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As most people are not aware of how many drone incursions are going into NATO from Russia: When NATO finally decides enough is enough and finally starts sinking the ships doing this or shooting down planes we'll all know why. Russias gas situation is critical now. Ukraine is doing an excellent job of crippling this. If some countries won't stop buying it they are just imposing their own sanctions.
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One greater truth I have had to come to terms with is: Might decides. Force is paramount to decision-making and thus consciousness. While I always accepted this, I never integrated it fully and made it a part of who I was. This is universally true across the planet, and no matter if we want to say we'd not like this, or its more evolved/enlightened/integrated to be otherwise, it's simply the case. That force doesn't have to be physical, although it is most easily demonstrated to be. I feel spiritual communities, by their nature, resist this, and this is in part why the feminine aspect of consciousness has been the dominant one in society for so long. With many corrections, we overcorrect, something I loathe about consciousness or humanity in general, that rather than take measured steps, we are forced into large overcorrections, with large fallouts, and then we walk that back to a balance.
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BlueOak replied to ExploringReality's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Tell you what is odd. For decades the Americans built up this image of the FBI being a flawless, clean, trusthworthy organisation through its media, so much so we overseas believed it, it did a good job of painting America in the light of being on the side of Truth, Justice etc. And now in just a few years, I think they are a joke and wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them -
Criminals were pardoned and rewarded in Russia. Both from the jails but also those who committed these kinds of acts. If American troops do it and its found out, they go to jail and are shamed. Men can behave like animals in war if pushed; that's why there is an officer corps to enforce discipline. The Russian military is an undisciplined farce and their government no better than an international mafia regime.
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BlueOak replied to BlueOak's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
We can surmise many things in different forms depending on intent. My intent here was to highlight an aspect of life that is still largely unconscious and coming out only in the shadow behaviours of individuals on a mass scale. I could say this is a thought in my mind, I could say its all energy. What I can say with certainty is that decisions usually require more than just a single physical action to have any consequence. The only decisions that (sometimes) don't require force are to stop doing something. I can say this with experience because I have made thousands of decisions that went nowhere whatsoever, that I put insufficient force behind, or worse didn't adequately consider the forces that were structuring or resisting the decision I was making. Something everyone is guilty of time to time, and in part because of the ignorance of the principle I am describing. While you can build every door you enter through, most of the time we are not doing this and even if we are, it is within a greater structure. We live in a world that has many structures and forms that we interact with and decide upon daily. So the experience of decision-making not only requires force but is structured within it. All this is critical because, without it being known and accepted, it remains expressed (or inverted) in people's shadow or unconscious behaviours. I can highlight this in red pill communities, far-right groups, sovereign citizens, the manosphere, war etc. Both in some of their interactions but also in their reaction from others. I agree with your initial assessment on the application. I can decide now to be a spiritual guru, a businessman, or a political activist and then barely take any steps towards it. Without force, I go nowhere whatsoever; thusly to make a decision I have to understand both the force involved and required to make the decision meaningful or the right one. But it critically requires the energy to do so. and direction, as you rightly say. So i'm not going to say that wisdom isn't important. But I've had wisdom, intelligence, and good information on my side more than once and got nowhere. Force is the critical thing to get anything done. People call me intelligent but I am still broke and single lol (its actually annoying tbh). Without wisdom or intelligence, I think you can make bad choices and still achieve your decisions, taking a longer route just through grit and determination, gaining experience along the way. Its why people say just start, and that's often good advice. Whereas you can be the greatest sage in the world, but without some force somewhere assisting you, you're going to be sitting there alone getting nowhere. On your gender. We break reality down into labels for ease of reference in what is otherwise a continuous experience of events. I do treat women differently to men, until I know them better, then I treat them as I know them to be. I am a bit softer, gentler, and I am more conscious of giving their emotional reactions more space to breathe. I do this because after 40 years it has worked for me better at a surface level. While with men I am a bit firmer and more forceful which tends to have better results, again until I understand them more. There are, of course, many ways I interact universally with people, but these and other differences stand out. - For example, had you not told me to ignore gender, I would not be postulating this final paragraph to you; i'd just be giving you space to express what needed to be said. (Which is often the far better choice for a man BTW!) -
BlueOak replied to BlueOak's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've defined force well in the post above yours. Particularly in relation to structure, decision-making and will. Though I am open to expanding the discussion if you'd like to engage more deeply. On your question, Energy is a field, the raw potential, light and vibration. Force is directional energy, energy given a target or course. Shaped into impact, without force, energy disperses; without energy, force has nothing to do, so they are distinct, and each arises the other. I will certainly honor your request and respect your profession. Men have varying amounts of the divine feminine in them also, me included, it's not a binary thing or a negative critique to embody degrees of the opposite of what I am describing here. It's just as necessary to the planet to have these energies in balance within all of us. I specifically mentioned it when you said force had never worked for you. But you work in construction, working with literal force, pressure, gravity, resistance etc. You structure force into form. That is the divine masculine principle at work, regardless of gender. The force required to form and maintain a large structure is a perfect example. It's not abstract and easily defined. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Because there is barely any leftwing extremism to speak of. You quote one group, I could give you a hundred, no joke, on the right with about 5 minutes of google. (Probably 30 seconds with Chat GPT these days) The left has been suppressed and deconstructed effectively for over 20 years now. If there was a healthy left with a structure and organisation then the world wouldn't be in the sorry state it is heading for. Also I don't know if you've ever tried to post as a communist, leftwing radical or just moderate (non liberal) socialist, just to see what happens on youtube. You'll be shadow banned inside a week, and have most of your posts deleted. -
BlueOak replied to BlueOak's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Decision for me requires: Information: Raw Material, preferably clarified. Wisdom/Experience: If possible, offering discernment. Structure: A context within which a movement can be made. A door cannot be opened or closed without a frame. A job, relationship or spiritual path requires form to be interacted with, entered or exited. This is maintained by a force of some kind. Force: An Indispensable Element. Energy, Currency, Momentum, Movement. The power to actualize what was chosen. Without that force, a decision is inert, it doesn't manifest. Intention and opportunity is nothing without enactment, be that physical, economic, emotional, social etc Efficiency, influence, and strategy are best reserved for other forums. At the core I am saying decision is a metaphysical act. It creates form and alters being, which structures conscious experience. I am directly saying force itself is misunderstood. As many communities are driven by trauma-healing (which is very healthy), but it exiles or softens the masculine principle. The ability to pierce illusion, ground, initiate action and provide structure to choice. What is allowed is usually neutered in language and thus in understanding. -
BlueOak replied to BlueOak's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course, and that in turn creates an opposing force, which in turn creates the duality. A better question is: How do you collapse that duality? Respectfully, and I realise how hard this is to say in the current climate, but femininity isn't forceful by design. It's precisely the opposite. This is the thread in spiritual circles or conscious communities that I am highlighting. Obviously I need to ground these thoughts more, but I understand a missing dynamic now. Universally. In everything. There is nothing that physically exists without some kind of force maintaining or creating it, and holding the structure to allow it. A decision is nothing without some kind of force backing it and structuring its existence. Let's say that force is economic, or social, or physical etc. -
Yes they do. We should be at about 50,000 net migrants, as is historically sustainable, not 500,000 net. This is a position that can easily be argued on its merits and is largely accepted by much of the population. What needs to be defeated is the average, and the average in the UK says. I have no problem with migrants as long as they come to work. - That's what needs to be addressed for migration change in the UK. The working class UK acceptance of hard working people, needs to be considered below the amount of migrants coming in. Musk telling far right lunatics to go commit violence isn't the way to solve this. He should tell them to go picket parliament for the next year, or better yet, put all their funding into moderate migration candidates, who have far more chance of success than people trying to ban it outright. Because the fringes don't decide anything. Fringe positions are cumbersome to change anything. Always, always address the average, because that moves the vote.
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Its odd though. Decriminalise use, with a guarantee of no time and no record if they give up their dealers. - Make this widely known. The addicts will keep coming back, and you'll keep nailing dealers. This is done to extent, but it should be a common policy, and zero time no questions asked, if they are true to their word. Criminalise Dealing - If they rat out their suppliers make a sweet deal, if they don't give them a lot of years. Same principle and somewhat practised already. Supplying and Producing - Make these sentences astronomical. Labor to pay back society, repay into the system they've drained for a few decades. These people should not leave jail for decades, more if they don't do prison labor.
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BlueOak replied to Apparition of Jack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The internet is cerebral; it gives voice to thought (or these days image and narcissism). Thought is fleeting, often ungrounded when it first appears. With tiktok or youtube, people say whatever is on their mind with little thought. 'They' or the concept of what they are to you, can only be seen in the pattern they keep repeating. That brings some inherent dangers, because this is for a return or profit, they tailor their responses to earn that profit, and thus we can see even more of an illusion is generated that people identify with, which wasn't grounded in reality in the first place. Industries set up around this fantasy, and they too try to ground the illusion in a reality it isn't fit for. This covers many modern-day issues. *If it wasn't for profit it might be for X, and X isn't guaranteed to be much better. -
If you can step back. Are you more evolved than the part of yourself you don't like? It'd be better to ask, is this solution I am preferring to a problem better than another solution and if so, why? This negates ideology or blocking you from accessing solutions because the group (pattern in yourself) you don't like has them. In this time of increasing tension this can be increasingly difficult, as hatred comes more easily in and around force or violence. But beyond that, you'd be looking at these two pieces of yourself, and continually integrating.
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And where in the violence does the talking start @Schizophonia And when have you never known me to talk about something? Its not like I don't post reams of text on subjects and talk people's ear off. Talking is not telling people to go and commit violence. That's a crime in the UK, I don't care what you think of it. And the person doing it is a terrorist. I thought the same of the Islamists doing it as I do as Musk. I thought the same of the opposing irish factions doing it as I do of Musk. I don't care what they call themselves, or what cause they wrap themselves up in.
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The man needs to be stopped. Causing violence in my country. Inciting violence is a crime, and trying to start mass violence is loathsome in the extreme. He's acting as a terrorist at this point.
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@zazen 1, What is a sphere? Spheres do not require nationalism, nor violence, nor a military. Its consent vs coercion. Spheres can be cultural, military, religious or trade. Countries' elites and populations preferred the EU sphere. Iran's religious and cultural sphere is very strong, for example. The EU is an international power. Its sphere of influence is massive. That’s what Russia fears at its core, the democratic values of the countries, the quality of life offered by those inside of it. Because it would have changed their country without firing a shot. Now the US is going more authoritarian, the EU is distancing itself more from it naturally. No blood was spilt over Brexit because it’s a bureaucratic effort to maintain peace. That peace and democratic progress is its sphere. Plenty of fallout happens, bureaucratic and trade, as is its nature. 2) Europe’s Core Europe isn’t a single state, it’s a compound core. Single market, heavy on interdependence, it converts zero-sum rivalries into positive-sum gains. Which is why it's far superior to the old uni-polar model. This is part of your bias to try and play down what Europe is, to try and fragment it into a singular military framing. - Which negates a lot of Chinese, Russian or Indian power or influence also btw. But, what Russia has done is force the EU to project a military sphere. And that should worry everyone. Especially Russia. The latest 23 drones and missile attack on Poland, and now Russia simulating its military exercise to invade Poland, has caused them to shut their borders, erect a no-fly zone and put 40,000 of their troops on the border. That projects a military sphere, a very specific one. Poland's GDP and military alone would beat or hold Russia in a conventional war. 3) Security Outsourcing security to the US again wasn’t vassalage, because power isn’t just in the guns you have on hand. It was risk sharing, and a good way to ensure peace over the continent. However, Russia and BRICS require military deterrence; that’s obvious now and energy independence. - Again though, it won't stop at deterrence, GDP isn't put into something and not used. 4) “Russia reacts; the West provokes” This one’s Chat GPT quoted from an earlier convo, as it says what i've said before. Great powers push back when encircled. But structure doesn’t erase choice. Moscow had multiple coercive and diplomatic tools short of invasion (energy leverage, information ops, targeted sanctions via EEU/CSTO leverage, etc.). It chose maximalist war aims early, then adjusted under constraint. That’s not “forced by geography”; it’s strategy under agency. Also: if we grant Russia structural insecurity, we must also grant Eastern Europeans structural insecurity vis-à-vis Russia. Their remedy was NATO. You cannot validate one set of fears and delegitimize the other. End Quote 5, Russia vs NATO As I’ve often said zazen. It won’t be Russia fighting NATO, it’ll be BRICS on China’s say so. Russia uses mass and can take the areas it needs to, to cut off the Baltics, just due to it being a very small area that can be attacked from two (actually three) directions. BRICS has the ability to supply manpower and material indefinitely. While tactical nukes (not strategic, tactical) may be common in such a fight to counter manpower, they can just send men indefinitely. If he thinks he can win, Putin will try, even if it takes another 10 years. Our populations are already war-fatigued. I suppose Russia’s is also, the difference is Putin doesn’t care or need to care. Time doesn't seem to bother him. Oh and BTW Russia just threatened war with Poland unless it opens its border. Putin has stated that Russia's borders "don't end anywhere”. I mean, I can just keep showing you whats going on and quoting him forever. However, this could just be a clever way to force NATO to divert supplies to another frontline that isn't Ukraine. 6, Spheres aren’t fated to happen. Security threats from Russia outweight economic and cultural ties. Its something you and Russia both won't give weight to. If you could, you’d frame all of this differently. Sweden was a very neutral country, Finland preferred neutrality, etc. 7, This is the EU sphere happening in front of your eyes. As America goes more authoritarian, both the EU and the USA are drifting apart. America for example, is no longer calling the attack on Poland an attack. This is forcing Poland to stand up to Russia and the EU to back it. Its not America vs Russia, its Poland vs Russia, Ukraine vs Russia, the EU vs Russia. Russia’s influence will not extend into Poland, Romania or the Baltics, that’s a red line for Europe, not America, and that’s why there is conflict. Because Russia cannot help itself. Spheres extend till they are stopped, it will be stopped in Ukraine. You half acknowledge this reality but don’t see Europe in your framing. This is Europe’s sphere establishing itself in a military sense, removing energy dependency and standing up to the Russians and any other authoritarian powers threatening the continent.
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BlueOak replied to Rafael Thundercat's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Because we are in a cold war. Article 4 just got invoked. People don't yet seem to understand that if these Russian military exercises are a prelude to invasion, it'll happen in the next few days. Not a guarantee but the recent attack(s) on Poland and the baltics was a good probe of their air defenses. -
BlueOak replied to Schizophonia's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It depends on which lens you view this with . If it were an Israeli response to what happened, it's destructive to the future of their country. It was honestly cumbersome and odd and had a reactionary stupidity you get from theocracies. I instead expected special ops, covert actions and airstrikes for a period. @Schizophonia If it's in the context of the world being in a cold, almost hot war, then I understand it. The methods they use are absurd and sick doesn't cover it, but I understand it. Had Hamas continued, as world tensions mount, the fight would have increasingly been in their own backyard. Whether I like it or not, the authoritarian alignment that's happened cheapens life. That's a huge downside of the eastern shift we've all experienced. *NB Oh and the strike on Qatar on the Hamas leadership was something I thought was a long time coming. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I believe he was shot for speaking about the war in gaza specifically. But all things connect, there is no separation. The rest of the world is not fine at all. Russia and Europe are on the brink of war. Article 4 (not 5) was just invoked tonight, after a large drone (and single missile) attack on Poland. China is close to invading Taiwan. Israel and Iran might as well be at war. Qatar just got hit by Israel. Most major economies are backing one country or another in a proxy war. Its far from fine. Political commentators picking sides in this are unfortunately going to become targets, they already are in many theaters. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
From what I understand, I think it is the escalating world tension which is the cause of this incident primarily. As much as I understand the suppression of any actual left is at an obscene level in US politics, this seems to be due to the ongoing wars globally. I mean we are but a few steps away from a world war, and people representing sides or countries in that will sadly and unfortunately be targets of political violence. Though perhaps if the suppression of the left (not the rightwing center the democrats sit in, the left) was not so obscene, and natural equilibrium could be allowed to play out, incidents like this explosive violence would be minimized either way. -
Addicts yes. That's exactly what I said in the original post, that and more, as it saps drive to find a woman, or succeed in life to get one, and can develop into anti social habits and skewed views of the opposing gender, among other problems. Light porn use is not addiction, much like a beer doesn't create an alcoholic.
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To be crass then and not hint at it: Sex on people's minds leads to more kids. With all the stipulations of my original post.
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Russia attacks Poland, as usual. Same pattern on repeat. I'll respond to you Zazen tomorrow.
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Outlets for sexual frustration and tension are natural. Not everyone can get laid or wants to for that matter, but the biological drive doesn't go away. Abuse of it can lead to addictive, unhelpful behaviors such as isolation or regressed social development, a breakdown of the birthrate etc. It also saps a lot of the drive to go out and get a girl, or take the steps such as working hard that would get you one. I would argue that light use of porn in society encourages the birthrate. Its one reason conservatives are behaving oddly, to increasingly prioritize a stricter dress code to be the social norm, although I understand the other benefits to monogamy etc that this brings. With climate change, countries drying up, causing crime, food shortages and food inflation, migration, and war, increased cases of heatstroke and heat-related damage to infrastructure, for example (will all increase), storm and weather damage, across the globe is of course, a major issue, and a leader not tackling them is the mark of a fool. *Oh and BTW the mainstreaming of only fans, to be a career path is extremely destructive to the family unit for those involved. If I could surmise it all in one sentence. If its not special, reserved for your spouse, and important: Then its not special, reserved for your spouse, or important. - Which is the breakdown of a stable family unit for anyone seeking that stability and legacy. Sex is made casual, and cheating normalised, and that is a bad thing, however, wanting sex to build something meaningful should be encouraged through stable relationships. Thus, banning porn itself is not the answer, but neither is building out the sex industry to be an everyday occupation. As always, the answer is a balance in reacting to social pressures.
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Its already too late to save everyone. Water is already drying up in certain countries. As far as I understand it, there is a ten year lag, even if the problem was being take seriously as the biggest threat we collectively face on planet earth, instead its seen as a challenge but one that can be put off till later. But if it was being tackled globally, there is a ten year lag for any results we do today.
