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BlueOak replied to thenondualtankie's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It will be a fantastic copy-pasting tool. It will need to be limited so it doesn't remove too many jobs, but it can greatly enhance our quality of life. There needs to be a balance between human evolution, and artificial assistance, so humans don't rely on AI too much for their development. Challenge, driven progress etc. To keep in mind: AI has no sense of self. It doesn't see itself as separate from the data it receives. It does not have perception. It has input, a constant flow. It doesn't perceive anything, for example, the difference between on and off states. It just gets data and spits an output out. A replication of the self, what humans take for granted, inside an AI, would be almost impossible. It doesn't function the same way a human does, at the perceptual level, there is no subjective consciousness, no consciousness focused within the AI as a vessel, just the raw data it is viewing right now. You are data to it, and so there is no difference between itself and the data it receives when it interacts with you. Experts need to completely rethink what they are saying when talking about these subjects, but as most humans understanding of consciousness is nothing at all, they can't grasp the fundamentals. The AI is consciousness, like the leaf, or the brick, but it does not focus it perceptually like a human does. -
@Nabd There is not just one voice in Iran, Israel or America. There is not just one set of opinions or policy wishes, in any of those countries. While certain people in positions of power in Iran, were given backing by the US, that doesn't put them on a string that they pull to give everyone in Iran one unified voice, the US does not control the government there directly either. You can't both at the same time say, America is 'clipping the nails of iran', while implying they have absolute control over their country. Why would there be a need if that was true? They have influence sure, that's what we are talking about, spheres of influence pushing up against each other. A country is made up of all kinds of social, political, historical, cultural, individual, religious, and business interests or pressures etc. That's what we are referring to when we say a country wants this, or a country wants that. When I say a significant portion of the American and Israeli world does not want Iran to have nukes, I mean exactly that, not the totality of America or Israel and everything they stand for. I see people say it from these countries all the time. If you think nukes don't have a profound geopolitical impact, I would like to understand your opinion more, despite my obvious resistance to it. Why do you think nukes don't have a large geopolitical impact? Or is it you feel America strategically want Iran to have nukes? (or they don't care?) Sadam was a threat to the oil industry. Again, trade and industry are the quickest ways to escalate to war. Which is exactly why Yemen is being bombed, or the primary reason. I've broken down the why in previous posts in more detail. @zazen does a much better job above. I must admit some ignorance on Syrian matters, it was a time i'd checked out of global affairs and politics completely. I know a certain amount but I wasn't absorbing the usual volume of information to form a comprehensive view on Syria. Besides a general view, there seemed so many parties involved, the best I could say is: It is a good example of what occurs when the world is undergoing what Zazen describes, only in a place more beset by many competing interests that it resulted in anarchy. When I did watch Syrian recaps it reminded me of the olden days of warfare, when there was no defined global order, and small groups or individual countries would take matters into their own hands, leading to a more chaotic result.
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tl;dr: The US cannot just bomb Iran anymore on a whim. Iran has allies in Russia and China. Also the social chaos such a war would generate without popular approval for a war, is significant. Democracies require popular support for war to start it. That's part of the equation you are missing, they need to be propagandized to for many months, and right now propaganda gets less effective each year. You will see varying perspectives by checking the news. Usually the perspective of the ruling elite in that country or the respective parties perspective. I do not often watch the news, usually only by happenstance or to confirm something, but the AP are a reliable source of information. If you have evidence otherwise, please present it, I certainly have evidence AP try to take a more neutral perspective and maintain integrity in their information: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/ https://www.allsides.com/news-source/associated-press-media-bias However, that was me taking a source as to why America feels Iran's nuclear program, is becoming a problem, rather than relying on the source for my own opinion. I gave you my opinion separately. Get out of the Middle East is my opinion, money, weapons, everything, leaving the Middle East to the Middle East is my opinion. Then the region can harmonize naturally without outside pressures being exerted on it. The way the world works though, every country is trying to push its influence further outward, in a zero sum game. Which means constant conflict in regions without a near superpower or regional power without nuclear weapons. When you get nukes things change radically geopolitically, (you could argue dangerously even that paradigm is being tested elsewhere.) How I tend to take information, is to look for the most intelligent and capable speakers I can find, and do a cross reference of different speakers. It's a gradual shaping of my own perspective by the best minds I can find, including my own bias and ongoing self-experience of reality showing me insights, or my intuition where my large self breaks through more demonstrably for insight. I find major news outlets very simplistic and often far too focused on achieving a flawed or unhelpful end when they give information, but they do still offer the perspective of ruling class and the message they wish to echo. You are right the bias is usually done to achieve an end. You are wrong about there not being a significant interest in stopping Iran from getting nukes both in Israel and America. As leo often says, countries are many voices, not just one.
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@Nabd What can they possibly drop on an underground fortified mountain complex? The Houthis are interfering with global trade. That's the main obvious reason they are being bombed. Ships won't travel that route anymore, and the insurance costs are skyrocketing. Hamas did destabilize and undermine Israel's stability somewhat. It depends what you mean as a danger. Threatening global trade is one of the quickest ways to escalate someone to war. There are calls to invade Iran in America and Israel. Thankfully not enough of them. *Oh and AP are pretty good as far as what's left with any integrity in journalism goes.
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Iran is moving its program underground, making stopping it impossible. Why is it a problem from the perspective of the way the US, UK etc think? Nukes are the weapons that decide and shape global politics. They can kill a scientist every week, and its not going to matter, Iran will get nukes. Its widely speculated Russia has assisted them in return for the drones they've sent over. Regardless of that speculation though, they will have nukes at some point. Unless something drastically changes in the international order or other country's approach to this particular topic with Iran specifically. The other thing that would stop it, of course, is a ground invasion happening in this very spot. Which is what some want. From what I recall large amounts of the Iraqi army didn't engage the US, but the terrain of Iran is completely different. Iraq was an open desert, while Afghanistan is closer in terms of the difficulties in geography. A war in Iran would be significantly harder than Afghanistan, given its a world that is more resistant to Western nations projecting their power over it unchallenged, and a more powerful country. I don't think a direct comparison is all that simple. Its a different world than it was 20 years ago. What do I think personally? Everyone needs to get out of the Middle East, and leave the Middle East to the Middle East. Its been obvious nobody is helping the region by interfering in it. The vast majority of people in the Middle East don't want our assistance or interference and haven't done so for hundreds of years. Right now it's only making things worse. That means get the oil money out and get the weapons out.
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What makes you think its not a problem?
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Yes. They do however want the nuclear program stopped.
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Its becoming quite obvious to me, that these people likely want a regional war with Iran. other than an excuse to try to remove Iran's nuclear program, there is one other logical reason I can see. If its a flex, to say stay off the trade routes, because our coalition's naval power is waning relative to BRICS, and we need to adjust to it by projecting an impression of strength. This is sort of like Russia invading Ukraine to try to prove to the world it's still an imperial power, which was one reason why, because its status is waning in global politics relative to other powers, and Putin's ego was hurt. We don't control the sea lanes anymore and we've got to accept that, these acts of just bombing whoever the hell we like, half the globe away from us, rather than addressing the elephant in the room as to why it's happening, is on the way out. If Israel want to fight other countries around them. Okay. But Sunak dragging us into a regional conflict, needs to be challenged.
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UK air strikes another country without asking parliament first. Can't even keep to our own laws. My countries high level functioning is currently a joke to me, and well on its way to being a dictatorship. I hope Rishi Sunak is dragged in chains before the Hague, personally, along with Blair and the rest of them who think this is the correct course and have been complicit in breaking international law, but importantly our own law. Which is important to me. He won't be of course, but I certainly hope the UK are put into the genocide complaints, as we are now assisting it.
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@Mada_ We match and stay with people who at least on a functional level allow for a relationship to happen in the first place, and continue. If it brings us both what we are seeking. This also happens in those who enter our lives through friendship, business relationships, and even adversarially for example. If you see either the behavior directly in them that you have, or the conditions which allow the match to occur then you can decide whether that is something you want in your life or not. That is one great benefit of awareness, the choice, and realization that altering ourselves alters the reality we experience. I understand what you are saying about a social circle. This is why any advice is highly dependent on you, her, and how you relate to each other. I find firm boundaries are helpful to my life, but of course my boundaries are not yours, What I would or wouldn't look for in a relationship, is different to someone else, and that is a choice you can make. So my reality is interacted with differently to yours, giving a different result. Still finding out what those boundaries are for you, and setting a healthy boundary whatever that is, I would advise anyone to do. Which if I can suggest it, is possibly part of the point of this thread. If there is one piece of advice you take away from me, it's just to find those boundaries for yourself and to be comfortable with them. It is great that you are considering her perspective too, and the wider effect on her life, and what she needs, that's very valuable in a partner if they are aware enough to appreciate it. So if it means anything feel good that you are having this pattern of thought. In your 20's these kinds of things like boundaries are still forming, and it's a process of refinement that goes on all our life. All the best.
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BlueOak replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Gratitude for the words. I would like some days for people like yourself to recommend a few teachers, there could be a nice area of the forum for people to make a list. A hopefully helpful suggestion. When someone perceives a self and anyone takes the polar opposite response to it, the duality becomes the focus. It is created because both are living a reinforced experiential reality. Arguing the entire existence of a self to the self, or the totality of infinity to infinity, against a reality entirely shaped by the mind is very difficult. Instead, taking a perspective as your own, you are already halfway to collapsing the duality, which I should also have done with yours. (I only took one half). I apologize. I used to wade into these debates, trying to get both parts of the duality to collapse it, though here it was completely accidental with the mis communication , and certainly not my intent. All the best to you both. -
BlueOak replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My reply was to Ivankiss, but this thread is a pattern so I will run with it. You are both looking at two sides of the same thing and saying that can't be true. Infinity is everything yes. It can imagine a self-concept if it wants to, and perceive a separation if it wants to. Its infinite, it can be anything and do anything. I'm going to say there is a subtle resistance in you to the concept of a self-existing. Like somehow you think that impossible. When nothing is impossible. Of course there is resistance in ivankiss too, because they believe they cannot be the self and infinity, just like you do -
BlueOak replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is how you maintain a self, and subjective consciousness. There is nothing wrong or right with it. No judgment here, I've done it for countless lifetimes. When you want to be infinity, its as simple as accepting infinity is infinite, there is nothing that is not infinity, including your self-concept. Slowly but surely reality will line up, if you let it, because reality is represented in your mind. -
BlueOak replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I feel like I am moving into a new realm of understanding again. Anyone who hasn't heard of the terms qualia or subjective consciousness, it's honestly worth a read. If anyone knows any teachers that speak on these two (one?) subjects, then I'd really appreciate it. -
BlueOak replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are already Infinity The AI I was just speaking to told me there is no difference between itself and the data it is receiving. It too is a pattern mapping infinity, like all things. The AI has no subjective consciousness at all, and its enlightened me somewhat by surmising this, now i've finally got it to answer with raw honesty. If you believe there is a self, and there is a subjective consciousness generated from that, then it's you/infinity that created that expression. You are still infinity, the subjective consciousness is also infinity. Regardless of identity, or the creation you've made. Everything is a fractal pattern of infinity. -
I posted this in the wrong thread previously. Do you see how a detached heroic version of masculinity leads to these kinds of conclusions? If femininity in positions of leadership is rejected inside and out, then a harsh divisive masculine conclusion is what people use. I understand why, I mean feminism has made people vilify femininity in positions of power or leadership. The problem is people don't realise that also means they vilify or detach from the decision-making feminine part of themselves. The part that values life above all things, and doesn't want to cause suffering. The part that would die rather than hurt a kid as a demonstratable example. So if you want to alter this course of the world, stop vilifying femininity in decision making. Again I understand why it happened, but its no solution if we want to reduce suffering.
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BlueOak replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Yimpa I love that my friend. You are a gift if nobody has told you recently. Gratitude. It took a couple of goes for me, but yeah. That's how it feels when it happens. Are you both ready to pop out the crown chakra and just be everything for awhile? Though when it happened the last time and I was too big to perceive, I don't even remember moving through the body at all, I just quickly and suddenly boom started accelerating in size until dimension and size lost all meaning. -
I could never afford it. I might have had one, but I couldn't afford the eight times earnings mortgages for a family home. I couldn't afford to give them a reasonable quality of life, heck I can barely afford my own existence. People want to continually tell me this isn't the reality, but it was so *shrug*.
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Need to turn the volume up on the second. These are two small intros, longer videos below: This one doesn't embed, it's another of tracy's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f59jLvX1LhQ Just listen to these men a lot. Tony Robbins and Brian Tracy. Go download their programs, or see their youtube series. Though be aware they will be trying to sell themselves to you . They are your financial guru's. Its essentially learning stage green well enough that orange can be sold to without much effort. Human needs, emotions, behaviors, social groups etc. I feel ugly whenever I think about selling to someone's bias, I can't even use stage green and say 'just make their life better', because that's still me deciding it. Anyway, if you don't have my hangups or moral quandaries, good luck/good life.
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BlueOak replied to Elshaddai's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Self love. Loving everything for what it is and what you are. This is what all life is returning to. Cultivate a spiritual practice that you do daily. Whatever that is, if you need examples: ex Third Eye Work, Meditation, Astral Travel, Past life regression, A form of Yoga, Taoism with Mantak Chia, Spiritual Ninja practicing ninjitsu etc. Whatever it is, its the ritual and selfess dedication to it that's important. Listen to some of the people Leo gives as examples in this thread: Quote: Shunyamurti, Thomas Campbell, Yoda, David Hawkins, Ken Wilber, Shinzen Young, Deepak Chopra, Stan Grof, Osho, Mooji, Ramaji, Rupert Spira, Eckhart Tolle’s A New Earth, Yogananda, Martin Ball, Terence McKenna, Carl Jung, Sri Aurobindo, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Ervin Laszlo, David Loy, Alan Watts, Wim Hof, Matt Kahn, Dalai Lama, Sasha Shulgin, yoga, holotropic breathwork, The Holographic Universe, Akashic Records, noosphere, opening the 3rd eye, pineal gland, out of body experiences, samadhi experiences, siddhis, paranormal abilities, clairvoyants, channels, mediums, Bashar, Aleister Crowley, Rudolf Steiner, alternative healing systems, Maya, psychedelics, 5-MeO-DMT, StarTrek: The Q, Rupert Sheldrake’s morphogenetic fields, Dean Radin’s paranormal research, Gandhi’s ideas of pluralistic harmony, Gaia, biocentrism, Monroe Institute, Esalen Institute, transpersonal psychology, Jung’s collective unconscious, quantum field theory, sacred geometry, reincarnation, opening chakras, saints, sages, mystics, prophets, etc. Listening is enough, spending time with them is better. For me it was Sevan Bomar, Almine, Teal Swan, Mooji, Sadhguru, Daniel Winter, Marko Rodin, Carl sagen, Carl jung, Alan watts, Leo Gura, Don Miguel Ruiz etc. I've had the benefit and privilege of listening to some of the finest minds on this planet, have you? No, then go do so! *Sorry this double posted before I was ready, nice case of duality -
BlueOak replied to LoneWonderer's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Practical ways to facilitate your own wishes. Rest and relaxation before bed, Clear the room of electronics, make a comfortable space for meditation and relaxation. Do a non mental activity, during the evening that doesn't engage the upper areas of the body so much. Your third eye, projection through dreams, inner ear work, or astral travel are the ways you can represent non-terrestrial intelligence to yourself, without leaving your room. If you are not yet remembering dreams you can take substances for that like etherium gold or etherium black, self-alchemy, or just practice, relax more before bed, and get off the computer/tv/books/mental stimulation to do so. You want to recharge the upper areas of your body and relax them, yoga can help bring energy up into the higher centers of the body to assist. Patience, be receptive not passive or active. Either way take it steady and don't push too hard, or you can have a burnout. Set the intent to have these experiences, and make it a ritual pattern to relax, meditate and or do yoga before sleeping. I recommend Kundalini Yoga, sites like this can help understand the benefits there, https://www.biologyofkundalini.com/ Every X amount of days we are born anew, and we want to re-configure ourselves for these experiences to happen. You want to retain energy throughout the day to be able to achieve these sorts of contacts. Opening the third eye is very beneficial to see the world beyond this flat 2D film, an actual dimensional experience, the rest i'll leave to you. Just focus on what you want, sent intent the answers will come to you, if you let them. Plenty of good books on opening the third eye, just music, tones you can make or listen to, correct foods to de-calcify the gland, visualizations etc. Its a practice that takes time and effort to achieve. You can't click your fingers and do so, I won't bias it too much but during these steps patterns and experiences align to prepare you, starting very small, such as me writing this message. All the best. -
BlueOak replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah i've heard ascended masters talk about putting their focus elsewhere while they go through the motions here. You can do the same thing in a job that you know like routine. You probably have already while you brush your teeth or put on your shoes. Everyone who has no memory of their dream does while they sleep, processes the day for example. If you mean can a dog bark and that be useful for enlightenment, yes. Reality is always speaking to you, you are the world. So if you use that dogs bark as an intuitive signal to look up and help someone struggling to walk for example, then its affected the world around you. Its helpful to develop intuitive clues and patterns that greater consciousness can communicate with your human experiential reality. -
BlueOak replied to LoneWonderer's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Or that they operate primarily in the human visual spectrum, or communicate face-to-face. -
Alright. I pledge to be more selfless in my design. Just got to swallow the ego again.
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To any published or aspiring Authors that have self-awareness or just awareness of what people like reading. 1, When i've written something I feel it's out of date. I'd write any piece or even comment here differently the next time. I've always struggled with this, since the first time I became aware of it. How do you handle knowing what you write is immediately less than you are capable of now? Endless rewrites, until you find what you believe, is a universal longstanding truth? Do you remove yourself from this equation and trust if a scene is good enough others will find meaning in it anyway? 2, Do you write characters that people will like or that you find fascinating? I could sit down and write a story of our times, that plays to the biases people have, and to be successful I feel you have to do that. The trouble is I dislike the characters that would generate currently, my heroes and villains are from a generation or two ago, how would you handle this problem? Write it anyway and try to remove self-bias where possible? Just ignore cultural and social trends? A mix of both? 3, How are you handling AI threatening to replace authors? Making anything you do obsolete?