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Interesting take from DDN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgrJbPkS6JE

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I wouldnt say he thought people storming the Capitol would result in anything changing, he may not have even thought they would get that far, but the point is he knew something was going to happen probably at the expense of his most die hard supporters (getting arrested or even killed in some cases). What he gains is his narcissistic ego being fulfilled by seeing others put their lives on the line for him, its also a show of power and threat to those that oppose him, hes clearly said that any republicans against him will suffer. So hes definitely winning i dont know what the supporters are getting out of it. In my analogy the abusive partner just has to make the abused partner think theyre winning to continue the abuse

Youre confused because you dont want to fully face the truth, youre like someone in an abusive toxic relationship 'he hit me but he loves me, im so confused'

It's not a quick fix, sounds like you might have some deeper issues you haven't explored, maybe look into some kind of therapy to get some answers of the root of your issues.

Well he did say he would drain the swamp, so fair play

You can't blame the left for this, the right has to take responsibility for its actions, especially when they were condemning the blm protests peaceful or otherwise. They're also getting violent to stop a legal democratic election, I couldn't think of a worse reason to get violent. Tbf though I can't even lump the right altogether, this is people who are shitting on democracy whilst simultaneously preaching about democracy against everyone else, the levels of hypocrisy are actually insane

This was inevitable though unfortunately, just hope not too many are hurt

Great vid, i like both those guys

It's not so much that you drop it completely, not many can just decide and that right away, it's more you become aware of the illusion. You have a choice in that you can believe whatever concept you want, this is what's taught to us as we grow up and to some extent its true, but it doesn't change the ultimate reality that is that you're just awareness. This is not a belief or concept this is something that can be directly experienced or directly seen, if you just believe the concept it makes it no different than any other belief. Your choice essentially is to believe illusion ie your mind or experience reality. You may believe that illusion let's you do different things but to compare it you'd have to experience Non-Duality, that's the investigation you need to conduct

Your awareness comes first, everything, including your ideas about Non-Duality or anything else are within your awareness. Your getting lost in ideas, ideas are just content that you are aware of, there is no self that can benefit from an idea of Non-Duality, that is an illusion. The only thing in your experience that is not an illusion is awareness, this is something you can experience for yourself. I feel the way youre currently seeing it is that this idea of Non-Duality can help you live a better life, this is a contradiction because there is no 'you', that's what needs to be seen. Non-Duality is what's left when the self and all its ideas have been dropped, it's what has always and will always be there regardless of the content the mind throws up

This obviously is not surprising, but surely this is hard proof of an attempt to defraud the election, surely worse than alleged with no evidence fraud. So what is it actually going to take to make Trump supporters realise who this guy is? Or is it just an all out cult at this point? Potentially he could be hurting repubs with this type of thing

If someone does it unknowingly thats one thing, but you can infer intention from his general rhetoric in this case. Again its not that the term used especially offended me its just that it was obviously said to bait as it had nothing to do with anything, we werent even talking about Obama. For one thing black people are just more comfortable talking about race, as they have over the years gotten the short end of that stick. It has to do with power dynamics, so for example poor people can make jokes about being poor amongst each other but if a rich person made a joke about them being poor, it can come off as if they are being superior and looking down on them and also not really understanding their issues. Same with any dynamic like that, if an in shape person made a joke about fat people, if a young person made jokes about old people, if good looking person made a joke about ugly an ugly person. Its all the same, and also the definition of racism is believing yourself to be superior to another based on race, if you make a joke disparaging black people your intention may not be bad or even racist but it will definitely come across as such. If you take the 'Kenyan man' example its a way to reduce Obama to just his racial heritage as if thats all he is, so in that way the person saying it can in maybe think he or others are superior to Obama

Well I'm black so... But aside from that my point was more it's not relevant whether he's Kenyan or not, it literally had nothing to do with anything, but the person writing the comment knew that it might be offensive, which is something I see from the right a lot. It's like we have a right to say whatever and we're going to prove it by saying something we think would be offensive to you. It's just trying to bait people so that when they react they can say 'ha look how sensitive you are', normally I wouldn't comment but on this forum where its supposedly more 'advanced' people I don't think these type of tactics are needed or constructive

If youre trying to 'do' non-duality or take away duality, wouldnt that mean a dualistic perspective? The foundation is non-dual, you have no option of that, then anything you do pretty much lends itself to duality, all you have to do is be aware of this duality and see that youre not it. Its not some kind of lifestyle so to speak

You realise that OAN is heavily biased toward the president right, the clip i used was the actual Georgia Secretary of State along with surveillance footage of him literally explaining every movement. But if youre trolling do your thing, im not gonna argue with you

Referring to Obama as 'Kenyan man' is pretty racist, i understand you may need to drop the level of conversation for whatever purposes you have but please refrain from racism or any other prejudices

What do you consider good sources of news?

Ah cool, youve seen some undeniable evidence then? I got swayed by the numerous court cases that got thrown out, but what you got?

This is an easy go to usually from right wing, libertarian types, not saying you are that but thats usually who comes with this points, its an argument to make it seem like socialist policies shouldnt be pursued. Its lacking so much context its kind of ridiculous, there are many reasons why it didnt work in Venezuela, you can have a look into that yourself rather than using it as a check mate point - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Hugo_Chávez_administration#Cooperatives_and_economic_democratization One point for example is - "Since Chávez was elected in 1998, over 100,000 worker-owned cooperatives—representing approximately 1.5 million people—were formed with the assistance of government start-up credit, technical training, and by giving preferential treatment to cooperatives in state purchases of goods and equipment. There has been an increase in the amount of cooperative enterprises that have tax incentives in the new 1999 constitution. As of 2005, approximately 16% of Venezuela's formally employed citizens were employed in a cooperative. However, a 2006 census showed that as many as 50% of the cooperatives were either functioning improperly, or were fraudulently created to gain access to public funds." The main reasons it failed is that it was just poor management, corruption, no future planning. This of course is very likely in a country with high levels of poverty. In places like Sweden, Denmark etc, they also have a lot of social policies and have been pretty successful, not just financially but the citizens have more opportunities, less poverty etc

OK sorry if i missed it, so your solution is things like what Kapernick did, even though he was still demonised by the right and got sacked from his job. The other thing was to celebrate successful black people, this is done but probably not enough, theres a history of suppressing black inventors for example, these things arent taught in schools, mainly youre only taught about slavery in the context of black history. This can have not only a psychological effect on black students but not expose them to the knowledge of how successful some black people have been, which means they dont think they can achieve these things themselves. Even so black people do celebrate other successful black people its just not talked about in the mainstream as much. So youre suggesting things that have already been done, these are already part of the movement yet high levels of inequality, or if you like an unfair playing field, still exist, so question is should people just leave it at that and accept the unfairness or should they do something else and if so what should they do in addition to what theyre already doing, which you said were good things

Exactly, this is what i see constantly from people like Shapiro and Peterson, theyre very good at the criticisms but they offer no alternative solution. I have many criticisms and suggestions for blm but my aim would be to improve the movement from my perspective, not question whether or not it should exist

Again you still havent provided any solutions for the issue youve raised. I also agree consciousness is important to raise, but if people are in poverty and survival mode that is almost impossible to do so therefore you would want to raise people out of poverty or help them to raise themselves out and then you can work on raising consciousness. But i take from what you wrote that there shouldnt be an effort to move to a more equal society because we arent born equal and we should have to compete. Ill go with you on this for a second, lets say you and me are competing in terms of who can make a million the fastest, if youre born into a poor family who cannot afford private education, are scraping by a living, dont teach you anything about starting a business or a trade etc and im born with every luxury imaginable, i go to a private fee paying school, my dad has connections that get me a great job, i get money to buy my own house and start my own business. Its not really a fair competition then is it? If you believe in competition surely you would believe in fair competition, at the very least everyone getting the same education, medical care or justice right? These are the things people want when they talk about equality, if you want a meritocracy then follow it all the way through and youll inevitably end up with a more socialist society

OK so youre saying do nothing? You have to really be specific here and im gonna push you on it because its the crux of youre argument, youre saying what not to do, that has merit, but also it doesnt usually work. The example i gave earlier was Kapernick protesting peacefully which he got a lot of hate for from the right, they said that he should not have disrespected the anthem, flag etc. So we've established that a peaceful protest can be and was disregarded. The only reason why people are talking about BLM is because of the current protests many of which were actually peaceful. So i ask again what can be done, doing nothing has obviously never worked in history so i dont think that answer is valid. Also a fear that you wont be heard, makes sense as people havent been heard that is the point

I think youre kind of dismissing this question and it is very important for your topic. Youve highlighted criticisms of blm which is cool, but then you have to look at what was the purpose of your criticism? You agreed there would be a need for something like blm but youre not happy with the current movement, so what would you do differently or how would you address the current disparities of race or at least the discontent people feel? If you cant answer these questions i dont think you should really criticise as you cant come up with a better or even a different solution yourself. Otherwise the end point of your criticism is just blm is bad