, life is only that activity which we call Mind. This is such an out-of-this-world experience for me, and yet, not really because it's the only experience I've ever had.. it's only that I'm just realising it now for what it is. It changes everything! What is conventionally considered as the mind is not Mind.. well it is, but that's just a really small aspect of it. The mind is not just the thoughts, or the intellect and imagination in our heads as we're led to believe. It's much more grandeur than that. It's literally the only world which you can know. The so-called physical or material world is one big elaborate hoax. Nothing about the world is material, nothing about the world is mechanical. In fact, if anything, reality is purely organic - everything behaves as though it is one grand organism. It's not connected - it's all one thing. Guys, the mind isn't even a cognitive thing, it's not that faculty of reason or comprehension. It is literally Everything, it is all that there is, and it is a mystical and spiritual thing. I don't feel like I have a mind of my own, I am the Mind alone. There are too many profundities to say from this yet too little logic to use in expressing these same profundities. However, I can say as much as this: it feels like I've just entered a state of lucid dreaming. This is it. This is the Self-realisation, for there is no other self to realise but the Mind. I'm yet to explore the spectrum of the potential of this Truth. For now I'm just watching the system of thinking doing all kinds of twists-and-turns. There is so much going on energetically and emotionally within me, right now. I feel like running. Yet, something is telling me to keep still and experience this energy in its raw form. Anyway, I just thought I should probably share this while it's still in my interest to do so. I might journal about this later. For now there is only this. My Self is Mind

What do you mean?

When your current state of consciousness returned, did it feel like it was you who left the mouse or feel like it was the mouse that left you?

You seem to have a well structured way of going about your chakra work. Could you share this method? Beginning with your first experience of your first chakra. Yes, the crown chakram will not be unblocked if you have not surrendered yourself to the One Creator. And you won't be able to surrender if you have not grasped the meaning/purpose of this experience called life.

Though this may be the case, it is certainly not the experience, thus, not one's level of consciousness. This is chaos, no? When truth does not match experience? What would you call this? I don't wish to control anything, I only wish to do what I do consciously instead of unconsciously. In exactly this context, there is only myself to tame.

Brilliant, you are uncovering the limitations and, ow thus, the dynamics of finitude. Yes.. in the exploration of the One Self, the Infinite One will, as a means of conclusive and thus progressive thought, assume finitude in order to reflect, or be conscious, of its thought own thoughts. This is what I term the crystallisation of the illusive bubble that is Consciousness, for consciousness, as you are to discover for yourself, is but a distortion/illusion of that which is absolutely One. The crystallisation of Consciousness results in the many, cross-dimensional, facets/focuses of.. the modalities, as you call them. However, this crystallisation, as the lessons of consciousness are learned, is to collapse within itself. This is the.. the quality, if we can call it that, of awakening. The focuses merge into one, thus realising a higher Self, so to say. The idea here is that the limitations in themselves are merely projections of Free Will in what one supposedly can and cannot do, be and cannot be, and likewise with every other conceivable polarity. These are mere manifestations of the direction/route which one is willing to take in the learning of the One Self. And yes, they can be dissolved.

This ? answers this ? Your considerations are most careful, fam. I commend you on this thoughtful endeavour. Keep going.

Although I understand exactly what you mean here, it is, as a fellow lighter, my duty/honour to firmly remind you that there is, in truth, no actual running away from your absolute self. Every journey is but a route and reroute towards, inward, your One Self that is absolutely transcendental. I, for one, have caught a glimpse of solipsism, in fact, it was quite a vivid experience, and might I add, the vividest experience in all of my other experiences combined, which I can describe only as that moment of utmost clarity. I awoke to the One Self. But in all honesty, I simply wasn't ready, or perhaps, not willing to let that truth.. this truth which is already here and now.. let it shine so bright, so to speak. I minimised that brightness into something more comprehendible, more receivable, which is what I currently imagine, what you currently imagine, to be what is here and now in your 3rd dimensional vibration. However, to say that one imagines, whatever s/he imagines, simply out of fear.. is to negate greatly the force of Creation which, I've learned, to be Free Will. It is best to always keep in mind the one motive of Creation when considering the aspects of the limited self that is our human consciousness, that motive being the enlightenment of the One Self - learning what it means to be existence itself. In the enlightenment of the One Self, our level/dimension of consciousness is the lesson, and Free Will the teacher, for there is no other mode of learning than the making of the Choice.

That is precisely correct, this is what Mind is, see? To mind is to bring something into your consciousness/awareness, for what is matter other than that which occupies the infinite space of Mind. In the exploration of the One Self, Mind is our Work. To mind or not to mind - that is the true question. Look around, explore your view for a bit, notice all the objects, touch whatever you touch, feel whatever you feel. Then notice that all matter is literally but Mind: matter is the actual viewing of the scenery, the exploration of sceneries, matter is the touching and feeling of anything. There is no matter without the Mind. It is a duality, consciousness is both Mind and Matter. In fact, it is one and the same thing, for one's environment is literally one's Mind. The experience is the Work which is Mind/Matter duality. You may come to postulate any being that you wish, this is absolutely fine, for it is for you and only for you to device the tools which you'll use to further your awakening. See, my mind, the Creator is not I, in the sense that I am a person. In my mind, the Creator is unison, the singular flow of enlightenment which constitutes of those beings which I call, so honourably, Lighters of the One Infinite Self. For their/our Work, whether aware of it or not, is the performance of Light-Work - persons are something like the conductors of Truth, the cords and threads of the Creator which is not a person.. but unison. See? The unison is what orchestrates being in this context. But remember just this, that it is merely all context in your exploration and navigation of Self. There is no finally, so to speak, here. You, the One Self, are thee finally, and i, in context, am only one Lighter in your enlightenment of the One Self.

Yes... The self/existence is a mystery, the whole point of Creation/Thought is the eternal exploration of what it means to exist/to be the self. Hence, fundamentally, life is enlightenment, the present moment is enlightenment, true enlightenment has no beginning nor and end, it is eternal. Hence, by the end of this Creation, upon your Awakening into 4th dimensional existence, you would have learnt something about what it means to be the Self. In fact, if you will it, the lesson could be grasped at this very moment, for the lesson is the moment. You could right now grasp that Love is what it means to be the Self, but you would have to truly learn this in order to realise your highest (truest) Self. However, you are also correct in feeling that You are an eternal mystery, for what you fundamentally are is absolutely transcendental, meaning there is no end to your exploration of self, no end to enlightenment. Although, awakening to this will also be an ascension, one into 5th dimensional existence which is the vibration of Light. Thus, the eternal mystery is also a distortion/imagination for it is a paradox. It will soon then dawn on you that there is a level of awakening that is much higher than the eternal mystery that you, upon that level of existence, will grow bored and soon, if not awakening, tortured by the eternal mystery. You will soon seek to transcend the 5th dimensional existence which is the vibration of enlightenment, into the 6th dimensional existence which is the vibration of Free Will. Here you will awaken to Wisdom that the Self is ultimately what you are willing to be.

Yep, that's exactly where I'm at, fam. In my case, everything seems to be all Mind, nothing in the material sense, just pure Mind with some exceptions upon analysis. Every moment is fundamentally the Mind in motion. And what Mind is.. is actually deeper then what I can say here. The takeaway is, though, that Mind is what brings things into existence, and this is an immediate activity, not at all a process. This is self-realisation, fam. The realisation that what you are is the experience itself, the Mind itself. You are Consciousness, meaning you are both the Creator and Creation, you are duality - both sides of One. Exactly.. the deeper parts of the Mind are guiding the Creation. Upon analysis, it can easily be recognised that what we call happiness is substantially intuition. One is guided by the subconscious Mind which is intuition. You, in some point in your life, before entering into mysticism, made a choice in your life that the ordinary, day-to-day common, life was no longer enough for you. Something deep within you told you "No, you can't carry on like this." Because that's not what you wanted. So what is happiness, really? When all is Mind, as we experience it, intuition seems to over-shadow Mind, as something more deeper. If the Mind can be grasped as the reflector of self upon itself, then what does intuition, which is also part of Mind, reflect? Could it be one's very own Will? Food for thought, fam. Yes.. this is the reflection of Creator upon Creation. This is how you explore your self to your ultimate Truth. At some point, you will outgrow this current image of your self that is your so-called "human body" for one that is seemingly more transcendental, which I've learned shall be one more dimension upon this one, 4th dimensional existence instead of a 3rd dimensional one. Realising something more transcendental seems to be our orientation as Creator. Hence, the common life you once lived had started to bore you and torture you, it was the reflection of Mind of your unwillingness to "go with the flow" and rise above that current we call the social norm.

There is, fundamentally, experience. Experience may be recognised as a time/space continuum: time being the ever unfolding present; space being the difference between one moment and the next or the previous. Why time/space continuum, and not space/time continuum? I made the time/space distinction due to my unshaken awareness in the illusory nature of space. There is no actual distance in space, the only thing that separates one's current location to the next or previous location is the distance in time. Everything is always just a moment ahead or a moment past - just as I am a moment away from finishing this text, I am two moments away from reading another, and three moments away from getting up to have supper or breakfast or whatever. It doesn't matter where you are now, the only thing that matters is how many moments away are you from your next location. Thus, traveling through space is actually traveling through time. Hence, time/space continuum. I had to make this distinction as the orthodox one hindered me greatly in comprehending a crucial role of Mind. Time/Space Continuum There is, fundamentally, experience. The recognition of this continuum comes from the ability to differentiate one moment from another. Without this ability, experience would seem quite still. It is then recognised that the present is unfolding due to a certain stillness within, and from this stillness, the experience of a changing environment. However, there is no definition within the moments by their own - where one begins and another ends - instead, it is a subtle, yet profound, transition of experiential patterns. This is what is practically being differentiated, as far as the term moment-to-moment goes, the patterns of experience. A moment, on its own, is simply a cognition - a framework of time/space in the space/time dilation performed by the mind. A moment is never the actual present which is transfiguratively (beyond figure) in continuum. How the mind is able to frame a moment in time/space then use these frameworks to differentiate between what is past and what is present.. is the question. The mind, where the present is in continuum, is able to perform a space/time dilation by woven timeframes of congruent patterns, like puzzle pieces. Space/Time Dilation A space/time dilation is not the experience that is the time/space continuum, though it is constituent of it. Space is mental construct, it is essentially time in retrospect. A dilation can be equated to Memory, for rather than unfolding, it is already unfolded. The dilation constitutes of timeframes as pictured by the mind. In this respect the experience is somewhat frozen, and in from this frozen lense there is recognition of what is past and what is present as well as, possibly, what is to come. This is one overall performance of the mind. Investigation: How does the time/space continuum, which is assumed to be out of the mind's control, unlike the space/time dilation, how does the continuum know, on its own, how to unfold? What is the nature of this continuum? Is it the law of cause-and-effect as proposed by traditional science? Is it Entropy? Is it Murphy's Law? In the grand scheme of things, what could be the determining principle of the seemingly mindless, natural, congruency of experiential patterns? Let me rephrase this question. How do the subatomic particles know how to form the atoms? And how do the atoms know how to form the molecules? And those into bigger structures, and bigger and bigger? How does time determine its subsequent patterns? Does it determine subsequence? What is subsequence, really? In holding an object in the air then suddenly letting go of it, the object falling would be that subsequent event. But if, as I have claimed, there is no real space in “physicality”, only time, then what determines the falling of the object? There is, fundamentally, Experience. It is this experience which I've chosen to investigate in my science of consciousness by presenting arguments as well as alternate theories to the common phenomena of reality. My main idea, here, is that it is quite difficult if not impossible to explain something without the inclusion of what is Mind. Space and time have been explained without the inclusion of Mind for decades and centuries. I want to investigate this as scientifically as I can, for time and space plays a magnificent role in what I call the first order of Consciousness - that being Experience.

In this journal my work is purely based on the science of consciousness: studying the patterns of consciousness as I experience them, and utilising whatever I uncover or discover into a technology. The relative motive behind this is endeavour is to keep myself grounded and not escape into deluded psychological states of metaphysical abstraction. Thus, as a rule, with every awakening there must equally be work consonant with the new found awareness. This is only fair and rational. Just as a child will speak as a sign of awakening to speech patterns, so should I do work congruent with the patterns of consciousness as I learn them. The overall motive behind this is attaining real awakening - going from unconsciously creating to consciously creating. Thus minimising the darkness that is the chaotic predicament of human existence in order to live in the light. What I set out to do is not an easy task but very much a necessary one. I don't know why I am experiencing this reality with its specific patterns, I'm not sure what the meaning of it is, but I now know that I cannot die before I've grasped the lessons of this world. Spirituality is not an escape from reality as most of us have treated it, it is, on the contrary, the embrace of the real.

Okay.. but what good would that do me? Surrendering instead of taming? The matter is not about evil as much as it is about chaos. I don't perceive evil, I perceive the chaos that emerges from not living life consciously. This also resonates with me, perfectly. This I will apply as you have elaborated so concisely for me. I'll be sure to do this.

This resonates completely with me. However, I think you misperceived what I meant when I said “you/me”. I am actually refering to the absolute Love, and not the relative vehicles that are us, separately. Perhaps that part is on me for not being more concise. Thanks for responding as elegantly, though. It is splendid to that there are other persons who are aware of the same thing as me. The Devine Plan as you so enthusiastically refer to it.

This resonates well with me, as this is my current phase in my spiritual growth - learning to tame the Will, learning to do what I do consciously instead of unconsciously. Thanks for this appropriate response.

I don't pretend to know anything I don't know, nor do I pretend to be complete in my enlightenment of self. So where there is an opportunity to learn, I ask. And where there is an opportunity to teach, I answer. These are the only two patterns of love in the most absolute of senses - the teach/learn and learn/teach patterns. This is what I've awakened to, this is what I mean by infinite knowledge. Love is the eternal learning and teaching of Self by self/selves, the complete enlightenment of what it means to be the One Self. And imagination is the only means of accomplishing this Activity called Love. Now I ask, is there a grounds to this eternal phenomenon, is the reason to this existence we call Love? The simple answer to this is the I Am what I Am. But this is no reason, this is no logic, this is no grounds. This is simply a recognition of Self by self. Hence I say, we/you/I are absolutely transcendental, and the only law or principle which gives shape to so-called reality, is the principle of Free Will, that is - one can only ever know what one is willing to know, and be what one is willing to be, and do what one is willing to do. Will is the absolute truth. Freedom of Will is what we are talking about when we say Love. However, this is not a why, it is only Truth without contrast, without question. With that being said, I'll ask once more. What is it that we awaken to other than one's own Will?

Yes. I know we are love, and I am also aware of what it means to be love. I've had this awakening. However, though I've realised love a thousand times, and continue to do so, I still find this existence as mysterious as it were before I began consciousness work. Though I am aware of what all this is, I am equally unaware of what This is. The most perplexing paradox ever. Why you/I, Love, exist.. other than the simple response that I just do, which of course is not an answer, there is simply no grounds to this.. to us. Which leads me to think that perhaps the highest, most fundamental, knowledge there is.. is Knowledge itself - that it doesn't matter what you know, or, rather, we can only know what we're willing to know, that whatever one imagines oneself to be.. that is what one ultimately is. It is as though all knowledge is knowledge of the same thing which is basically nothing.. or the Knowledge itself - knowing that you're capable of knowing but can know nothing.. less you imagine something. So yeah, you/I are Love. But is there a why? It seems not. It seems that love is the equivalent to anything else. And so, although you know you are love, it is though you know the same thing as you did last time, just on a different lense. Thus, the only you that is constant upon every imagination is the you that knows.. the knowledge itself. Am I love, or am I infinite knowledge? Is love = infinite knowledge? If there is no why to existence, then can there even be an existence? The existence of I/you is absolutely transcendental. It is beyond reason and fathom, beyond anything, really. And with that being said, what is it that we truly awaken to? Nothing (other than the spirit that fuels one's life) I know nothing different than any one else in the world, what I know serves no value other than that this is the lense that I prefer, until I imagine something different. Does this make sense to you?

If I ask you why, will you tell me, “Because I'm love.”

Why?

Why do you exist?

Hey guys... It's been a while since I made a thread. Before I delve into this topic I want to be as transparent as I can regarding the motive behind the making of this thread. Some of you will understand, most of you won't. Don't sweat it I am actually going through a lot right now. And I wish there was somebody I knew who is experienced and mastered what I'm currently going through who I could talk to. For those of you who have integrated chakras in your spiritual practices, the context of my issue is the following: I've awakened to the emotional dimension of my Consciousness. And this new found awareness is really kicking me in the gut and dragging me around. Anyway, to speak on the topic. So it is highly held by mass society that man is a rational creature - that is our established “baseline”. You only need to look around to notice this established social belief/ideology in order to get my point. Look at the environment of any artificial setting such as our schools, our offices, our homes, our political and commercial scenery. Everything is set in accordance to the idea that under normal circumstances a man is reason-oriented being and can be reasoned with. Do you see it? You have to really look and look closely to see it because it is so there that you might even mistake it for something so natural that it's insignificant. Look at how you'd approach other people, then look at how you'd approach.. say your pet. Look at how you would approach yourself - that is the formulation of your self-image. It really doesn't take long to notice as this is not a matter of discernment but rather of pure observation. This myth is so popular, so idealistic that it's become confused for actually rather than being seen as a fabrication. At this point, even if we were to reconsider the idea of rationality, I don't think humans would be the most rational species. An entire flank of animals would outrank us as more rational. Don't believe me? Just take a look at how animals choose their mates and how we do it. Take a look at how animals decide the right time to have sex and how we do it. Just start comparing the most random of things like when and why animals kill and why we kill. Look at why animals go to war and why we go to war. Look at their social structures, their family structures - who has which role in the family and how well everyone executes their roles. All you have to do is compare. Compare an ant colony with any human one and tell me which one is more sophisticatedly organised. Let's face it. Even if we were to reconsider this idea of rationality we humans would sure fall short to it. And some of you will excuse these flaws for complexity or some bullshit like that. Like are you kidding me? If other species' biology isn't as complex as ours than ours then I don't know what the hell is. A leaf is more complex than hand. It doesn't take much to understand why and how a hand is structured the way it's structured, it's utility can be easily figured out by a toddler. But a leaf on the other hand... Yeah, we are about as complex as anything else. So that's really no excuse. We are very good at pretending, that's for sure. No other species comes close to matching our pretentiousness, not even the slickest of camouflaging preys and predators. We flat outrank them in that criterion. But rational? I'm sorry I just don't see. Sure we are very cognitively enabled hence all the technology that we have developed. But rational??? Pattern recognition and Math is not an indicator of rationality anymore than it is a language. Your ability to count and account for things says nothing of your ability to be rational. Only your ability to be self-organised does. We are too self-destructive to even begin to view ourselves as self-organised. No. I've personally interacted with my fair share of humans, including myself, to know for certain that we are not rational. That's a myth. Which begs the question: If not rational then what are we? What exactly is involved in our decision-making process? How do we even find ourselves having to make decisions in the first place? And that, friends, is what I've woken up to. That is what I'm having trouble stomaching and has left me in the state of perpetual free-fall so to speak. That is why I wish there was somebody who understands that I could talk to about it because I'm really having trouble finding a way to integrate this in my spirituality, in my life to be less blunt. Maybe I can do nothing with it other than just remain aware. It's very uneasing but maybe I'll just get used to it. This awareness of a force that you see no chance and no point in trying to resist. So yeah.. that's been what's been on my mind and what's led me to create this thread. There's quite a lot that I've chosen to leave out, regarding spirituality, but there would be no point in mentioning it unless someone understands what I've already stated. Those of you who are too rooted in your identity won't. The gravity of your psyches won't let you as viability is your main concern at the moment - and not possibility, not really. But that's okay. Just writing this and expressing myself makes me feel more grounded, even if it's not on the illusion of rationality but just a sense of clarity I guess. For those who you who really don't understand and might need a clue to what I'm talking about. Basically, waking up to your emotional nature is waking up to the designation and employment of karmic energy by your Consciousness and for the sake of completeness. I'm telling you that you're not sometimes emotional but are, in fact, always emotional. That you have understood very little of your emotional dimension, much less than what society and your education has led you to believe. Where there is motive there is emotion - try to think of your emotional nature like that and you will begin to get it. And this is just one out of seven dimensions which all have energy centres that are, today, being carelessly referred to as chakras. ? So so much more to understand about spirituality. Yet so little intention to actually try to learn.

I don't think there's one. I'm using my email to get notifications from this site.

At first I didn't get the title of your post until I read your post then looked at your title again and finally got it. I'm not sure if this is an example of inverse mental engineering but I want to say I get your point and that I have that a lot. Here's another example. So as a kid, and even still today, I would always inverse what I perceive to be the left side of an object.. and the right side of an object. It's not that I can't tell my left arm from my right arm and vice versa. No.. I am fully aware that I am right handed and that I type or write with my right arm. It's only that when it comes to understanding the sides of an external object, I always inverse the two - the right side becomes the left and the left becomes the right. That's how it makes sense for me. That's just a simple one of the plenty inverse instances that take place in my life. I also do the that reading from the bottom up thing that you mentioned.. I do that especially when I don't understand what topic the opening verses are meant to introduce, then I'd have to read the conclusion in order to understand the idea behind the text of the body and introduction. There are just plenty of examples. One of my downfalls in the world of academia, I'm afraid. I'm too critical to learn anything without immediate practice. Unfortunately I don't have any information on this as well. Never bothered asking, even. Just saw that people are different, and this time the difference is from my side. But thanks for bringing this up. At least now I know I'm not alone

Hi @NoSelfSelf , interesting username by the way. The question of identity is vastly encompassing.. meaning it has to do with a lot in one's life.. things like ethics, morals and ambitions. So although you're saying that you are left with not a very developed identity, I really find that hard to believe unless you a child as young as a toddler. Here's the thing, when it comes to identity your mind cannot take anything else more seriously. A person with no identity will even refrain from speaking much.. just until s/he has a sense of who s/he is. All this simply because one's identity speaks to what one is willing to align oneself with in life. It's a matter of self recognition. How do you identify yourself in the world, among other people and other things? You asked what the components of an identity structure is. It's really just one. People are more willing to identify themselves according to their aspirations in life - the identity is more of a title they'd like to earn rather than a name to be referred by. People rarely identify themselves with a past, their egos are always future orientated. Take your username for example. It already describes the kind of stuff you're into, the model of yourself that you're aspiring towards. Although others may not understand it, this is hardly the point. It's not for others to understand, but only for you and you alone. Your connection with what you've identified yourself with is rather a personal one and intimate one. So if I was you, I wouldn't worry as much as how I were to present myself to the public than I would about how to develop and self-actualise. So your concern, it would seem, isn't really about your identity as much as it would be about the quality of your identity. When the quality of our compass (the identity) suddenly seems lacking and grey, we tend to ask questions such as yours in attempt to give it colour as means to making the compass a little bit more clearer - more colourful and concise. So @NoSelfSelf trust me when I tell you that you do, in fact, have a developed identity. And what you're really asking.. is how to develop it even more.. how to self-actualise. Start from your heart, start with what resonates with you. Although, I can assure you, this wouldn't be the beginning of anything other than maybe your self confidence. Trust yourself a little more and you will feel like you've known who you are for the longest of time ?