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@Danka They were working so hard that their life was passing them by. It's the trap of success, the addiction to doing instead of being, sleep walking through life, they'd even come home and get sucked into their TV, pigging out for hours on end on their couch after a long days work. How can you make time to just sit and be conscious when you're in a constant state of progress and doing. You miss out on a lot, this is why consciousness is so damn important.

@hinawashi The Argo is still the Argo The ship is only separated by our perceptions. I mean, yeah, the original components have changed, but, consider the boundaries we create in an ultimately unified universe, there's only a boundary there because we created it. Once the ship started to restore it's "original" or "warn out" pieces that's when we decided (or created the boundary) that it was no longer the ship, and we forgot that the entire universe is a unity. The new pieces are the old pieces. they were never separate from each other. So the ship still remains as it's original identity just newer and more robust From this perspective you could say that the transformation was already there or already occurring or already occurred. It just depends on how you look at it, and whatever you decide on is mostly likely "where" or "when" it will be.

Good stuff! But I'm curious, what is your first biggest reason(s) one fails at life? Looking forward to hear more.

Basic journal entries definitely can seem ignorant or even arrogant over time, Those types of journals are less important compared to the most important journal entries you will make which are the --> how to's, the deepest insights you have, deepest understandings, keeping yourself on track, reminders, techniques, mindsets, big picture concepts (including the big picture of self actualization itself), your motivations and visions, strategies, values etc. which I keep in my self actualization journal. there are some journal entries I make that don't amount to anything and that's just how it ends up being but it won't always be that way. The process of self actualization or just personal growth is a recursive process, it's always changing and morphing, and that's the way it will always be on this journey. And it's your job to navigate through it. “We are like sailors who are on the open sea, and we must construct our ship, but are never able to start a fresh from the bottom. Where a beam is taken away a new one must be put in place at once, and for the rest of the ship is used as support. In this way by using the old beams, and the driftwood the ship can be shaped entirely a new, but only by gradual reconstruction. ” This is what growth entails, so it's time to develop a taste for it.

Care to post what was being said?

Possible Nihilism? I really think spending time sitting down and journaling and questioning this feeling would be a really good idea.

@Visitor Yep that's it. It's like watching a dog morph into a cat, except you don't see it morph. You just all of a sudden see it as a cat. Completely spontaneous.

I have these two skits that make clear distinctions of: stuck positions, staying stuck in concepts or even thoughts, talking to someone with awareness and talking to someone without awareness, the importance of making tons of distinctions and perspectives and how the distinctions you make shape the world you see. This will help show you where awareness happens, from stepping out of the finite into the infinite and getting a grasp on the holistic perspective or stepping out of Costello's perspective (the guy on the left). Who’s on first? It’s easier to say “Who’s” on first. One could make that distinction easier. Consider “who” to be the absolute --the thing that is presented as a finite thing (when I say finite I mean the label that shows up in your mind or even external reality.) and the separate distinction “” to be the awareness or even infinity ( again, just labels). In this case you could say that this “” is another distinction, which it is, but this is where the mistake shows up. Cause how do we describe this “”? Well, we can call them quotation marks, creating another distinction or punctuation marks, yet another distinction and we can keep doing this, make more and more “accurate” distinctions etc. But instead of going in that direction, let’s bring it back to it’s form “”. So we have these quotation marks. We could boil it down to deeper definitions and continue down that road, but that would be missing the meta awareness here, if we did this we would be Costello in this case ( the guy on the left), So what is this “”? Well, it can’t actually be described. BY DEFINITION (or absolutely,finitely, descriptively, visibly) Any descriptions of it MAKES it into a finite thing, which it itself is not. It’s the difference in you opening your eyes and seeing the world and then closing them and seeing nothing (I’m not even talking about blackness or even the label “nothing”) it’s so NOT A THING it’s completely spontaneous. And this “making” is for a different discussion. "There is no you. you are everything." This quote could give one leverage to step out of their position into a more holistic position. But of course, it's still a position, and I think continuing doing this process could really help one break free from their finite nature. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this! If you didn't understand anything well hopefully you enjoyed the videos haha

What do I call this process of humbling myself and making the effort to understand? Been thinking about this and can't really find the word for it. A little backstory is lately the thing I've come to realize more and more is that the more I understand, the more I realize how much I don't know, and it's been becoming slightly frustrating to me, feels like I'm always taking 5 steps backwards the more I dive, but of course, I'm on top of it and pushing through it, just looking for a good word or concept for this. Thanks.

Not to sound too harsh but this post just sounds like a guy who gave up trying to have sex a long time ago and he's doing everything he can to maintain his identity from this idea of "sex" and making it out to be some disturbing act. You haven't even tried it. And even if you did try.. With your current attitude towards it there's no way in hell you could allow yourself to enjoy it because it's already disgusting in your eyes. Maybe one day you can open yourself up to it though.

@SOUL truthfully I enjoy being meticulous and rigorous about articulating my perceptions in an accurate and cohesive way but it was slowly turning toxic, I'll still continue to be that way but more conscious and allowing myself to be in a state of not knowing.

Leo's video on confusion

@Bebop@SOUL@Arman@Loreena Update: Just watched the video @TJ Reeves, massive revelation, illusion of clarity, false sense of clarity, what a perfect description for this feeling. I actually am aware of my “need to know” habit in this entire post including my conclusions about this insight all together, Thanks guys!

@TJ Reeves Contemplating contemplation. Now we're talking

@TJ Reeves Nah that's not it either, although contemplation is definitely a component. It feels more like a diligent regress, that's the best way I can describe it, in fact I'll probably just go with that until I stumble across something

@Bebop nah that's not it @SOUL No, not really, but it would help make my distinctions more refined and more proportionate

There's no need for admission of control at all. What is IS and there doesn't need to be an ego telling itself what IS and what is not, although it likes to. This is not the answer either, and neither will anyone else's whoever decides to comment. Your avoidance of "kosher bs theory" assumes there's true theory or even "more true" theory and there isn't. There is in the sense of me maybe triggering you into waking the fuck up but that's basically it, thats really all anyone can ever do for you. In fact, thats all anyone is doing on this forum, we're all just trying to wake each other up, at least when it comes to these topics.

@Dodo @cetus56 there's really no need to inflate what's being said here and jump to a bunch of conclusion, he's only pointing at the extreme guess work that goes into creating an "accurate" perception of reality with the illusory nature of making predictions based on basically nothing, meaning, the issue of looking in on ourselves, not just trying to create an accurate perception in the body but in the mind or consciousness. Consciousness is trying to look at itself, and since it can't, instead of looking at what is actually there, as biological entities we've become more concerned about if its running well or not, because for all we know, the biological systems are keeping us conscious and we want to stay alive and conscious right?

This is the most ego driven post I've ever seen. As though you couldn't leave without telling others they dont know shit and telling them they're too serious. Notice thats all your shit and not others shit.

definitely, but the real magic trick being played here is of our own existence, and that can be a very serious game we play with ourselves and others, people have massacred each other over that one.

This is a really good video, I love the distinction he makes between controlled hallucination vs uncontrolled hallucination and that when we agree about our hallucinations, we call that reality. "we predict ourselves into existence." That's true not knowing right there.

For me, here and now are one in the same. The only difference in the distinction one makes about it. In this sense you could say consciousness IS the WHOLE from which you view it, while at the same time its just a distinction. I love playing with the limits of rationality and communication.

I think this should be in meditation,consciousness etc

The ultimate lie/illusion --> fear! (Not to make "the ultimate" a definitve statement but you get the idea.)