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It's very simple, but difficult. It's simple but it's not common. Tt's rare so holds value & people will respect you more, and most importantly you'll respect yourself. Social bravery = highest form of bravery (those gym heads could easily be cowards). If you believe that bravery is purely situational and contextual, some people brave in physical dangers others brave socially. Developing social bravery = highest ROI activity, also the hardest.

I don't think there's ZERO truth to blackpill, however it may be beneficial for most guys to convince themselves that's the case because pointing out that there's some truth to it may send you down the rabbit hole, the rabit whole where a guy who literally describes himself as brad pitt in looks is "fucked" because he isn't precisely above 6 foot, it's a pathetic place. But I'd never blame the true very ugly or deformed guys who go on there, I fully understand why they're their and it's not fair to judge them and just say "hey bro just do cold approach", these guys are like in the bottom 2-5% of looks genetically, it's a different level of challenge for them. Imagine telling a down syndrome kid to just go harder at algebra, that's not going to work, that kid just needs to maybe find like minded kids to play with, although that's a completely shitty analogy because the down syndrome kid might lack the meta awareness that he's far less intelligent than others, whereas these blackpilled 2% looks guys are by definition intelligent enough to have the awareness of comparison and use a personal computer and speak and write words on a pixel screen and feel all thes emotions, they need an outlet for their pain, not saying blackpill community is necessarily the right place, but where else they going to go? It's a cold world the feminists will just call them "stupid incels" and won't understand.

liked Tom Tomero. He was kinda creepy, but it just worked, like he was creepy with swagger, he owned his creepiness and made it sexy. Listening to helped me rekindle and embrace raw dirty side, dirty sexuality which I'd repressed (since it was shamed out of me from early adolescence). Gd takes/insight on travel, adventures/ stories and personal freedom, he was intelligent and interesting man with a lot of depth for sure.

And good energy and vibes aren't the most common thing either, but at least it's something you can cultivate. Just pointing out that it could be a separate personal development journey just to generate good energy within yourself. But some people are just blessed with their innate personality or had the right childhood.

I slept with a girl and she seemed to like me But then I texted her inviting her to come over yesterday She responded saying she had to work ... But she didn't follow up with another text like "Hey How about we meet up tomorrow or hey I'm free on tuesday" So is it bad for me to ask her to come over again (the next day after asking her) because it's too needy or ruins the power dynamic? Or am I allowed to drop my game after having sex once? Can I just ask a girl out twice in a row do I still need text game

Considering learning website design also front end web development for extra income ... Starting with basics like word press and just learning and practicing continually, then post myself on Upwork Would I realistically be able to make money from this or am I many years too late, and will AI completely replace this skill set within a few months ?

My thinking was : It would either be Side Income Full time income (Temporarily) > to bootstrap myself into doing something better you're right, I didn't consider how hard or how much work it would be - I got the impression that it wouldn't be that hard, but maybe that was true 5 - 10 years ago when fewer did it and there was a high demand : Supply and also lower expectations

To get technical and numerical here what do you think would strike the right balance between giving it your best shot & having high standards vs being realistic / not obsessing over something impossible? ... Because I'm assuming you're not totally blackpilled and don't think attraction is all about looks or that it's a straight ratio like a 5/10 MUST date a 5/10 girl. Example (What staying in ones lane would be to you?) "2/10 guy should reach for max 5/10 girl" "4/10 guy should reach for max 6.5 maybe 7 girl" "6/10 guy should reach for max 8/10 girl after he masterd game" .. Or "6.5 is the cut off point where any 6.5 guy can get any girl if he compensates enough with master game, status etc.. ^ This isn't my opinion just an example, could you provide an example yourself like this to be specific?

Yeah it's just "all predetermined" like we don't have personal choices or can't improve ourselves. WTF is this extreme argument.

You're still evading what he's asking. RSD tyler is not a 3/10, he's at least a 5 or 6/10. Justin marc = 6.5 /10 in face or more he's just short and Asian, although I'm not sure what his results are I don't know what the answer is but my intuition is that game would be much much harder for a 3/10 than a 8/10, maybe the 3/10 couldn't even compete but would have to just do his best, like try to land himself a 6/10 girl with his personality. Whereas maybe the 8/10 would be able to land a 7/10 girlfriend just via luck as long as he was social and had normal social skills used a bit of alcohol as a clutch at the right moment (but no game for example), whereas the 3/10 might have to approach 300-500 women to get a 6/10. Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe there's 3/10's out there with stunning girls, I just don't see it often.

Hmm I have a Second Question Here is common scenario : I have good talk with girl outside club, maybe we even make out But I can't pull because logistics, the friend ect... I get her number I text her the DAY AFTER "What are you doing today, wanna meet up?" ect.. Every time they Never meet up with me and always just say they're busy How should I change this? Text a few days later instead of next day? (E.g 2 days later) Instead of texting "wanna meet up / are you free?" Something else? Like "I am free on wednesday at 7-9PM, want to meet up then?" Also, if I made out with the girl and she seemed DTF (but couldbn't come home cos of logistics and the friend or soemthing) Does that give me free pass to invite her straight over to my place that week, or do I still need to do proper date like with day game?

Once every 2 weeks seems wayy to big a gap. I would think 1/2 times per week minimum or she forgets you exist and another guy is boning her.

This guy's grift is nothing but raw extroversion, marketing and charisma, which he is undeniably a master at and I genuinely admire his intelligence in that regard. But he has said so much dumb and toxic shit and is so dogmatic and opinionated it's ridiculous. Making it in youtube is not about the quality of your information or content, but how convincing, entertaining charismatic you are, and how brutal you are at marketing and hijacking peoples attention. Hamza mastered all this, so I can't exactly say he doesn't deserve his success, but his impact is pretty toxic just like the majority of youtubers out there who just waste your time which repetitive clickbait and unfounded dogmatic nonsense. 1. Dating and socialization will absolutely grow you as a man arguably more than anything else will, it can be risky, it can break you make you worse or lead to suicide, but like many things nothing easy or safe will give you the biggest gains. 2. The majority of guys including myself, find it much, much harder to concentrate on work and motivate ourselves if we haven't had sex in weeks or months, and have no sex or human connection to look forward to in the evening, and feel lonely and unsatisfied. Likewise this also applies to having ecno friends and being a loner, and most people are at least ambiverts or in the middle so lack of friendship should be treated like a serious disease. But of course lack of women and friends are connected, not direct causation however strongly correlated because if you are seeing women most likely you are meeting more people and in turn should have more friends too, and nothing is more powerful than support, encouragement, connection, brotherhood, and then add on top of that great women in your life, social confidence, feeling masculine, not being needy, it's all a killer combination and absolutely will trickle down into other areas of life like business or public speaking, maybe you don't care, but I know myself and there's nothing more powerful drug than this. This unrealistic idea of "just focus on yourself for years and then become a millionaire and girls will come to you, simply doesn't work for MOST guys like myself, I CAN get myself to work despite the pain, but it is a lot harder and less likely, I have to force myself and really push myself, whereas if you know a nice girl is coming over you feel more motivated to make money, you are free of the heavy and dense emotions and probably won't be endlessly scrolling through porn, Instagram or tinder or even distraction yourself with lower pleasures like food or alcohol to compensate. 3. EVEN IF you could just work on the business for years and go without women and it worked, you still fucking just missed years of your life enjoying the some of the greatest joys of life that there is, why not try to enjoy your life throughout your life rather than "once I'm successful", which could take longer than you hoped and then you would seriously regret. I am still quite young but I have some serious about giving up on dating in for months or years in my 20's, I got bitter and didn't have the pickup mindset and got really red pill "I gave up focusing on women because ... I'll focus on women when I have the money", this turned out to be toxic for me and ironically not scratching that itch sooner may have held me back from winning at business, led to more self sabotage, addictions, bad spending habits and bad decisions. 4. The best thing I learnt from personal development is that success if fucking relative. I don't give a shit what Leo thinks or anyone else on here, the only metric for me winning and feeling proud is living how I want to live. And personally I want lots of experience with women, and relationships of all types, I want girlfriends and one night stands simultaneously and I want sex 2/3 times per day, and fun dates and deeper relationships too and everything in between. And I'll do all that while making good cash without becoming bill gates, steve jobs or Hamza, because I don't care and don't want their life.

I can't even arrange dates with girls who are interested because I'm so desperate, I can't talk to people because I'm so desperate. I can't think straight, make straight eye contact. Those who have less everything will be taken. I don't think I can climb out of this whole. Yes there's a weird looking ugly chick from bumble who would come over ... majkes no difference. I am desperate for a hot or cute woman, not just anything. I couldn't even meet a girl who's intersted becuase im so desperate, over thinking everything to ensure I don't mess up, and then if she doesn't respond to my text quickly enough I am depleted of dopamine. I am so sick of being in bed alone that it feels like a constant pain a burning mental sensation, yes I should go and look to pickup more girls but my vibe never works because I can't hide the neediness, you can't fake your vibe. Question 2 : Can you just invite a girl straight to your place, do you even need dates?

With exceptions to potatoes, eating vegetables just feels pointless because I don't get very full from them, they don't build muscle and I don't notice any energy enhancement from them. I'm not suggesting they actually are pointless or that they don't improve energy, but I just don't notice it, and they're also inconvenient & messy to cook, it's simpler to just eat meat or tinned beans or buy from the taco stand every day (who do actually serve vegetables) So yes I do actually eat vegetables accidentally however intentionally cooking & consistently eating vegetables as the main portion of your diet I can't resonate with it yet. I wonder how much worse my life is because I don't bother eating much vegetables? But maybe it just makes no difference.

And what you REALLY mean is ; I wish I didn't stop avoiding doing all this and running away from my greatness, because the avoidance leaves me in a perpetual uncomfortable state of anxiety, self hatred and dissatisfaction. And because embracing the path would ironically feel less heavy and painful than not doing the work. I feel extremely anxious if I'm not either : A - working hard (Business job hobbies) or B - Socializing/dating/practicing PUA If i'm not doing A or B and I'm just "durping" around it feels very very painful and heavy, it is fucking torture. I did it this evening and I am not satisfied, I am going to have to study and work & sleep a little later because if I don't I won't sleep anyway because not doing work poisons the body & mind with fear, worry and self doubt, that is unquestionable. Where as DOING THE WORK = FREEDOM, If you keep going long enough, you have to have enough persistence to wait it out long enough such that the work can become enjoyable, because pua starts off also akward and painful, and I am still in this phase after doing it for months/years on and off, but had I ploughed through it like a soldier, and literally done it every day for the past 3 - 6 months I'm sure I'd be out of that nasty stage already, the harder you work the faster you'll reach that road to freedom, so get ahead in the race before it's too late.

@ValiantSalvatore @Leo Gura Thank you for taking time out to respond, really appreciate this.

And half of us hate half of it. Just like half of us hate half of leo, but want to bone the rest of him.

Don't be ashamed of it. You only live once. The younger girl dynamic is hot, just like the milf thing can be hot too. Don't listen to others opinions or talk about it, whoever you like you like it's your fucking choice.

@StarStruck You do sales, I thought you was programmer or you do both? Interested because I want to learn programming (out of interest, maybe for career & business too) I want to gain sales skills too, persuasion

** Please keep this in dating section and don't move to health because ** : Normally i would try to deal with the emotions and save my money, however I have potential dates and girls to meet but my mood and body is full of tension and anger and this unfortunately kills my vibe with women, meditating is not working and I can't even think straight enough to text girls who are already interested or arrange dates. The only cheap solution I can think of is to drink some beer. Should I pay like $40 - $100 for a massage? Will this help me with my game this week?

Lool. Some guys actually don't care about women's looks that much it seems? ... Each to their own of course, Beauty is one of my highest values and joys in life, I guess I'm a very artistic and sensual person but it's not even possible for me to feel anything for any girl under 7.5/8 despite any connection. I decided long ago that I need a beautiful and feminine women to compliment my life, I will not settle for anything else, I don not want to surround myself with other types of women. Couldn't care less about a man's (Bros) looks, obviously, but male beauty to me is not looks but strength, generosity, positive energy, being a team player, comradary and masculinity, it is the masculine version of beauty If I don't eventually find at least one really hot girlfriend I will kill myself because it goes against my values deep desire too much. I give myself max 1 year to kill myself If I don't find this girl, she doesn't have to be "the 1", but I must find a beautiful and feminien women, and I will do all this whiles coinciding with hobbies, lots of busines and job work, studying, and being a "normal human" too, I will just work 10 times harder than every other guy on the planet, because it seems god has chose that path for me, I'm even a slightly decent looking guy, well I still struggle a lot in this area alongside everything else. You can call that dramatic or negative, but that level of commitment is the only way I can push myself, I'm going all in on this.

I am always feeling ambiguous about no fap. I feel clear benefits, but sense drawbacks. with too much fap I lack sexual interest to persue women & be flirtatious and sexual. But I have done all my dates on no fap, and like you said I struggled to concenctrate on the girl & show genuine interest & precense in what she was saying, and acted desperate. but confounding variables is obviously lack of experience, other factors (my coffee addiction, disrupted sleep routine, deep inner issues, general needyness due to lack of options ect...). I remember Leo claiming that he only recommends no fap when "doing beast mode at the club but not for dates as it'll make you too needy". Then again I heard reports of men who have done no fap for years and they succeed with women very well or even one guy on here claiming that hot girls approached him on no fap. It's a confusing world, or I'm just stupid?

Even though I see much validity to your perspective and agree with your stance against spammy day time cold approach. I think it's weird and pointless to focus on the non existent thoughts of the girls you had success with, even having this thought is pointless & shows too much obsession with what other people think. Yes don't be autistic spammy weirdo ... but also remember it mostly doesn't matter what others think and you just got to go for what you want because this life you get one shot.

If you're energies good then you'll get more positive reactions. But lets be real, a significant percentage of women will always find you creepy or just not be interested, this includes at night game and sometimes even more so with night game, so who cares you can't make every girl like you or respond well.