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@happyhappy have ya taken anti depressants? when my therapist heard me talking about the meaninglessness and nihilistic conundrum I felt, she prescribed me to have anti depressants for 6 months straight. and after 2 moths of sertraline, not much has changed . and irl ig there is a bright side to this as well!

it is really great to find somebody to relate to ! no empathy or sadness either? yess..most people are driven by fear or desire with varying degrees of it. when we remove the two, we get to peace. I feel fucking distanced from all the shit on earth. no reason to drag myself out of the bed XD. I keep procrastinating constantly . everything is in vain. sounds true!

um, to paraphrase the the last para, I just said this depersonalization this is really like a half baked enlightenment. do u feel fear? I honestly don't .how hard I try .I just don't as u said this could be a ego reaction towards difficult circumstances by numbing out. feels weird .meaninglessness rules the day lol ! and by the way katie, are you saying that u don't feel happiness as well? I mean, in my case , I feel like a zombie yes, but an unclear sense of peace seems to be there. I don't get to be irritated by the BS stuff in the late night news everyday .

@Space Lizard yh man. same here we like to think we might be missed out by skipping news. #that was really sound advice

@peanutspathtotruth first off, congtratz mate!!!and I hope u consider the above points as constructive criticism on ur way. u got a great voice and plus, it's also better if u can give ur credentials. as always I 'm sure we can expect a lot of support and guidance for the community here and to the world from ya! keep it going! would love have updates! godspeed!

yes apparently! not really. for example,countries like Srilanka too exhibit itself to be very democratic, though inside it is full of corruption. In Sri lanka they have this democratic system but the president, the prime minister , finance minister and all the biggest ministers in the parliament come from the same family of brothers... when the majority of the population is steeped in stage red/blue , democracy only has to bring their continuity. Hypocrates too were doubtful of the democratic system owing to this reason. democracy is more like a stage orange thing imho.

same here for me....no emotions, dull. no fear either. just existence.....fucked huh? many asked me to give a break to this nondual awakening stuff. soooo what spawned this emotional numbness and deidentification?

yup! I too do not have a direct realization of this. still, if we are not aiming for enlightenment in this life, ig it's better we don't get our hands on the dirt ; create better karma . true true! many sound new agey and super convinced about them....not so appealing imfao

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loved every word of it!? he was definitely a beautiful soul! .@Sine It must surely be a hard time for u as well. such is life huh! can offer no advise. just my Love ,just my heart reaching out to all his loved ones Peace and love!

+1 won't we miss the wisdom while projecting such an attitude? I mean, though somebody has not embodied the truth or don't have a direct realization of the thing, still they can offer some legit advice right? but, 100% I agree that we must be skeptical of BS claims made on shallow grounds. IMHO, this displays tier 2 consciousness . the way I myself hold assumptions while not needing to seethe an identity or a life around it. I don't have direct experience on this part so I must accept my ignorance really! But I still cannot unpack the claim of stage green label u stuck on it. yesss,, new agers tend to have blind faith on this but many here on this forum(if my observations are correct) do not fall for that category. +!

sounds true. I was suicidal at one point In my life and I could intuit how depressing it can get. yess...possible! It probably is the case with the vivid descriptions of hell in many religions that are very similar to each other. much love!

ohh man.. spot on! we cannot make everyone equally happy. there will be trade offs. by demonizing pedophilia, we are forcing a part of reality under oppression in our concern for the collective survival. same with laws IG. we are punishing criminals to maintain order. true! Leo made this point in one of his videos...

what do u refer to when u say hell? religious descriptions or , some experience U've had?

seems to me like a natural egoic defense mechanism. ' and hey welcome to the forum! this is an old thread from 2017 btw..

on what basis do u claim this? many here are just having it as a possible assumption..

my stage yellow understanding of this, Dr. Ian Stevenson's work! he has spent his entire life scientifically documenting those who claimed past lives. and many near death experiences (NDE) reveal something about this model. and there are new-agey folks who make a living by reading past lives of people! coming on to spirituality, even Leo though not suggested directly, alludes to the past lives model in many videos. Osho and Sadhguru frankly claims this is to be the case! Eckhart Tolle also hints on reincarnation. There's Buddhist model of rebirth and karma .it is very similar to reincarnation in Hinduism and ,Jainism. Sikhism also adopts the past lives model .In Jewish mysticism, the concept of reincarnation appears on kabbalah. there is also historical evidence which says that even Jesus taught reincarnation ,whereas these teachings were banned and bibles rewritten later on. maybe , these were independent findings. it is very possible that all the masters of religions came to the same conclusions after their own findings! even after all those evidence, yess it will still be hearsay as long as we have it in our direct experience!

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I hope most of u are familiar with Buddhist cosmology where they have an elaborate description on various 31 realms of existence. from the formless realms described in some sutras ( Arupa bhumi) to the Narakas . also these descriptions draws parallel with certain descriptions in Hinduism, and Abrahamic religions too. the concept of hell;naraka has been of ages in many traditions around the world. for example, seraphims (angels)in Christianity and other religions , In my analysis fall to the lower or higher heavens in Buddhist context. many of you surely have encountered many of these beings in psychedelic trips or in deep meditations.; weird alien entities , tulpas , angelic beings etc. in to which realms in Buddhist cosmological model would u categorize them . what are ur experiences?

Theranos down down! scams cannot persist!

seems so @Fearless_Bum legit wisdom tho! I 'm tired of seeing thread after thread asking for advice ,help or questions. we need more of these discussions!

can u pls explain them ... I have always heard god realization is the highest level... if god realization is also an illusion, why awaken then?

@Swarnim and hey, nice YT channel u have browsky! keep them coming. ! I see a lot of folks on this forum are having thier own YT channels ...,

hey...I think U don't mind giving u some advice here. it is better ,much better if u could build the foundation mate. I pursued spirituality without doing the basics like financial independence to only have it worse than I started. this is why many spiritual teachers ask us to ground ourselves before rolling down the rabbit hole! and u don't have to pursue spirituality either. millions never get to even hear these teaching at this depth and yet they live there life huh.. there are no musts here. isn't that amazing? and whatever we do , nothing matters in an absolute sense. so follow ur heart man. always. always. always.! even If u fucked up, u won't regret them.

of course not. Ur life is not destroyed and there is a ton of hope! Even Grant Cardone made billions after being a drug addict for yrs. see, everyone's path is different and unique to ourselves. I too quitted high school when I was 18. only to go back a year later. at that time, I myself thought whether I might ever get to have the" good life". pursuing self improvement has dramatically changed my outlook on life. and I think u have all the time in the world to self actualize. much love bro! have a great day!