Consept

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  1. The more i think on this topic the more murky it seems to me in terms of how you even judge intelligence. A persons intelligence is adapted to whatever the environment is around them, for example African or South American tribes that were around a few 100 years ago, must have had incredible intelligence in terms of their environment, they would know what slight changes in the wind meant, been able to hunt, how to track etc etc. These wouldve evolved and wouldve been learnt over 1000s of years, to then suddenly rip them out of this habitat and judge them as intelligent based on a world they had never experienced is almost insane. It wouldnt even work the other way, any of us now who had to live in that envioronment probably wouldnt last very long. So it stands to reason that the ancestors of these tribes maybe at a slight disadvantage within the western world, however the adaptability of humans is phenomenal as there isnt much difference in iq and this is shrinking as conditions improve. But its even more murky considering how mixed up everyone is, especially in America, most white people will have african dna and vice versa. As well most south Americans will have european DNA so to separate the races and say one is more intelligent than another really seems kind of an impossibility. In reality the more interesting questions are things like, what affect does poverty have on intelligence? or what parenting style produces more intelligent kids? Are there certain areas that have higher IQ and what might be the reason for this?
  2. I second this, I havent been able to find any scientific research that confirms and can say for sure that one race is innately more intelligent than another but im curious to see if there is actually any evidence to back this up. As i said before it is so hard to get a study thats completely independent of environmental factors it could be near on impossible to find. Maybe if you had children of all races growing up together in the same environment maybe a foster home or orphanage and then tested their intelligence and one race always stood out that could maybe be something. But I can imagine anything that proves this will be very difficult to find if it exists, but always open to changing my mind
  3. Thought this Forbes article might be relevant to your contention - Statistics Show IQ Disparities Between Races. Here's What That Really Means Yes. there are differences in measured IQ between various ‘races’. But what if anything do these differences mean? One cannot accurately and meaningfully compare scores of people with differing experiences health status and educational opportunities ( see the answer to the question Why is African IQ so low compared to Asians and whites? below).” If IQ tests are being used to compare individuals of wildly different backgrounds, then the variable of innate intelligence is not being tested in isolation. Instead, the scores will reflect some impossible-to-sort-out combination of ability and differences in opportunities and motivations,” writes Brink Lindsey. Moreover, IQ is not a measure of inherited, permanent, unvarying intellectual potential. Although it is often discussed as if it is. It does measure, albeit imperfectly, how well one has mastered certain intellectual skills such as literacy and the ability to analyze and use basic math. People who do this less well than others may have intellectual deficits or they may be suffering from poor educational exposure, trauma, poisoning or even from poverty. So IQ is a useful metric for perceiving such limitations, but NOT for discerning that one has a genetic or permanent intellectual decrease: unfortunately it is routinely interpreted in this manner to claim the innately lower intelligence of dark-skinned people. In evaluating the claims by hereditarians with known racist ties of higher white and Asian IQ, we must be mindful of a tendency called the ‘Pygmalion effect’ The high intellectual achievement and IQs of whites and Asians may owe something to this. In a classic 1960 experiment, California teachers were informed that as a result ofIQ test scores, certain students of theirs were found to be “special,” with prodigious potential and the expectation of intellectual greatness. Accordingly, the grades of the children labeled “special” improved dramatically, and, when tested a year later, half of their IQ scores had risen by 20 points. In fact, these children had been chosen at random, and the improvements in their scores served to demonstrate the outsize role that teachers’ expectations can play in a student’s academic success. Also, in 2005 we saw an example of this effect when Broward County Department of Education which had formerly assigned children to normal, remedial or gifted classrooms solely according to their teachers’ assessments, began administering standardized tests to all second graders. The number of gifted African American children in the district soared 80 percent, and that of gifted Hispanic children immediately skyrocketed 130 percent. Shortly thereafter, the policy shift resulted in a tripling of both black and Hispanic “gifted” students. None of the students’ genes had changed. It’s worth noting that some point to the fact that some Asian populations, not whites, are accorded the highest scores and point to the fact to counter accusations of racism. However not all Asians are accorded high scores, and the higher scores are use to reinforce the model minority myth— and to demonize Asians. Frank Wu who wrote Yellow: Race in America Beyond Black and White points out that “Asian Americans are brought into the discussion only for the purpose of berating blacks and Hispanics.” He also notes that the high IQ scores and intelligence accorded Asians is also subtly turned against them to characterize them as lacking creativity and as unfair competitors who are clannish and unwilling to assimilate. Meanwhile the gap between white and Asian IQs continues to grow, with Asians outstripping the growth of whites’ IQs. The average gap between African American and white IQs is narrowing, which some ascribe to greater access to higher education but more study is needed to understand it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2019/08/14/statistics-show-iq-disparities-between-races-heres-what-that-really-means/?sh=3c77c4274490
  4. Yes I agree with what you say but my point is that you have to ask why are these Nigerians are the top 1%? It is usually environmental factors within Nigeria, the 1st generation immigrants would be from wealthy families who were able to afford to study abroad. There could multiple genius' living in the slums of Nigeria who would have no access to any opportunities and literally no chance to develop their genius. So this is why environment is so important. When you say top 1% it's the top 1% who have the means not necessarily the potential highest intelligence. OK I get what you're saying and I probably agree but the issue is there are so many variables and so much historical context that it almost becomes a moot point. It would also be just as likely that black people were higher in iq when you control for everything. You could also bring in that there are very few 'pure' races, as in if you do a dna test you'll most likely be a mix of a lot of different races, this is the case especially with african-americans, so then it's like what are you even testing? Overall I think intelligence is very flexible and dependent on environment, especially the parents. So if its believed by others that a certain race is less intelligent this can actually have real world implications as the children will be treated as such and it will be even harder for them to achieve if the world thinks they're stupid. So this is the issue with the thought process of one race being inherently better than another. I appreciate your attempt at the conversation though
  5. Seeing as you dont want to engage my points, you do realise that having stereotypes of black peoples intelligence does actually affect them in many areas, not least education where black boys are treated markedly different from a young age in comparison to their white counter parts, where theyre seen to be more aggressive for example, this leads to self fulfilling prophecy as these boys get labelled from a young age, which in turn leads to not doing so well at school. Heres an example of a 53 year old woman calling the police on a 9 year old black kid because his backpack brushed her and she thought he groped her - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/13/black-childs-backpack-brushed-up-against-woman-she-called-report-sexual-assault/ Another interesting stat is that here in the UK black women are 4 times more likely to die during childbirth, one of the reason being that healthcare professionals have an unconscious bias that black women can take more pain - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59248345 Just some examples on how spurious racial claims and bias' can have real world consequences
  6. @Heart of Space Hey man I know you're busy but could you address my previous post where I asked how you would account for Nigerian immigrants and second generation Nigerian Americans being more educated than white Americans. I also linked a study talking about how the gap between black and white kids in education is shrinking, coinciding with environmental improvements. Seems relevant to your points
  7. But we'd probably get free Yeezys so pros and cons
  8. I just want to get in some stuff before this inevitably gets locked. @Heart of Space How would you account for the fact that Nigerian-Americans are actually more educated than white americans, with 59% of them over 25 having at least bachelors degree compared to only 33% of white americans. I also found these interesting points from a paper that ill link to, i would like to hear your take on them - —When black or mixed-race children are raised in white rather than black homes, their preadolescent test scores rise dramatically. Black adoptees’ scores seem to fall in adolescence, but this is what we would expect if, as seems likely, their social and cultural environment comes to resemble that of other black adolescents and becomes less like that of the average white adolescent. 4 —Even nonverbal IQ scores are sensitive to environmental change. Scores on nonverbal IQ tests have risen dramatically throughout the world since the 1930s.5The average white scored higher on the Stanford-Binet in 1978 than 82 percent of whites who took the test in 1932.6 Such findings reinforce the implications of adoption studies: large environmental changes can have a large impact on test performance. —Black-white differences in academic achievement have also narrowed throughout the twentieth century. The best trend data come from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), which has been testing seventeen-year-olds since 1971 and has repeated many of the same items year after year. Figure 1-2 shows that the black-white reading gap narrowed from 1.25 standard deviations in 1971 to 0.69 standard deviations in 1996. The math gap fell from 1.33 to 0.89 standard deviations.7 When MinHsiung Huang and Robert Hauser analyzed vocabulary scores for adults born between 1909 and 1969, the black-white gap also narrowed by half. In a country as racially polarized as the United States, no single change taken in isolation could possibly eliminate the entire legacy of slavery and Jim Crow or usher in an era of full racial equality. But if racial equality is America’s goal, reducing the black-white test score gap would probably do more to promote this goal than any other strategy that commands broad political support. Reducing the test score gap is probably both necessary and sufficient for substantially reducing racial inequality in educational attainment and earnings. Changes in education and earnings would in turn help reduce racial differences in crime, health, and family structure, although we do not know how large these effects would be. https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/9780815746096_chapter1.pdf
  9. I have really tried to get my head around what Ye is trying to get across and the reasoning behind it, heres what ive come up with. So in the black community especially the african-american community there is a sense, and in a lot of ways its true, that black people have been taken advantage of and have always been under the power of other races. Theres a sense of powerlessness and also the effects of this have been seen through the last however many years in black communities. Specifically in the music industry black people have been constantly taken advantage of with ridiculous contracts where they sign away their publishing rights or are blocked in favour of white artists etc, as long as there have been black musicians there has been someone there to take advantage and make money from them. The most successful white artists you can think of in history, Elvis, Rolling Stones etc most likely ripped their sound straight from a black artist and repackaged it for a mainstream audience. So this is the context Ye seems to be speaking from, as hes experienced this in his own career, ie having to really fight through to release his music and probably more so in the fashion industry. Essentially he wants black people to be on a par with white people in these fields, in terms of the respect given. There is of course validity to this point but his anger seems to be focused on Jewish people who do have a lot of positions of power in these industries, but what he doesnt seem to realise is that who you know and networking has always been a massive factor in success and Jewish as a community have been incredibly successful in this regard. This doesnt mean that there is some conspiracy around it, its just humans acting like humans, it would be the same if black people had gotten into these postions of power as well, most likely they wouldve given other black people jobs or helped out friends etc. So he seems confused on this point, which i think is a result of just not being that in touch and not being able to think critically which is not a problem unique to him. The anti-semitism seems to come from some black-nationalistic rhetoric he may have come across which adds backing to his theory about Jews controlling him, so i think confirmation bias comes in here, hes essentially looking for a simple reason hes been treated unfairly. I would say hes also quite narcissistic, so this bleeds into it as well, with narcissism, theres an incredibly high level of insecurity underneath the hood and with him he wants to be special or seen as such and so he will always go against what is expected of him. When he said "George Bush doesnt care about black people" it went against the mainstream messaging, now with twitter someone will say something along these lines daily, so to really stand out, something like a black man supporting trump will give that same shock effect. I actually dont think this is marketing on his part, I dont think its that thought through, I just believe he has a drive to be unique and special, if the whole world is saying one thing he will say the opposite. Whats interesting is that very few people agree with what he saying but the platform and attention he gets is incredible, so really its peoples reaction to Kanye that makes him who he is, thats what he lives off. Saying all that, i think musically and artistically he is a genius and im not sure that could exist without the crazy, narcissistic thought process he has. When he dies i think he will go down as very interesting character who left a lot of beautiful art in the world.
  10. Great questions, this is something i always struggled with, however i feel like i have turned a corner with it after therapy and just generally working on myself. I think a key thing for me was accepting myself when i wasnt exactly who i wanted to be in the moment. I would struggle with anxiety and hate myself for feeling this and try and think my way out of the feeling, at some point i realised that it is a feeling and that side of me can be loved as well. There was also a lot about loving my inner child and giving him what he didnt get as a child, almost self parenting. How it shows up is just doing things for myself, making sure im healthy, doing things i genuinely enjoy, spending time with people who want to spend time with me and i want to spend time with them etc.
  11. I think its the same as any skill youre trying to master ie lets say you want to learn chess, yes the best way to get good is to play 1000 games, most of which you'll probably lose, but you will start to see patterns and get to know what works and what doesnt and slowly youll start to get better. However, youll hit a wall where you'll plateu if you dont start having a better understanding of the game holistically through theory and learning about why certain things work. I think you can replace theory for inner game in this case. If you just had the theory though, youd also get stuck when you actually play a game because you wouldnt be comfortable in a game situation and all the little basic things wouldnt come natural to you. So both are essential, personally i go more on the action side when learning new things and sometimes i feel my learning could even be speeded up if i could just sit down and do theory. But you have to see where that balance lies for you and if its all theory and no action you need to balance that out and step up your action.
  12. I honestly don't get the virgin thing, I'd probably go for the 20 body count out of the 2. More experience, she knows what she likes, you don't have to teach her etc. If she had a crazy body count, in the 100s I probably wouldn't go there, not on moral grounds but just because I would get the impression she's in the habit of multiple partners so it would be a red flag for a serious relationship
  13. @AuroraDream Again and respectfully, i dont think a company saying our highest priorty is to achieve something is the same as saying they have achieved something, especially in this situation where things were moving so fast. Think whether this would hold up in court if youre accusing them of lying, your evidence is basically 'they said they wanted to stop transmission, but they didn't test for it'. The truth is if you look into testing for transmission it's actually very difficult to do and can probably only be done once it's given out en masse. Your issue should be more with the government who I agree did overstate how effective I was on transmission. "Dr. Walter Orenstein, associate director of the vaccine center at Emory University, told the AP that the fact that Pfizer did not address the vaccine’s impact on transmission during clinical trials is not unusual, because transmission is a complex metric to measure. “It’s much more difficult to evaluate impact on transmission,” Orenstein, a professor of infectious diseases at the Emory School of Medicine, wrote in an email. “What is usually done is a randomized placebo controlled study, in which the recipients are ‘blinded (i.e., do not know whether they received placebo or vaccine.’” https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-pfizer-transmission-european-parliament-950413863226
  14. Your claim is that Pfizer were deceitful in that they stated that they tested for transmission, but actually they didn't and just said they did. The quote I posted along with the link show that there was never such a claim made by Pfizer, in fact the actual clinical trial papers have been available since Nov 2020 and they do not state anything to do with testing for transmission efficacy. Therefore if you were to take them to court let's say and you say, 'hey you lied about how effective this is at stopping transmission' all they would have to say is 'no we have our official clinical trials papers which have been available for nearly 2 years, that clearly say we were not testing for transmission'. Your case would definitely get thrown out. You could maybe point at governments or media if they misrepresented the efficacy on transmission, but you'd have to pull up specific comments. Either way your post was specifically about Pfizer and I don't think the position is correct.
  15. "Pfizer did not claim that a clinical trial for its COVID-19 vaccine was testing whether the vaccine prevented transmission of the coronavirus to other people. The aim of the drug trial was to study whether the vaccine was safe and if it prevented disease from SARS-CoV-2. Details of Pfizer’s clinical trial for its COVID-19 vaccine have been available online since November 2020. When the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced in December 2020 its emergency use authorization for the Pfizer vaccine, the agency said there was no data available on whether the shot prevented transmission from person to person." https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/oct/13/instagram-posts/alleged-revelation-about-pfizer-vaccine-trial-noth/
  16. I'm from the UK, same as Piers, and being for gun control or in fact outright banning of guns is a pretty mainstream position here even amongst conservatives. The upper class might argue that rifles should be allowed for fox hunting or shooting birds but it's not really a massive issue. British people actually think Americans fighting for their guns is pretty crazy. So this is more of a cultural difference. Piers is very slippery to pin down in terms of political stance but he's 100% not green. I'd say he's orange but right leaning, I disagree with Leo that he's mainstream orange as he got kicked off of mainstream channels, after some issues around racism and megham markle, which is why he's on this new talk TV channel that not many people watch.
  17. Piers is in no way green, green actually triggers him a lot, theres numerous clips of him using the same tactics he used against Tate against greens. In reality i think hes actually got a lot of common ground with Tate its just Tate had a few points that could be considered extreme and Piers laboured those points as thats what would work entertainment wise. Tate actually tried to sugar coat the world view he normally projects, which i dont get, he might as well've doubled down on it as hes not got much to lose. But as they were both trying to 'win', Piers definitely won as he framed it exactly how he wanted to and got Tate flustered.
  18. I dont know much but i know thats definitely how genetics work
  19. According to 23andme im 6% Ashkenazi, my question is, is that enough to get into the club?
  20. If I had to rewind and lets say i was 21, I would educate myself on how money works in terms of if i make money where to invest it, Id learn a lot about property, stocks and take risks by getting into them early. Looking back I wouldnt really change things because i did learn a lot, but there are definitely some things I couldve done differently which wouldve sped up the process - - Really work out if a business is capable of making money. When i started I had a lot of projects which were good ideas but quite hard to monetise, I created a couple of music based websites. These worked but it was just hard to make money from them and i ended up spending a lot of time on something that would either hit really big or not be able to make money. So I found that i need to be clear on what i want to do and if i want to make money it has to be a tried and tested model that i can then adapt and make it work for me, rather than something completely new. If you do have a passion project its better to either try and get funding for it if you can sell it to others or make money first and then fund it with that. - Know when to stop and also be brave and know when to take the next step. As I mentioned above I shouldve stopped those ideas years before i did, the other side of it is if you have something thats working you can get comfortable and just keep milking that cash cow but there i always other opportunities and sometimes you can make a lot more if you pivot somewhere else. For example i was making decent money on ebay and i didnt see the point of learning how to sell on amazon as i was already making money but when i finally did i changed how i did everything, the workload was much less and i was making 7x what i was making on ebay. So always be looking a how you can improve and dont get comfortable, this can be very difficult. - Reading books and just in general learning, I wish Id done more of this but this can really just boost your mindset and make it an almost inevitable that you will do well
  21. Just for the purposes of discussion as ive seen this debate come up a lot on the youtubes recently. Whats the most important quality Men can have in terms of attracting women - Status Money Looks Charisma/Personality Great Body Masculine energy Any attribute ive left out just let me know, not necessarily talking about pick-up this can be just generally how attractive a man is perceived to be. Also obviously all are important to some degree, you can list in order of importance as well
  22. There's the basic investment view of it in that if you did have 100k in the bank and put it in something that could make 10%, you'd make 10k that year. This can compound to more and more every year assuming you don't touch it. You could put 1k in the same investment and it wouldn't get near 100k, whereas if you had more money to invest you'd make even more. It's all about scale and a lot of times the more money you have the more you can scale up and the more money you can make. A lot of people would say if you have 100k in the bank you should invest in yourself in terms of skills, which is true, but this will also be an example of money making money as the money is giving you skills you can use to make money. Also the strange thing is that when you get more money things start getting cheaper. A great example is banks and credit card companies can actually pay you to spend and keep money with them, you can get discounts on things, you'll also be able to borrow money cheaply etc. This is because you have enough money where their business has to become competitive to get it. On the flip if you haven't got much money you can get charged more for borrowing or going over your account limit, so the gap can be very wide.
  23. Money makes money, more money makes more money
  24. Not to tear down your plan but I dont think you should focus on spirituality just because your financial plan doesnt work out, connecting spiritually is a thing you should strive for to be a part of your life whatever you do, not an escape or back up plan.
  25. I think men and women both do this, its just a feature of being insecure so you bring someone down to build yourself up