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Just came across this and thought it was cool so im sharing - Universe = prefix is uni, meaning “one”. root is verse, meaning “to turn”. Meaning: Oneself perpetually turns itself into itself

Excellent advice and great to hear from someone with more life experience on this journey. @Aquarius Really try to take this in without defending your position, its gold

Yeah really smart nuanced thinker, his books can really make you look at things in a whole different perspective

Its definitely not an attack on my part, im just doing what i do to myself, which is look at where i could wrong or deluded about something and become aware of that. I think another post i saw you mentioned you were 22, although it may not seem it to you now but this is very young and theres no need to rush, it sounds like youve had issues mentally before and I think its very important to really go into this and speak to a professional and look at yourself from a completely different perspective, i do this myself, maybe you have as well but just saying. It also sounds like youre skipping a lot of steps on the spiral, Orange is very important for example. So i know you do didnt ask for it but my advice is just take your time and really embody these steps, it is definitely a good tool if you use it well

@Aquarius @Evil Raccoon may not have worded it in the best way but I get his point. It is very rare that you'd even come accross someone who's turqoise, let alone coral and whatever else. Turquoise is literally around 0.1% of the population, realistically most likely less. If anyone's at coral its probably like 5 people in history. No one's really said it directly to you on this post but I guarantee they've thought it, I doubt from how you write that you are and also it seems you've built an identity around where you think your stage is, which is why you get defensive when challenged on it. If you are then great but you should be aware that being deluded about where you are will keep you at a lower stage for longer. For example let's say you aren't at turqoise but believe you are, it's unlikely you'll try and live out other stages like orange and green because you think you're above them, meaning you'll have those shadows until you face them. This thing is just a model, you use it to serve you, you don't adjust to serve it.

Great to hear your experience bro, its all a journey anyway. I think im seeing that a lot of these guys do just treat it as a business, maybe they had some awakening experience or maybe they just heard about things like the LoA and decided to make an identity around it, but either way theyve chosen to monetise it heavily which i get but i dont think theyre coming from a high level perspective. Shame you had the bad timing with Abke, i think hes one of the good ones. i would say though dont rely on just one teacher, in this case Leo for you, no shade on him but i think its really beneficial to get a few perspectives and different understandings on your journey. One guy i really like is Paul Hedderman for example

Just to add, a lot of these guys sell courses, merch and 121 sessions for a lot of money. For example Infinite Waters charges £350 an hour for a 121 session with him, now im not saying this is good or bad, obviously they need to make money somewhere but it just strikes me as a bit strange, esp using marketing tactics that other financial or pick up gurus use. Its like if you strip away the content, the structure is the same thing except instead of promising material things they promise peace.

@Aaron p Nah I know what you mean it's the same feeling I get with them as well. It sounds nice and cool but I don't know if he's just good at making it sound nice, you don't get a sense of direct experience. That's not to put him down, but I do think if I listened to him when I was first getting into this stuff it would've been quite confusing

@enderx7 Yeah completely agree with you there, I came accross Abke a few months ago and I can feel the authenticity with him, you can see a clear difference between him and the other guys. I would recommend him as well 100%. Normally I wouldn't have an issue with the other guys, I don't follow them but in theory I like what they're doing for newbies, but after hearing their opinions on the current situation I just thought, what's the deal here? As in is it just a way to get popularity on YouTube. Could just be a general thing of new agey stuff I don't know

@annonnimm32 How do you biologically prove heterosexual people are real? What I'm saying is race doesn't biologically exist, we invented it. Skin colour is as arbitrary as eye colour or muscular build or ear shape. There maybe common traits amongst people who migrated together to different parts of the world but that doesn't mean they are a different race. Despite the fact that race doesn't exist (not that differing attributes of people aren't real) people still discriminate against black people. So the same way you said being gay is a concept, being any particular 'race' outside of one human race is also a concept. Also there are studies that show gay peoples brains are different to straight https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex/

@Bodigger So what are the policies exactly, is it tax cuts for all those different areas?

@Bodigger What policies do you think are really attractive? Can you give maybe like 5 top ones

@annonnimm32 There's no biological basis for race either- https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/

A little thought experiment as well, imagine this was 50-60 years ago and someone wanted to have this same debate about black people. As in literally your post but replaced with black - How does this sound to you?

So what you can do is look at this critically. The main source of this is vaccines and the Ted talk where he talks about 'depopulation'. Look at both these things and come to your conclusion, as in look at the safety of vaccines, how many lives it saves or damages. There's a vaccine court in america so that's a good start point. Keep in mind infinite waters and teal Swan etc do not have more information than you have access to, there's no secret papers that they have, so any conclusions that have been drawn is either from their research which you can also do or from there 'intuition'. I think the problem with a lot of these younger spiritual people is that they aren't fully awake but they have their identities wrapped up in a spiritual life. They have many blind spots but because they've got such large followings they speak with a certainty on subjects that they don't really know about. Also keep in mind a lot of 'new age' spiritual people who are usually green, are quite dogmatic on veganism, natural cures etc so they are automatically against modern medicine, specifically vaccines. A large amount of these guys audience are these types and so they would definitely turn them off if they said vaccines aren't that bad. I'm not sure how calculated it is, but it's definitely a factor. Another thing is you will notice enlightened beings like adyshanti, mooji, sadhguru not talking about conspiracy theories, if they address the situation its in a completely different way. This isn't to say the younger guys don't have value, they do, but they also have a lot of blind spots. I don't advise following anyone unquestioningly but would be even more alert with infinite waters et al

I do find it quite strange that someone can really support trump but then also be on this forum and listen to Leo's more spiritual content. Im not saying it shouldn't happen I just don't get how you can hold the belief that trump is high consciousness having been exposed to higher consciousness. Following from @Parththakkar12 I agree that he can seem more authentic then normal politicians, I hope this will give some impetence to politicians that you actually have to be an authentic human to get elected, it can't be an act anymore, which is has been for a while. I would say Obama had a more authentic feel as well. Obama made a point that he was painted as some extreme left president, which is way he got a lot of hate which made the pendulum swing too far which meant when it swung back it was gonna be someone who was perceived to be the opposite of Obama, hence trump. In reality Obama is a lot more center left

@Someone here If awareness is only perceiving existence, does the awareness exist?

@RendHeaven The question wasn't about harm it was specifically about the lies that he tells as that's a lot more easier to measure - https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

I guess unconsciousness isn't really any thing, it's an absence of consciousness or a void of consciousness. We can't experience it with consciousness. In theory it probably doesn't exist, your conscious waking mind is just one state, you can be in different states many of which your conscious mind isn't aware of or at least can't remember clearly, ie flow state, sub-conscious, sleep state etc. But while you're alive you'll have some sort of consciousness, when you die your body will no longer hold your consciousness, then you'll find out what happens after that.

Raising consciousness, I truly believe the change has to come from inside of everyone, it's a massive job as well

Your reality is fascinating

The idea of marriage is a construct, it hasnt always been there and many cultures currently and in the past have had different forms of marriage. Contemplate your questions but truly imagine you were gay, as in you feel exactly the same way towards guys as you do currently toward girls, see what answers you come up with

Why is the automatic assumption that everyone is just watching cnn and repeating it on here? People can have independent well thought out views and AND come to a conclusion you dont agree with. What youre doing is projection and a very weak argument bro, if you want to make any kind of argument you should aim to prove that he doesnt lie, not resort to an ad hominem attack

I think he sees it as something within the rules of the game, so actual truth for him is not really a consideration, he wants to achieve certain things and will use whatever means is available for him to do so. If you look at the people that were running his campaign like Roger Stone he is more upfront about the manipulation he does and is quite proud of it as well (check his netflix doc). Trump as the front man cant be that upfront but hes hinted at it many times. Im not sure exactly where trumps line is, i dont know if he would kill someone etc but we've seen that within his rules misinformation, framing things in a certain way and lying are all allowed. If you look at his family history his older brother killed himself because he didnt fit into the cutthroat reality that his dad had created. For Trump it couldve been s survival mechanism that he had to be this win at any cost person, he seems anchored to that belief. Add in to that Trump is not a particularly talented or intelligent person, he would have to do sneaky things to become successful. Just my perception of it anyway

True creation tends to come from a place of no thought and flow state, so i think creating music is an ideal outlet for this. If you ever hear the stories of classic songs, the artists always say things like 'it just came to them', so music can be something that comes from some place other than your conscious mind, obviously theres manufactured music that usually takes from other popular songs and trends, but something original is true creation. Regardless of the genre or content i think this can be the case, for example depressing music could be whats truly in that artist or violent music the same thing. So yeah keep doing what your doing