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@machiavelli Don't be depressed. It's not possible to achieve this realisation from watching a video. As an enlightened master, I can reassure you that the only way to achieve true realisation is to read the following words and take heed: The world sits on top of a giant turtle, and this turtle is standing on the back of an even larger turtle, which itself is part of a column of increasingly large turtles that continues indefinitely. If this doesn't fix your depression instantly you are not contemplating it deeply enough.

- Blindfold, lying down, do not take the blindfold off at any time. - Empty stomach - Headphones playing introspective classical / neoclassic music. Do all the above and you will at least double (probably much more) the potency of a trip.

@RMQualtrough Very nice. One of the most "enlightened" posts I have seen on this forum. Very well written too. It reminded me of a documentary I've seen about a man with a seven-second memory. Definitely worth a watch:

Simply this: The past does not determine the present. Rather, the present determines the past.

This has also been proven with John Wheeler’s Delayed Choice experiment in quantum mechanics. They altered millions of years of history - the path that light took around a star - by making a measurement in the present.

Yes, but that’s not exactly what I meant. What I meant is that quite literally, your entire past depends on measurements, observations and/or ideas you are having right now. The past doesn’t exist until it is imagined right now. And the form it takes depends on what is being imagined.

I have thought about this deeply, and I don't recall ever feeling loved as a child. I had a father who beat me up, a mother who turned a blind eye, and an older brother who bullied me. I had noone to turn to, and suicidal ideation was pretty much the prevailing theme of my life from the earliest I can remember until I was in my mid 30s. I think this may be why my "heroic dose" mushroom trip a year ago was so insane in scale. I felt love, unmistakeably, for the first time in my life. It feels strange to finally know what it is.

You're right. But it is possible to disidentify with the ego completely and permanently. You still realise it's there. It still reacts as it normally might, but *you* sit outside it.

Cool.

@Alfonsoo @MsNobody For a more sophisticated, yet strikingly similar theory to Campbell's MBT, check out Bernardo Kastrup's 'The Idea of the World'. It's much better IMO. More grounded and more compelling.

@Leo Gura Trying to lift more than your body is ready for can easily result in a physical injury. When you did the mushrooms you were a sapling compared to what you've become. 5MEO is just about the heaviest weight the mind can lift, so I doubt the mushroom trip would be so disturbing this time around. That said, the trip protocol I described is phenomenologically absurd in scale. It seems like a different dimension of experience altogether compared to 5MEO. I can very much see why some people believe mushrooms are "alien beacons". I still definitely recommend it. It will probably cause you to re-examine your views regarding psilocybin's potential as a spiritual tool. I think one thing it is very good at is scanning your body / mind to see what you need and what you're ready for. And then it will show you. You may be ready for quite a lot. My reaction to the protocol was also "Holy Fuck!". Not so much "Holy fuck it's crazy what consciousness is capable of". but more like: "Holy fuck, God is real". And I don't simply mean the universal consciousness made out of the infinite energy of pure unconditional love It is certainly that, but it also, unbelievably, encompasses the religious concept of God to an unsettling degree. For instance, it becomes immediately obvious why churches, stained glass, depictions of angels and souls and all of the ecclesiastical paraphernalia looks the way it does. Originally it was designed from memory. It's a visual transcription of the mushroom world / the realm of God's imagination in process. This may be unique to mushrooms, and it's something very much worth seeing / becoming (in my opinion. I'm not sure it's any less profound than 5MEO, but it is a very different aspect of God, a very different flavour. Psilocybin therapy is beginning to really take off around the world, and there is a growing interest in this tryptamine specifically in people from all walks of life. If you did a new video on a heroic dose of psilocybin as per the ICL protocol, I think there would be a pretty large influx of people interested in your work, associated opportunities etc. More than you'd expect. Will probably become your most viewed video. For what it's worth. Here is the ICL playlist I used. Go do it...! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2mT6LpOU4ipJ0BkoCigAiw

I think the most obvious chemical to experience such “alien” states is psilocybin. I really, really recommend a 5-6 gram dose, blindfolded, wearing headphones and listening to the ICL Psilocybin playlist. I wouldn’t scrimp on the dose even if you consider yourself to have low tolerance. The addition of music has some very profound effects which may well give you the totally alien experience you’re after. Not God consciousness as such - more like profoundly deep soul consciousness. An absolutely fascinating state which I think may help to put 5MEO-style God consciousness into an even deeper context and allow fuller integration. The ICL-selected tracks were included and ordered so as to maximise the emotional impact of the journey, with different tracks coming along at what feels like exactly the right time. It’s mindblowing. You will completely forget you were / are human if you follow the protocol, don’t open your eyes, etc. The difference between being blindfolded + playlist or just taking 5g eyes-open and “chilling” is probably pretty similar to the difference between lighting a scented candle versus being hurled into the sun. Since it takes you so completely into the moment, into the infinite Y axis, the downside is it will feel like madness for the last couple of hours as you experience thought loops (the X axis, or “time” coming back online) and the shifting between two worlds (“heaven” and “Earth”). But you can leave notes to calm you down and remind yourself that you’ve taken a drug and the feelings of madness will pass. Cannot recommend this experience enough. I would be very interested to hear if you consider it to be more / less profound than your breakthrough experiences with 5MEO.

It was a joke. It's some outsider art, created by a schizophrenic artist named Nick Blinko.

@Yobenm I think this might be what you’re looking for. If you study it for long enough, that is.

@Galyna Good. Now try conveying the same again, but this time in a single pithy sentence.

It sounds like you’re mixing up a few disparate ideas. The “I” is already nothing. This is before invoking fatalism. Fatalism attempts to “disprove” free will by invoking classical physics (cause and effect, or we could say entropy viewed relativistically). As mentioned though, quantum mechanics shows that the past reassembles itself to form a coherent narrative according to perceptions in the present. This renders fatalism impotent. Before all this, the “I” is already only a mirror, is nothing at all. If there is no one there, then there is no-one there to make choices.

Determinism seems to fall apart without the glue of time, so it’s not as simple as that. Take a look at John Wheeler’s Delayed Choice experiment for example. He has shown that the past retroactively reorganises itself in order to preserve the narrative of the present. It’s pretty crazy stuff, and is seemingly incompatible with the limited view of life as a predictable sequence of physical causes and effects.

Time is not linear. It may help to imagine time as an object in space, like a tree. I sometimes picture it as if my entire life is a single leaf on a tree that lives forever. The light of awareness can move from leaf to leaf, but all the leaves remain, and eventually awareness will revisit them again. I’m not saying this is what is going on, though.

You could try being Leo’s friend whether he likes it or not. I recommend camping on his front lawn to begin with. Maybe try painting a banner? If you look longingly up at his bedroom window then you’re sure to get some positive results.

Frank Yang is correct. The problem is that different spiritual “teachers” use different terms to say the same things. Freedom = liberation. This is the absence of self and the realisation that free will was always illusory (since there is no-one there to exert will). It may be disturbing / triggering since the self obviously wants to exist.

Ageing is only apparently real when time is apparently real. Time is only apparently real when you are apparently real. You are only apparently real when you notice yourself.

There is no point to life (and that’s the point).

What are you? Nothing at all. There is no 'I'. Within the nothing, there is awareness. Not awareness "of" anything in particular. Just awareness. As soon as awareness kicks in, the 'I' and thus duality and the whole circus soon follows. Awareness alone can be tasted but not maintained. Maintaining "awareness of" is a noble goal.

The brand of QM which converted a group of genius physicists to mysticism in the 1920s is now coming up to 100 years old. Pretty amazing when you think about it: dream characters discovering that they're in a dream. Idealism - the key finding of QM, has often been argued against due to the small scales involved in the early experiments. Of course, many have intuited that there is no reason that scale should make any difference at all - but since the classical paradigm still strongly prevails within academic institutions, there has been much braying, dismissiveness and arguing to the contrary. Much of this may be to do with strength of character. After all, it takes significant courage to accept the total destruction of one's worldview. The temptation for the materialist is to keep ignoring or dismissing the mounting evidence. The above experiments firm up the case a little bit. Not that it should really be necessary. But in demonstrating that the same "spooky" phenomena occur at increasingly massive scales (as many already intuited would be the case), even the most stubbornly-held physicalist position will eventually become untenable.

In this context it means a hitherto unknown or unnoticed direction.