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oh I see ! thank you chum! i got curious why there was this ranking thing! yup, it would! so it's better we don't have it! <3 true browsky!

what is it then.?

@Vivaldo you are spreading ur nationalistic BS here bro. okie dokie, u are from India and yes I did not expect stage blue shit to see in this kinda forum LOL. IMHO, you are not even answering the constructive realistic criticisms made here and keep polishing ur nationalistic ego. India does not exist lol. it's a fiction! a collective fiction! what if the Americans start bragging about how lucky we are , how we are the greatest , richest and most successful? and here are my opinions about Indians, just like you are, most Indians are super duper nationalistic. stage blue/purple/red and orange . and there are a lot of amazing people a. my stepmom did her PHD in India at Panjab uni.we still have friends in india where they from different religions and castes .u know the deal! . some people i have personally met are sikh panjabi, and south Indian(Tamils). my mom said that they were not even having water to wash themselves. places like chandigarh are developed tho. after all, India is a cultural hotspot. just like USA or china a world of possibilities exist. and there are many issues there as well like @Preety_India pointed. and bollywood movies I have watched keep running the same theme in every one of them. just some boy n girl falling in love. by watching a few of them, i can already determine what would happen in the next one. In south Indian movies, they have a ton of fight scenes lol. and there is no gravity in Thamilnadu ig looking at the way people give superman punches at one another.XD over the course of this century, India will be one of the super powers as I can see. most of the country is transitioning in to orange capitalism if my observations as an outsider are accurate. if a world war comes, definitely Pakistan will have to be on the other side lol. and u guys are crazy about cricket! but after all, the place where we call india today (back then it was different nations)was where hardcore spirituality blossomed. most of the stuff we have in spirituality section come from there. so it's a beautiful country! I am definitely gonna visit there within the next 2 yrs. another point though, India is a fiction. it did not even exist 500 years ago. it was called different names back then and british , and french were the ones who made it in to a single country and separated pakistan upon Independance.if my knowledge of history is correct. u guys might hate pakistan but it was part of what was the part of the land that u call india . same with bangladesh. u are inventing this fiction and boundary of my country which is another egoic delusion.

true! that was nightly wise! and my two cents here will be that most of the world is still in blue and red. so green is a massive non existent ideal for most people on earth and they will never reach such levels of thinking in their life time. ik the inequality, income gap and the shitholes on earth are truly depressing realities can be solved through a green society, but it's hard to skip stages. if blue people all of a sudden started thinking about animal rights, and gave up nationalism, they will likely be invaded by the neighbouring country . so this is a problem of life and death.

true!

u will have to call the big-boss for it!

@SQAAD nobody is superior to anybody. and at the same time, everybody is superior to everybody. we humans like to think of us as special and at the top of the chain. but in an absolute view, we are just as equal to a maggot on the trash. but, in survival we need to look for the best, strongest, wisest and thus bring natural selection to play. therefore the society will always have a preference to strength, power , strength and success .this is how we survive as a species. and there is nothing good or bad about it. weaker ones will have to die for better ones to come. this is what runs the whole show !

@KatiesKarma do u often have these intrusive thoughts ? and try to fight them back saying they are not urs? these intrusive thoughts are linked to pure OCD. Ig CBT and meditation helps for most. I have had a similar intrusive thought loop when I went through the breakdown of my rationalist material paradigm. I used to get the thoughts of the most horrible stuff i could ever imagine like driving over pedestrians while driving and stabbing my parents. maybe u too are going through a such paradigm shift and in a radical shift like that, ego throws up such thoughts in defense of the existing worldview.

@ShambhuThank you for ur kind replies and ur valuable time! thus the reality is at the same time both objective and subjective eh? ONCE AGAIN a total mindfuck for me oh wow! "Truth is God. Denial of God we have known. Denial of truth we have not known.”- Gita thank u bro! umm yeah , we always have that survival bias. and all this points to me that PERFECTION is right here, NOW!

thank you soo much ! appreciate ur time and wisdom! that was a lot to digest . ig I have a lot to work on. I just started watching ur videos!

GOLDEN ! I guess I am still missing points. need to contemplate that hardly pretty sooooon. soo, the seeking of perfection burns up the seeker in the process. we seek perfection only to see there is no us to be perfected. what a paradox.

u like playing word games don't ya?

so that basically becomes another strange loop ! eh? and infinite cannot exist without the finite?

yo mandy. isn't that what we all are seeking in one way or another. some chase money for fulfilment, some chase sex for it. Here most of us chase enlightenment. are n't we always in this quest for filling that void? where does this void come from? aren't even spiritual folks are turning inwards to look for perfection. ?

what do you mean when u point additional claims to objectivity? In my understanding, what we consider as an objective truth is like us considering that right human lung having three lobes or humans have two legs. because this is the case for majority, we define it as an objective normal( a reference point) against which non complying conditions will be termed as abnormalities. what's ur take man? did I get it?

what we like to call objective is a generalization of subjective truths , or subjective realities right? what do you think?

of course! why not? here is the full poem, Auguries of Innocence-BY WILLIAM BLAKE To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour A Robin Red breast in a Cage Puts all Heaven in a Rage A Dove house filld with Doves & Pigeons Shudders Hell thr' all its regions A dog starvd at his Masters Gate Predicts the ruin of the State A Horse misusd upon the Road Calls to Heaven for Human blood Each outcry of the hunted Hare A fibre from the Brain does tear A Skylark wounded in the wing A Cherubim does cease to sing The Game Cock clipd & armd for fight Does the Rising Sun affright Every Wolfs & Lions howl Raises from Hell a Human Soul The wild deer, wandring here & there Keeps the Human Soul from Care The Lamb misusd breeds Public Strife And yet forgives the Butchers knife The Bat that flits at close of Eve Has left the Brain that wont Believe The Owl that calls upon the Night Speaks the Unbelievers fright He who shall hurt the little Wren Shall never be belovd by Men He who the Ox to wrath has movd Shall never be by Woman lovd The wanton Boy that kills the Fly Shall feel the Spiders enmity He who torments the Chafers Sprite Weaves a Bower in endless Night The Catterpiller on the Leaf Repeats to thee thy Mothers grief Kill not the Moth nor Butterfly For the Last Judgment draweth nigh He who shall train the Horse to War Shall never pass the Polar Bar The Beggars Dog & Widows Cat Feed them & thou wilt grow fat The Gnat that sings his Summers Song Poison gets from Slanders tongue The poison of the Snake & Newt Is the sweat of Envys Foot The poison of the Honey Bee Is the Artists Jealousy The Princes Robes & Beggars Rags Are Toadstools on the Misers Bags A Truth thats told with bad intent Beats all the Lies you can invent It is right it should be so Man was made for Joy & Woe And when this we rightly know Thro the World we safely go Joy & Woe are woven fine A Clothing for the soul divine Under every grief & pine Runs a joy with silken twine The Babe is more than swadling Bands Throughout all these Human Lands Tools were made & Born were hands Every Farmer Understands Every Tear from Every Eye Becomes a Babe in Eternity This is caught by Females bright And returnd to its own delight The Bleat the Bark Bellow & Roar Are Waves that Beat on Heavens Shore The Babe that weeps the Rod beneath Writes Revenge in realms of Death The Beggars Rags fluttering in Air Does to Rags the Heavens tear The Soldier armd with Sword & Gun Palsied strikes the Summers Sun The poor Mans Farthing is worth more Than all the Gold on Africs Shore One Mite wrung from the Labrers hands Shall buy & sell the Misers Lands Or if protected from on high Does that whole Nation sell & buy He who mocks the Infants Faith Shall be mockd in Age & Death He who shall teach the Child to Doubt The rotting Grave shall neer get out He who respects the Infants faith Triumphs over Hell & Death The Childs Toys & the Old Mans Reasons Are the Fruits of the Two seasons The Questioner who sits so sly Shall never know how to Reply He who replies to words of Doubt Doth put the Light of Knowledge out The Strongest Poison ever known Came from Caesars Laurel Crown Nought can Deform the Human Race Like to the Armours iron brace When Gold & Gems adorn the Plow To peaceful Arts shall Envy Bow A Riddle or the Crickets Cry Is to Doubt a fit Reply The Emmets Inch & Eagles Mile Make Lame Philosophy to smile He who Doubts from what he sees Will neer Believe do what you Please If the Sun & Moon should Doubt Theyd immediately Go out To be in a Passion you Good may Do But no Good if a Passion is in you The Whore & Gambler by the State Licencd build that Nations Fate The Harlots cry from Street to Street Shall weave Old Englands winding Sheet The Winners Shout the Losers Curse Dance before dead Englands Hearse Every Night & every Morn Some to Misery are Born Every Morn and every Night Some are Born to sweet delight Some are Born to sweet delight Some are Born to Endless Night We are led to Believe a Lie When we see not Thro the Eye Which was Born in a Night to perish in a Night When the Soul Slept in Beams of Light God Appears & God is Light To those poor Souls who dwell in Night But does a Human Form Display To those who Dwell in Realms of day

umm,soo another question though, (open to all) is that the reason why all FINITE THINGS ARE TEMPORARY? soooo, are ya basically meaning that IT IS WHAT IT IS AND IT IS ALREADY PERFECT AS IT IS ? @The Lucid Dreamer yuP! the notions and definition of perfection itself tend to be subjective .

+1 wisdom reminds me of this, To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour - William Blake Dang!@Judy2 here comes your linguistics to use. I really read this thrice to get it! thank you!

these is also a simillar concept in buddhism proclaiming that gauthama Buddha was the 28th Buddha to exist. even goes on to give the names of the previous Buddhas to exist and the one who is to come next as the Maithreiya.

@CuriousityIsKey depends on how u indulge in sex. but if u engage in it ethically and consciously, no harm done!

locked for low quality * kidding* creation cannot exist independent from the creator. creator and creation are interwoven in such a way creator and the creation cannot be distinguished separately . where does the thoughts, ideas and words for the creation(in ur case the sentence) come from, creator huh? since these ideas thoughts actions ,words belong to the creator the creation is a part of creator.

hmmm yes, i dnt have much experience with yoga mate. and I'll be looking forward for ur post dude!

@Leo GuraI see a lot of forum members these days are depressed and nihilistic in this phase of work, apart from ur nihilism episode, it would be amazing if u could do a post more materials or maybe start a mega thread with resources to guide us through. have a great day mate! much love.

@Illusory Self many on the forum in the past few weeks specially been going through this sorta shit including myself. and if u think u don't feel fear at all try visiting some gore sites and see if u feel any fear. if not, we are on the same boat! kudos man! @KatiesKarma for some help out here, can u pls shed some light here sis? @Average Investor any advise mate?