Yousif

This is like comparing food deep fried in oil that is tasty and you love it, but you’re biased because you don’t like food deep fried in shit, no one likes food deep fried in shit.

First off, you never know what will happen if everyone got enlightened so stop assuming that your assumption is correct, there’s no distinction between simple and complex. You start your argument with an assumption, take your assumption as correct without a real base to your assumption, then start predicting how things turn out, Your whole argument is wrong, and I’m gonna say it again, since you missed it the first time. humans prioritize survival out of fear Evolution itself, real evolution, is nothing but change, not worse nor better, not simple nor complex, these are dualities, meaning they’re one and the same and anything can be looked at as simple or complex, or good or better. Dualities are relative, what’s simple for me might be complex for you, and what’s bad for me might be good for you.

Evolution is the other side of truth, evolution is the changing side of the unchanging truth. It doesn’t prioritize survival over truth, it is the other side of truth, change (evolution) = unchanging ( the truth) it is the finite human body that puts survival first because it’s driven by fear so it’s humans that prioritize survival over truth not the pure force of evolution. This is a very important distinction to be aware of. evolution is simply the notion that the nature of life is change, and it’s not patient, it’s always changing, and there’s no pace, because there’s no time in the real world. I think you’re talking about the scientific evolution which states that everything is evolving to a higher and more complex state but that’s nothing but a delusion, there’s no higher and lower in the real world. and what I described above is the true evolution, which simply means everything is changing, without the notion of changing to better or worse, there’s no such a thing as better or worse.

Like I said there’s no distinction between reality and illusion, and if you’re not here who tf am I talking to? Sounds like you’re a nihilist that thinks all of life is meaningless but then give that meaninglessness a negative connotation which is a meaning you’re adding to the “meaningless “ reality

To have nothing is to have something, this is the bottomless less bottom, the void, in which all other dualities emerge, life and death, front and back, up and down, etc.

There’s no difference between reality and illusion, there’s no difference between existence and non-existence so here we are.

Being older has nothing to do with it, maybe you grew up believing in forest spirits until you’re 70, where did your logic go? Now I feel bad for the people that wasted their money on such nonsense, Did uncle ken really pet you and told you were a good boi? Wow that’s so nice. I never was not logical or scientific with anything I said here, stop projecting yourself onto me, You’re a typical scientist, you say you’re open minded, and spiritual and all the good stuff but you really not, you say you’re all for the truth but really you’re not, just the fact that you’re still in the science industry tells me you’re not, Look into the case of timothy larry and Richard Albert ( aka ram dass) and how they got kicked out of Harvard for using psychedelics and for criticizing the scientific method. I feel bad for you, you really think you know what you’re talking about, you have no clue what spirituality is, if you had any idea nothing else would matter but it, I hope that one day you wake up to yourself.

It’s logical to wanna better science, it’s logical to wanna upgrade the methods of science, it’s logical that lower stages of development cannot understand the perspective of higher stages on the spiral so I’m just wasting my time, or am I ?😂

Says the one talking with such an entitled sense of confidence. there’s no changing your mind, you go ahead and believe what you want.

Like I said, to better put together the puzzle pieces ( relative matters including the matter of rigor) , it would be much more efficient to first take a look at what the bigger picture is which is awakening, which science denies as legitimate, you don’t really know being more rigorous will make science better, you’re Just assuming. and again if you got the bigger picture wrong like science as it is now, you’re not gonna put the puzzle pieces in their proper order, and like leo said the notion of being rigorous is relative and subjective, you say this is how things should be done for maximum efficiency but you’re just assuming without any basis for your assumption, not so scientific if you ask me. just because science is good now, doesn’t mean it can’t be drastically improved and/or revolutionized, we are not attacking science because we hate it, we’re simply providing constructive criticism of science in order to better it so no need to get defensive.

You’re refusing to understand that enlightenment isn’t just about god realization or truth, it’s a way of seeing into the truth of anything and everything, the observer and the thing being observed are one and the same, if you can acknowledge that then science will approve of psychedelics, subjective experiences which will take science to a whole different level if accepted because then you’re actually looking at things as they are. you’re not understanding that if science uses the bigger picture of the puzzle ( absolute truth ) relative truths or matters will be so much easier and much more efficient to put together ( the pieces of the puzzle or relative truths) life is mystical, to have a true vision of the true state of affairs requires mystical visions, it’s not just about god, you’ll have a true look at the state of science, politics, physicality, society, health, and everything else. this is not just philosophy or theory, it’s the real deal.

Of course, how do you know what’s true and what’s not? That’s where awakening comes in, where it’s absolutely true under all conditions, it’s self evident, you might say well when science is being self evident you say oh that’s” self reference” who says you’re saying the truth? Exactly, which is why we say awakening is a subjective matter and cannot be said or proved in the current standard of proof.

When you’re trying to create or construct a system yeah being rigorous is helpful and even necessary, but you fail to understand that truth cannot be theorized or written down, it’s endless, rigor has nothing to do with truth, you could say absolute truth is the sum of all mini or relative truths, if you can’t see the big picture of the puzzle you can’t possibly know where each piece goes. Rigor is good, we like it, but at the same time it’s a human construct and has nothing to do with truth or knowing what truth is since truth lies on the side of deconstruction of theories, and science is biased against the deconstruction and for construction, but sometimes you gotta demolish the old to see the new which scientist refuse to do just like religious people.

letting you see that your ego is just the image of yourself and not the real you in the front on me is not attacking, I personally would thank a person that tells me I’m wrong when I am.

Paradoxically the smoother my survival and my personal life is going the more I am able to awaken deeper and broader in my personal experience, because awakening isn’t just about awakening to the godhead, you can also have political,social, technological, even medical awakenings into the nature of disease and medicine. the awakenings into why disease exists and how it exists was beyond unbelievable and amazing. as soon as my survival was hurt when I lost my job, my whole thinking went down into where the money is gonna come from next and nothing else. Which validates @Leo Gura’s pov when he said to take care of your survival first before you dive into deeper states of consciousness. in my experience it’s absolutely necessary that all of your human needs are taking care of and in sync/rhythm to the point of it not feeling like you’re doing it but it’s doing you, only then will you be able to enter these high states of consciousness naturally, again in my experience.

I do what I can to address an issue, it’s not my job to tell you not to burn yourself, I say it out out of love and compassion and in the end you do you.

Most of the people I know and hear think that they’re smarter than their authority like a child who thinks he/she knows better than his/her parents, although that rebellious attitude is common and I would say normal, it does tend to cling even after the child grows up and it starts to get really toxic and even fatal for both the child and the parent, it’s definitely an issue that I think isn’t being addressed enough, here are my thoughts on it.

The master would also try to help people with what’s making their life hell out of compassion, I know a lot of people in my life that are stuck thinking they know better and unfortunately a lot of people are like that, I even see people here mixing up the god self with their human identity and suddenly think that their human identity is what’s infallible and start talking like buddas, when even that is a new identity they adopted and nothing changed for them, I posted this to shed some light on the issue.

Let’s not zoom out that far, the issue is of people thinking they’re smarter than the authority in their life, like how kids think they’re smarter than their parents, workers smarter than their bosses, people consistently telling the politicians what to do, man thinking he’s the authority over nature and the universe is just stupid, A LOT of people genuinely believe this

All the authority that exist in your life, the government, your boss, nature, etc

You would be surprised about how many grown ups still acting like kids, I’m talking about people who are immature not just kids.

Apparently with mine as well, you stay safe

I’m not being on the side of the manipulator here, those people exist and they aren’t going anywhere anytime soon, my point is that you should be intelligent enough to know the manipulator from the genuine person, and if you fall for the manipulator you have no one to blame but yourself. we can talk about how bad some people are bad that won’t change a thing, the only think we can do is be immune to such people and that’s my whole point.

Don’t demonize the manipulator for having sleight of hand, balme the fool for falling for it.

I knew people that literally came to my place and called me a narcissist and a manipulator before they started taking their clothes off and laid in my bed. no body can get anything from you UNLESS you let them, if that happens there’s only one person to blame.