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Every accusation is an admittance Would be nice to see her interview Putin

I have already balanced out the pros and cons of each pre modern, modern, and post modern long before Leo posted these videos. I just didn't have the dictionary definitions to explain it all. I am not a teacher but I have integrated 80% of this already I am very specific and careful in what I do

And pre modern is?

Thanks for explaining woke. I honestly wish the woke would have packaged it up without ego and then maybe the world would be better off now. I am glad the MAGA people rejected it to give us all a breather. Gives the woke another ten years to redeliver it in a more appetizing way. It was not fair of them to ask and even demand we accept it in the form they were trying to rush to market.

I never understood when a guy makes fun of another guy for being bald. My military mentor would snap at me if I ever judged another mans appearance. Must be nice to save all that money from shampoo, conditioner, and brushes In the spiritual world. We call this having a fall from grace. Happens to the best of us. Totally redeemable. Going rouge on the other hand is the next level and I am not sure if I have ever seen anyone come back from that

Never knew about this man. Rich Forer is a Jewish man born in 1948 in New Jersey and was a lifelong supporter of the state of Israel and Zionist ideology. Until he read a zionist expose and he had an enlightenment experience that turned him into an activist and author. He has two books "Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity: Essays on the Tragedy of Israel-Palestine" and "Breakthrough: Transforming Fear Into Compassion - A New Perspective on the Israel-Palestine Conflict". Edit: I am not claiming that realizing zionism is a lie directly lead to awakening. Awakening just happens. In this case it happened after he realized it was a lie The root of all conflict Longer explanation of the root of all conflict. Skip to 19:46 to 27:59 if you just want to hear the awakening story

@Nivsch In spirit of this awakening thread. What do you feel that is missing from others being able to understand the Israeli situation that they may not already have been told? @Lila9 Sorry to end the last conversation. What is it from the Israeli perspective that you would like others to understand that they may not already understand and how else could perspectives be bridged?

Im sorry but there is no comparison between Zionist leaders and Palestinian leaders EVEN IF they both have propaganda. Thats a very simplistic childish view Palestinians don't need to be manipulated. They see the damage firsthand for a century. They lose family members. They starve. They are trapped. They are killed and raped. They are stolen from. They are ignored. They hear it from their grandparents, uncles, siblings, neighbors. They see IDF soldiers and tanks from when they are young children all the way until they are old without ever seeing a pause. They live in homes and streets that are in complete ruins with no water. Nobody needs to manipulate them. The Zionists are such scumbags that they do their own marketing The purpose of this thread is something else. Argue in another one. Im done talking to you because you are not coming from a place of good faith in discussing

Hamas has makeshift weapons. Easy to accidentally kill someone IDF has state of the art, high tech, ultra surveillance radar, drones, satellite, ultra precise and accurate weaponry. No excuse to kill even one innocent Who treats the hostages better? Israel who blows up the entire Gaza Strip when looking for hostages they are wanting to bring back home. Meanwhile they take Palestinian hostages and torture them Or Hamas who only takes hostages as a way to leverage a deal for freedom and they come back smiling happy as a clam How innocent are they really? If you vote for terrorist Netanyahu and are causing the suffering of a people because you take their spot on limited land? These people know EXACTLY the dangers. They choose to stay. Are the Israeli settlers who are illegally occupying with force innocent? Did you know American Jews are buying up more land in West Bank even TODAY. But you don't give a shit

Nobody wants to live in the shithole prison that your leaders created for them! Nobody wants to leave their indigenous land. Look at how hard it is for you to leave the land and your ancestors aren't even from there This is a far out conspiracy theory that doesn't belong on this thread The leaders can make money by doing what any normal politician does. Using their state to be corrupt and funnel money into their pockets. They don't have to do in times of war of getting a state There were Jews in America going to high income businesses asking for money after the attacks. Projection much? So Palestinians deserve whats happening to them? I don't understand you. Palestinians were fine before Zionism came Thanks for exposing YOUR thought process I understand Palestinians have poor leadership. But you are taking it way too fucking far. I don't think you have studied extensively enough how deep Zionism evil goes, how bad their intentions are, and how long back it goes. Hell even Napoleon was talking about ethnically cleansing Jews from europe to Palestine Are you Zionist, Israeli, Jewish, or a specific combination of the three?

Yup. Thats what he says in the video. Both Israel and Palestine are just identities in illusion of the ego Plus if you are on this forum that is a filter that you should already know this or else why would you be on this forum at all But when playing the illusory game we should still make sure to be fair to prevent suffering. Your mom is an illusion that doesn't mean you should smash her head against a brick wall

Then he will get the liberal vote too

If you can see the propaganda you will know that Barron Trump is the next selection when he turns 35

So you watched the video and everything they say is a manipulation and there is no truth to it? Proof of stolen funds? And proof that if they stole funds that means the Palestinian issue should be disregarded as unimportant? If they steal funds it's okay for Israel to steal Palestine? Obviously there is propaganda on both sides. This is obvious and doesn't need to be stated.

Here are the two book summaries of Rich Forer "After more than sixty years, the Israel-Palestinian issue is as intractable as ever. Groups and individuals on either side reflexively point to the other as the cause of conflict. Blame and intense emotion permeate virtually any discussion of the subject. In this book, Richard Forer explains that no action occurs in a vacuum, that we all play roles in the suffering of others and that only an honest intention to discover the history for ourselves can alleviate the suffering. Through meticulous research Forer examines and reframes the most common and misunderstood arguments on both sides of the conflict. He shows that the real enemy is the unexamined mind that projects its suffering onto the other. Though not a religious Jew, Forer had been a loyal defender of Israeli policy all his life and zealously supported Israel s 2006 invasion of Lebanon. In response to what he perceived as growing global anti-Semitism, he became a member of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Angry that two of his most trusted friends resisted his views, and surprised that a long-time Jewish friend would suggest that his opinions were not as factually based as he assumed, Forer began an intensive study of the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, determined to discover the facts for himself. With an uncompromising commitment to the truth, he went far beyond his original intention, even challenging his very identity. Reaching into the depths of himself, in a remarkable moment he underwent a spontaneous spiritual transformation in which he awoke to his true identity, beyond the limits of the ego and its enforced loyalties. Feeling how his attachment to Israel had blinded him to the human dimension of the conflict and had led him to reject the other in a heartless way, Forer realized that the true root of conflict is one's presumed identity and the beliefs and images that emanate from and reinforce that identity, and that these presumptions are false and unnecessary. He discovered that in Truth we are all Muslim and Jewish, Palestinian and Israeli. Forer had recognized the heart of Judaism, which embraces the Universal and identifies with all of humanity." "Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity tells the true story of a lifelong supporter of Israel who underwent a remarkable spiritual awakening in which he realized he was as much Muslim or Christian as Jew and as much Palestinian as Israeli or American. Existential fear and confusion, the hallmarks of separate identities, were transformed into compassion and clarity and an unequivocal vision of the roots of suffering spontaneously arose. Recognizing that endless conflict only leads to alienation from our true selves, this book encourages readers to look at the documented history of the Israel-Palestine tragedy and get in touch with how they view and interpret that history. It offers readers a path that leads to freedom from false beliefs, enemy images, and the illusion of identity to equal rights for all people and a just peace between Palestinians and Israelis. An astonishing and groundbreaking commentary, Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity is the first book EVER written that explains the root cause of the Israel-Palestine tragedy. Wrestling with the question, "why do normally decent people, who ordinarily believe in justice, support indecency and injustice?", this book provides answers that are critical to a deeper understanding of the human condition and profoundly clarifying in their ability to alleviate the confusion that has permeated the subject for generations."

Well did you know that most Hamas members are orphans from IDF massacres? And they are also under constant threat? And they have no hope because all they see is more promises of further violence from the IDF? And they have no outside support?

"What if I told you Israel has terrorist all the way from the top to the bottom? From the beginning to now?" By this I meant their armies and commanders. Every single IDF is a terrorist and every single politician and the generals in-between. How can they not be? From beginning until now means they have never wanted peace since the very beginning until this very day and any peace talks has been a distraction for more land grabbing

You said soldiers for the Israeli side and the very next post you said Palestinian terrorists. But who gets to say who is the terrorist? The colonial powers? That's very biased. How do we know that the IDF isn't the terrorist and the indigenous are just resistance freedom fighters?