Nilsi

However gratefully one may welcome the OBJECTIVE spirit--and who has not been sick to death of all subjectivity and its confounded IPSISIMOSITY!--in the end, however, one must learn caution even with regard to one's gratitude, and put a stop to the exaggeration with which the unselfing and depersonalizing of the spirit has recently been celebrated, as if it were the goal in itself, as if it were salvation and glorification--as is especially accustomed to happen in the pessimist school, which has also in its turn good reasons for paying the highest honours to "disinterested knowledge" The objective man, who no longer curses and scolds like the pessimist, the IDEAL man of learning in whom the scientific instinct blossoms forth fully after a thousand complete and partial failures, is assuredly one of the most costly instruments that exist, but his place is in the hand of one who is more powerful He is only an instrument, we may say, he is a MIRROR--he is no "purpose in himself" The objective man is in truth a mirror accustomed to prostration before everything that wants to be known, with such desires only as knowing or "reflecting" implies--he waits until something comes, and then expands himself sensitively, so that even the light footsteps and gliding-past of spiritual beings may not be lost on his surface and film Whatever "personality" he still possesses seems to him accidental, arbitrary, or still oftener, disturbing, so much has he come to regard himself as the passage and reflection of outside forms and events He calls up the recollection of "himself" with an effort, and not infrequently wrongly, he readily confounds himself with other persons, he makes mistakes with regard to his own needs, and here only is he unrefined and negligent Perhaps he is troubled about the health, or the pettiness and confined atmosphere of wife and friend, or the lack of companions and society--indeed, he sets himself to reflect on his suffering, but in vain! His thoughts already rove away to the MORE GENERAL case, and tomorrow he knows as little as he knew yesterday how to help himself He does not now take himself seriously and devote time to himself he is serene, NOT from lack of trouble, but from lack of capacity for grasping and dealing with HIS trouble The habitual complaisance with respect to all objects and experiences, the radiant and impartial hospitality with which he receives everything that comes his way, his habit of inconsiderate good-nature, of dangerous indifference as to Yea and Nay: alas! there are enough of cases in which he has to atone for these virtues of his!--and as man generally, he becomes far too easily the CAPUT MORTUUM of such virtues. Should one wish love or hatred from him--I mean love and hatred as God, woman, and animal understand them--he will do what he can, and furnish what he can. But one must not be surprised if it should not be much--if he should show himself just at this point to be false, fragile, questionable, and deteriorated. His love is constrained, his hatred is artificial, and rather UNN TOUR DE FORCE, a slight ostentation and exaggeration. He is only genuine so far as he can be objective; only in his serene totality is he still "nature" and "natural." His mirroring and eternally self-polishing soul no longer knows how to affirm, no longer how to deny; he does not command; neither does he destroy. "JE NE MEPRISE PRESQUE RIEN"-- he says, with Leibniz: let us not overlook nor undervalue the PRESQUE! Neither is he a model man; he does not go in advance of any one, nor after, either; he places himself generally too far off to have any reason for espousing the cause of either good or evil. If he has been so long confounded with the PHILOSOPHER, with the Caesarian trainer and dictator of civilization, he has had far too much honour, and what is more essential in him has been overlooked--he is an instrument, something of a slave, though certainly the sublimest sort of slave, but nothing in himself--PRESQUE RIEN! The objective man is an instrument, a costly, easily injured, easily tarnished measuring instrument and mirroring apparatus, which is to be taken care of and respected; but he is no goal, not outgoing nor upgoing, no complementary man in whom the REST of existence justifies itself, no termination-- and still less a commencement, an engendering, or primary cause, nothing hardy, powerful, self-centred, that wants to be master; but rather only a soft, inflated, delicate, movable potter's- form, that must wait for some kind of content and frame to "shape" itself thereto--for the most part a man without frame and content, a "selfless" man. Consequently, also, nothing for women, IN PARENTHESI. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This made me think. What's your take on this Leo? This seems to be a very deep existential trade off that Nietzsche is alluding to here and I'm not quite sure what to make of it or how to transcend it (which would again be more "selflessness"/"objectivity"). How do you reconcile awakening with being a philosopher is my question i guess. I'm not quite sure just being God satisfies this itch because I'm still planning on continuing in this dream so what the hell am I supposed to do here if I even transcend philosophy?

I think you are right

The way I see it is there is an axis of depth and of self-recognition to consciousness and when you crank that up, you approach complete indistinctness. At a certain point you should be able to sculpt yourself into a werewolf experiencing itself as enlightened (if that's what you wish to do lol). I guess my question is how can such unbiased, indistinct consciousness decide on what to become (I guess it becomes everything to avoid this)? So the only plausible reason I'm in this body right now is Love, no?

I was just trying to have a genuine inquiry, which I think that should be rooted in direct experience and your multiple life's talk seemed kind of far fetched to me. But I get lost in my own bullshit as well so I'm not trying to put myself above you. I also notice that having a dialogue is kind of useless and can not really lead anywhere. I was just trying to share some Insights but I notice now that it's just projection (although it kind of helps to just spell these things out and get some feedback on it sometimes). It's actually just a power game. I could claim whatever and as long as I am charismatic and determined enough I could convince you to believe me. So we're back to Master- and Slave morality I guess.

Actually you are right thanks for reminding me I actually have no idea what the fuck Im talking abot lol

lol Im sorry if you feel that way, I thought I was quite genuine.

Well that's the whole point. Your chakras are working just fine, it's just a matter of how aware you are of them. If you have some sexual frustration for example and you put your awareness on your 2nd chakra or whatever it is, you just open yourself to the possibility of finding out something about your sexuality that you had not been conscious of before or that had been repressed. That's really all there is to it, just being more aware of how your body feels and what it has to say.

Just put your awareness on your root chakra and it will tell you all you need to know about it.

It's just fucking radical and in a sense you kind of stop caring. All the meaning you have created gets dispelled. I guess it just takes time to adjust to. I don't want to complain or discourage anyone but just keep in mind that your ideas about awakening are part of what you call "dreaming."

You're just making shit up at this point lol.

Logic is a map that shows you how to get from point A to B. Intuition is getting from point A to point B by virtue of your expertise or experience. A heuristic is stumbling from A to B, sometimes ending up at C instead. But of course as we all know "the map is not the territory."

I know my grandma has been sitting in front of her TV for the last 20 years. You are creating those experiences. I am too. Im not saying stop it. Im not saying I would even know how to stop it. I see it as the symptoms of an unstable mind and I share your experience so im not trying to talk down on you here. Its just your interpretation of reality. Life is not a trip. Life is just Life. Im not trying to split hair. You can make up whatever kind of meaning you want and then defend it like its true. Its what we all do.

I don't think we disagree. I'm just not comfortable with statements like "life is like a trip." It's really a meaningless statement. I think it's just your Mind seeking out these fearful experiences. I know a lot of people whose lives have basically stayed the same for decades without any challenges or novelty whatsoever. It's just what happens when you're curious and open and ask too many serious questions.

Psychedelics basically just turn your mind inside out. It all hinges on where you are at. It can certainly go in both directions. Start with a low dose and see how you handle it, there is definitely no need to rush it.

I don't think you have to frame it that way. Life is just what it is. Don't paint yourself into a corner.

I never contacted you over anything

Yeah you can pretty much pierce the veil by asking too much questions lol. I'd say the solution here is to just accept it and let it happen - there is always so much Love on the other side of such terrifying experiences. But yeah, sometimes it's just too much and there is no need to constantly keep reminding yourself of the illusion.

Haha yeah I know I was doing it lol. At the time I was just confusing Mind with my everyday ego mind and so I felt like a crazy person who should be locked up and electrocuted. I don't think I can communicate the terror and helplessness I experienced on that trip but you seem to know what I'm talking about.

Just notice that you yourself used to be at stage blue at some point in your life (probably pre puberty) and still access this part of yourself in certain situations. The point is not to get rid of stage blue (which is impossible since every newborn starts from scratch and will at some point have to develop through stage blue) but rather to consciously build social and cultural systems that recognize these stages of development and facilitate their growth or give them a healthy outlet for their way of relating to reality. You should try noticing whenever you yourself fall into this mode of relating to reality and you will understand what its purpose is. We all just want things to be simple and easy sometimes. At the comedown of every psychedelic trip all I want is to have a wife, a house, a dog, two kids and a humble job. Life can be rough and sometimes all we want is stability.

Of course. If youre not yet doing any kind of deliberate movement practice like sports, dance, yoga etc. this will be such a huge boost to your quality of life. The body is meant to move. So much anxiety, insecurity and sickness in our world today just stems from, or is at least partially caused and made worse by us sitting in a chair all day, staring at computer screens or looking at our phones (basically our neocortex/rational-/egomind being disembodied and thus causing us to feel dissociated and not connected to life). Getting in touch with your physiology and instincts (brain stem) and with all the emotions and trauma (limbic system) in your body is extremely meaningful and beneficial and brings you toward greater wholeness. Combat sports is probably one of the best ways to do that, so I would highly encourage you give it a try!

Just take a nootropic stack unless you want to customize your supplementation (in which case you would need to test hormones, bloodwork, genome, urine, stool for max. optimization which is kind of a stretch for most people). I take MindLabPro and im very happy with it. Qualia Mind is probably the highest quality nootropic stack on the market so check that out if its available in your country.

Well the theory of it is as follows. "Addictions" are just a particular experience that your mind has associated with pleasure and thus seeks out. There is nothing about these experiences that is inherently pleasurable and nothing about work that is inherently unpleasurable, its all about the associations that your mind has made. So you should try to dissoaciate your addictions from pleasure and associate work with pleasure. How you want to go about this is up to you, there are more radical (meditation, psychedelics, ketamine) and less radical ways (every time you indulge in your addictions write a short journal entry of how you feel about it and every time you finish a working session write down how you feel about it - this will nudge you in the right direction).

Logic is exactly not taking in information and making sense of it. Logic is taking a normative model of how thinking ought to be and projecting it on the information. Thats why logic ultimately has to break down. Logic is always a finite prototype.