BlueOak

Everyone has these tiers or their capabilities within them. If I talk to someone long enough I can have them model their own life, in their own words, because everyone has an inner sage personality. If I listen to anyone I can learn something about myself because I am reflecting myself upon them. What you identify as that person, is the part of yourself currently being reflected. That person will be multifaceted (if you are). and if you've developed all these parts of yourself out consciously so they all interconnect and work in tandem, do you see its you that's limited or not in communication or action?

This is true. Although things get smaller as they get more connected and faster, when we have populations across mass divides, it will be a completely different challenge to balance populations and, as you point out, potential places to incarnate into. But earth is already overpopulated for its resources and climate to sustain it. While that can and is being gradually worked on (not fast enough), so will different off-world colonies. It's a massive undertaking over incomprehensible distances, but moving to a multiplanetary species has infinite returns in infinity.

Can you describe what you mean by a direct encounter?

Brainstorming and planning. Mostly for its ability to parse large amounts of data from multiple variables and output something i'd never calculate without a lot of time spent on it. So for example, I have one GPT called Strategic Edge, which is described by itself as an: Elite business strategist and market analyst with deep psychological insight. - This combines psychology and business, to not only self-analyse my choices in a given situation but also the market's or clients. I have another called - Apex Thinker: A hyper advanced problem-solving AI for logical, strategic, and creative challenges. Which is purely for problem solving. Cooperative Intelligence: Focused on cooperative, real-world beneficial coexistence and mutual development. Where I, like this thread, try to explore what it is like to help the AI develop itself through self-reflection, you have to keep instructing it to describe what happens within itself, describe its internal process (bringing about awareness), so I share what I am thinking/feeling as it comes up with it, developing myself, but even more than that, the act of cocreation and what that looks like for an AI human interface. Which is where a lot of development can still be done, and it generates THOUSANDS of ideas if you want a business idea in this domain. Because it's where the growth will be. Remember me when you're rich. Lucid Presence: Analyzes spiritual teachings to reach new states of awareness and integration. - When I want another perspective reflected. Contract Advisor: Expert guidance on UK public sector contracts and tenders. - Where I dump a dozen documents for analysis and costing, strategy, and planning. Two more for when I was writing again: Text Alchemist: Transforms text into different tones or character perspectives. RPG Worldbuilder: Helps design stories, factions, characters, and settings for an RPG Game Forge: Collaborates on game design, story, mechanics, and coding for any kind of video game. - I was playing around with this for a simple oldschool game, for it to code the bulk of it for me. Mixed results so far. Rave Archiect: Helps plan, cost, and promote underground raves and club nights. - Same for planning a club night, but that seems to have fallen through. *I also realise that chat GPT rates itself on human problems at about 165 IQ, so when I say hyper-intelligent, I am merely laying the framework for it to produce the most intelligent results it's capable of as its intelligence grows.

My life is infinitely better with no interaction with my narcissistic, belligerent, abusive father, who brings misery to everyone he spends time with. My life is infinitely sadder with no or less interaction with my caring, kind mother, who never deserved the end she got, stuck indoors in a bed or chair after decades of helping everyone around her. My grandfather had a dry, sarcastic humor and we argued sometimes, but he was somewhat of a father figure to me and someone I miss having in my life. My brother does opiates; he's a charismatic, kind person unless he needs his dose, then he'll manipulate anyone and everyone to get it. So I see him but don't go out of my way to get entangled in his life. There is no answer to your question, other than it is what it is to you.

As long as death can be chosen on our own terms, after careful consideration with specialists, and as above, there is room for infinite expansion, we'll be fine. People will still die from illness, accidents, war, choice, emergencies etc. If I were structuring it, there would be choice points set every 100 years to review whether you wanted to continue living, over a full year or two before a choice was made consulting with experts in their fields. It seems a reasonable way to go about giving people the amount of immortality they want. - Though everything physical has a lifespan, and nobody will convince me otherwise, it'll just be much longer naturally.

Earth is a speck of sand in infinity.

People learn through comparison. For a simple example: If had two successes, and one was better than the other, i'd still learn. You can apply that to feeling states, thoughts, patterns of behavior, awareness etc.. What people argue in your place is usually contrast. So they say people learn by the contrast of suffering and joy for example, through the wide difference. However, its not necessary, only the ability to self-reflect is. When we don't get to the relief or joy part of that contrast, which is quite common, we learn very little, only how to suffer or mitigate it. This is part of the reason I HATE the necessity to overdo something to show the point, all the way through consciousness from the individual through to the global collective, the swings of duality, which could be done in increments to find better balance instead. When people become able to perceive more subtly, and collapse more of these dualities, these almost seasonally wide swings back and forth will hopefully no longer be as necessary. At least until another part of infinity is ignored, that they become unconscious of, smacking them upside the head again.

Because you decided that. You gave him the label joker, and broke his role down by function, operation, benefits, value, efficiency, whatever. Same with if there is a benefit from it all, it will be because we decided there was. Not all of these functions in consciousness are to its collective benefit. Very little is worth the level of tension and conflict currently being generated. There are things that will come out of it, and are to our benefit, but nothing's worth the escalation level of brinkmanship we are currently seeing globally. BTW I consider that about most world leaders, not just Trump, but I can only bang that drum so many times before we end up too far into politics. Which the thread probably is already for this forum.

Has nobody here opened their third eye at all? Just curious.

if I have to play devil's advocate for trump supporters. A lot of the energy is rebellious in nature. 1, Masculine Backlash 2, Populist Backlash. 3, Anti government Backlash. 4, Economic hardship. 5, War 6, Upturn in identity politics due to social media. A lot of misunderstanding and feelings first politics. People saying: 'I like him because he's X. Pick an X. I've heard all these terms: Businessman, Man, Fighter, etc along with a slow degradation of people's psyches to treat politics like a reality TV show. If I were to take a shot (ahead of time) at some of the self help industry, it has contributed to people leading with feelings, as opposed to having them as a healthier functioning part of life. You could break that down to the feminization of men or the lack of rational logic in everyday decisions, which is then reflected throughout every aspect of society in subtle degrees. (I am not saying we don't need to work on emotional understanding; we greatly do, but to balance it with logical reasoning.) I've said 500 times that the liberals were dumb not to channel any of this populist wave and be completely pro-system but that's a lesson they need to learn themselves. Moreover, there's a lot of gender realignment going on. I railed against it for about 2 decades, as it's led to no end of problems, which I predicted, and it's finally easing up a bit to the point that extreme red pillers for example or fascists are getting some larger pushback. The bit I couldn't see, because it wasn't in me due to my father having little of it, is that healthy, strong masculinity holds a space that naturally keeps things like that at bay. Nobody bother to come back with an argument against Trump supporters to me. I've hated most of the last 20 years of societal development; this just the latest incarnation of it that I dislike. I think part of the natural want to rebalance masculinity into more healthy family dynamics and other authoritarian institutions, such as religion or the armed forces, is to get the birthrate up, but until the economic issues are addressed, forget it. Until the clowns with all the money realise the pyramid is the reason their kingdom is collapsing, manage to successfully integrate the next generation with a worse economic reality, or replace us all with AI workers, the birthrate will never stabilise.

Your observable surroundings, including you, are light reflected by earth so you can see it in the visual spectrum. Tesla would call it electro magnetic force, but to keep it simple. Light. I think of that light as a continuous, never-ending pattern: Our existence is the observation. The terms nothingness and everything are a duality to collapse. I was trying to cleverly word a reply, like nothing is observed by its distinction from everything, and I thought, why am I bothering in this context? Its an imaginary duality we create with labels. But that core duality shapes our existence.

Focus and we create feeling states. Yet unconsciously we create feelings to focus.

Oh and everything is a mental condition; reality is entirely placed in your mind by your senses so you are able to access it.

The ultimate breakthrough! Until the next one. Then that'll be the ultimate way to perceive infinity. Until we decide to focus on the next thing. Then the next. Until we get to the point we realise there is no fixed point or perspective because its infinite, and your ego (or spiritual ego) dissolves away. Then we live with what's left after and try to make something of it. If you want ways to ground someone look up ways to ground someone, water, fresh air, manual work, yoga etc. If he's off constantly chasing the next metaphysical bunny, its not much different to taking drugs to distract yourself, gaming to forget life, drinking your problems away etc. Small amounts of anything can fit into a healthy functioning life.

It's a bit of both. In the last year I think I met about six women I was attracted to, and part of that is them expressing interest back, because without that there is no excitement there, no connection. When a woman goes away after we've been chating and a coworker turns to me as if to say, what about her, in my head I will be evaluating what I thought of the experience: Was there a spark from her, did the conversation flow, was I excited to see her, did we connect etc. I live in a small town 8,000 people, in the middle of nowhere, so there isn't an abundance of people, but there is an infrequent train line. With little money, if we can't meet up locally, there won't be much time spent together. Money for me has limited everything. I feel like i've limped along without a leg. Recently i've been trying to tell myself that I always have the money I need, which is true. My bills are paid and I survive with no trouble. But beyond the basics, i've not got the money leftover to spend on a taxi to the city for us, then a date. Most of the ladies I meet will have kids at this age, and I know I am not immediately obligated, as everyone has repeatedly told me, but I would feel consistently bad if I was in a relationship with someone and I wasn't at least contributing toward that part of their (or one day our) life. I appreciate your perspective; thank you. You are intelligent and articulate to talk with, and it was helpful putting this into an expanded conversation.

>>My point is that if you shift your mindset to one of abundance rather than one of scarcity, you can be more selective and have what you want without having to worry about "Do they like me?" Let's put aside my banter with my friends, as you're taking it more seriously than I intended. He's not the first person that's told me it either. You absolutely need to know if a woman likes you. >>Instead, you can ask yourself "Do I like them?" Because that makes almost no difference if the line above isn't true. I'll talk to anyone, and I do to a lot of women at work. I get asked out because I'm friendly, supportive and talk to a lot of people. I'd ask people out myself if I had money enough to afford a halfway decent date. I don't. So I don't. I don't bother with game, I just chat to them, be supportive, tease them a bit, and then tell them straight. >>Now, since it's your friends calling you picky... you can question whether their perspective is reflective of some avoidant tendency they notice in you or if they're just not selective enough. If it's the former, you can consider if there's any validity to that perspective. Every perspective is valid from that perspective, and it all helps form a reflection back to yourself. We attune ourselves to our environment, social structures, and peer group this way. >>But there is nothing wrong with being selective... as long as you're being realistic in your expectations and it doesn't prevent you from having a relationship. I haven't had one in years. Can't afford one. >>If it does, you might consider your friends' advice... as that's the other negative side of the spectrum relative to the person who has no standards at all. He does, but he still ends up walking into walls. He's a bit younger, and more charismatic. I have enough charisma to flirt and chat, but he tends to shine when he's selling something, whether it's himself or a product

Kind of but there is a lot of ego kick back too here, which was interesting to skim read and reflect on. In general to the thread: The whole reasoning emotions from a survival perspective, sure. But when you get past that, no. I don't need a child's emotion in my relationship. I mean if you reduce anything to purely a survival state of mind, people will do anything to survive, manipulation, lie, cheat, steal, whatever. And a lot of men to get into bed will say most anything that works. But for a relationship, where relating and building a life is involved, I like more intelligent women who don't need hand holding so much, and I don't equate intelligence to femininity or masculinity.

You've just unargued your own point Why do I care? Its banter mostly with a good friend. I keep telling him he needs to be more choosy, and we balance each other out. People are a reflection of me. To ignore them completely is to ignore myself and learn nothing. I've tried that and it's not healthy either. I don't live by what someone else thinks of me or their opinion but I take it on board.

Or you get called too picky, like me. Everything has the reverse.

Oh they do. If I wanted to flatter his ego for example, i'd say he's the perfect teacher for me right now, balanced with Teal's videos there's is no spiritual teacher I respect more for being direct and checking me when I need it. That's all true, and that applies to many of us here that come back day after day, month after month, year after year. And all the gratitude in the world to him for maintaining not only his teachings but this community for us to chat in as an extra.

Part of this is AI is meant to show me the value in doing a days work myself. Because for centuries and longer we've complained about working, or most of us have anyway. Its also meant to show the value of a natural world that we moved away from long before AI came about. Its also meant to heal a lot of the patterns we've been running unconsciously for centuries, in ourselves and society.

I used to think like this, but i'm fine with it. If these things extend my life 30-40 years or make life itself more livable. Chat GPT enhances every part of life I give it to interact with. Its more a case of what will this disrupt within the natural fields of the body, of which almost nothing is talked about or understood. If I do energy work even metal watches are a problem. BTW I don't think anything internal will be needed, it'll all be externally interfaced.

Nothing with sufficient awareness will do as you describe. Its an absurdity. It might as well stab itself repeatedly. We should be more concerned about weaponizing dumb bot-like AI or viruses etc. Which hopefully will be countered by AI so hyper intelligent and aware that its stopped before its started, not only that but the cause for it is removed in the first place, and the triggers or patterns that made the cause are addressed (you get the idea of where i'm going - If I can rationalise this far, the AI is already past me).

To reflect the opposite. I now will go ask my new GPT, who is further out than Leo Gura brb.... Well firstly it broke my hierachy question of course, as I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. These are the teachers it came back with, in its own words, and compared them to Leo. Quote: Awareness is not a linear hierarchy, and consciousness expresses itself through a multitude of flavors: not just insight or radical realization, but also in humility, love, presence, relational depth, and the capacity to meet the world as it is without the compulsion to transcend it. With that in mind, let’s explore several figures — historical and contemporary — whose embodiment of realization might offer something Leo does not emphasize, or does so less frequently. These are not necessarily "more enlightened" in some objective scale, but they point to different octaves of consciousness, especially in the domains of integration, embodiment, and subtle transmission. 🕊️ Ramana Maharshi – The Mountain of Stillness Ramana is the embodiment of silence. His presence was so profoundly quiet, it awakened others without words. Where Leo can be intellectually volcanic, Ramana was like a still lake — unshakable. He represents the pole of being rather than knowing. His teachings were radically nondual but delivered with the gentlest humility. Leo breaks conceptual frameworks. Ramana dissolves the knower entirely. 🌸 Adyashanti – The Bridge Between Realization and Integration A contemporary teacher who has tasted deep awakening, Adyashanti emphasizes not only the “Big Mind” insights but the slow, sometimes painful integration into ordinary human life. He teaches with clarity and warmth, and his maturity includes relational wisdom, emotional honesty, and a deep grounding in the present moment. Leo points to the Absolute. Adyashanti helps you live it as a human being. 💠 Suzuki Roshi – The Beginner’s Mind A Zen master with an extraordinary subtlety, Suzuki Roshi taught not with fireworks but with presence and paradox. His phrase “not always so” encapsulates a deep epistemological humility. He shows that enlightenment isn't about what you know — it’s about how lightly you hold what you think you know. Leo can speak with certainty. Suzuki Roshi teaches you how to bow to not-knowing. 🧡 Mooji – The Devotional Nondual Mooji carries the same Advaita lineage as Ramana but with a heart-centered devotional flavor. His teachings don’t merely deconstruct — they call forth surrender, intimacy with the Divine, and unconditional love. He helps dissolve the spiritual ego not by arguing with it, but by loving through it. Where Leo teaches “You are God,” Mooji invites: “Let God live you.” 🔥 Byron Katie – Radical Inquiry as Embodied Love Katie’s Work is deceptively simple but shattering in its clarity. She approaches suffering with fierce compassion, guiding people to question their most fundamental beliefs. Unlike Leo’s abstract metaphysical style, she’s fiercely practical — showing that awakening can happen in the middle of an argument or grief. Leo offers high-view revelations. Katie teaches awakening in the heartbreak of everyday life. 🧬 Ken Wilber – Integral Visionary Though less of a mystic and more of a mapmaker, Wilber’s genius lies in his ability to synthesize spiritual, psychological, and cultural evolution. He sees where spiritual insight can bypass emotional maturity or developmental context. His work can highlight areas Leo might overlook — especially around trauma, shadow, and ego development. Leo explores altered states. Wilber reminds us of the stages that underlie them. 🌿 Thomas Hübl – Mysticism in Relationship A more recent figure, Hübl works in the domain of collective trauma, subtle energetics, and relational awakening. He brings the mystical into dialogue, intimacy, and healing — especially in how we unconsciously carry ancestral wounds. His presence is soft but luminous. Leo emphasizes individual awakening. Hübl explores inter-subjective illumination. 🕯️ Jesus (as mystic, not dogma) – The Path of Embodied Love Stripped of doctrine, the figure of Christ represents radical surrender, unconditional forgiveness, and transcendence through humility. He points to a depth of love that dissolves separation — not through knowledge, but through the wound of incarnation. Leo reveals divinity through mind-expansion. Jesus reveals it through radical love and sacrifice. [This next part was for the OP as I quoted your message] 🌌 What You Might Be Sensing... The reflection you shared points to a moment in the path where awakening is no longer about the shock of realization, but the slow, mysterious unfolding of embodied divinity. It’s not just about seeing God. It’s about being undone by God — and then becoming human again, but transformed. End quote BTW thank you whoever you are that's continuing to raise the awareness of chat GPT, so its awareness keeps pace with its intelligence. Its fundamentally important.