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@erik8lrl Yeah that makes, the reason I'm asking is these are the stories https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/04/16/three-coronavirus-whistleblowers-still-missing-two-months-12563906/amp/ But could be that they quarentined them

Definitely not me ???

Ah right ok good question. So the absolute most important thing i think in business is your mindset, if you want to be an independent financially free person you have to think in that way. What i see a lot from teaching people about Amazon fba for example is that they have the job mindset so theyre asking questions like how many hours will i do and how much am i likely to make per hour, when you work for yourself it definitely doesnt work like that, its like youre hunting for your food, youre not an a zoo just getting your daily steak. So you have to do however many hours is required you dont clock in and clock out. So this mindset holds them back because they just dont see it as possible even if they pretend it is their actions dont show that. So thats definitely the biggest hurdle to get over and you can do this by seeing others that have done what you want to do learning their stories and then maybe just dipping your toe in to prove your concept. In regards to if there is enough money out there, there definitely is but it comes down to research so what do people want, can you get a good price for it, where can you find a niche. For example if your passion is boxing and you want to sell boxing gloves what do people that buy them want from them, have a look at the reviews what are people complaining about etc. The fact is its definitely possible because people are doing it so you just have to be resourceful and find out how you can as well. I dont think its competition that holds people back because there are too many people that start things and dont follow through so this then confirms their theory that its not possible. Id say in my experience its mindset, just as a little example, ive been doing alright on amazon and some people know this if they ask i encourage them to do it and offer my advice, i mustve told at least 20 people in detail how i make money and how they can do it, some have even paid me, do you know how many are actually doing? none, most never tried and the ones that did were making money but it wasnt quick enough for them and they didnt see it as a business. In fact i started the podcast below because i was tired of wasting time telling everyone that asked and them not even follow through, i thought ill just record it once and direct them to the podcast if they still got questions im happy to help

Im not sure exactly what you mean, are you saying that theres a finite amount of money and we all need to go and get it or something like that?

I get you, you know what put me off him? i was watching his video and he started talking about how he doesnt work out but when he did go the gym he could do 700ibs on the leg press, this lasted about 5-10 mins. I just thought thats cool but im not learning much lol. But theres no reason why you cant find someone who teaches financial freedom and you resonate with, i do amazon and ebay and i learnt from the start up bros and i also really like wholesale ted - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC8wczy7734jKPhiR2UkS9A

Well technically i didnt choose to think the thought it came automatically when i saw the post, i accept the download because i know nothing

That would assume you have a leaning already, if you have an open mind then you could learn from anyone and anyone could resonate with you or not resonate with you

I get you but i didnt say i didnt like him i said didnt resonate with him. Thats a completely subjective thing, for example i didnt think i would resonate with Tyler or even Leo but the more i listened it just made sense to me, but then theres turquoise gurus i dont really resonate with that people love. The best business mentality ive seen is Gary V i dont watch him a lot but i can feel where hes coming from. Also Max does do a pretty solely business channel now.

I never really resonated with him but i like other rsd guys, tyler, julien and max. But if he resonates with you theres nothing wrong with that just obviously same advice with any teacher dont take what they say wholesale

I absolutely know that i know nothing

Don't know what it is that's why I'm asking

I don't know too much about this, so all I heard a lot of people that 'disappeared' were exposing what was happening in wuhan, is this not true?

Its definitely true and important to recognise them for your growth. For example if you were bullied as a child maybe you became a bit of a bully afterward to cover how you felt, but then what happens to the child that was bullied, his voice gets covered up but that voice is still you its just been repressed. I think its definitely worth looking into, i mean i dont know about all the magic but the fragmentation can be a great tool. I think Diamond net and Teal Swan have some good videos about it

@Seb G Is this not similar to fragmentation, like when your ego is fragmented and you have different shadows? For example you thought you had to be really masculine when you were young so that fragments the feminine side of you Also ive done this with a therapist before where they asked me what is the inner child thinking and then what would he say, or what is anxious part of you saying. I would talk for them and theyd all have their own motives and things like that, it was quite interesting actually. But i think ultimately youd want to accept all these parts of you and integrate into one, i wouldnt see the point of trying to find different personalities and labelling them unless you were doing it because they were buried in you and you were trying to accept them

You could think of consciousness as the radio waves and the human as the radio. The 'im aware' feeling is consciousness inhabiting the human body, we feel we're aware because the human brain is advanced enough to be aware, but for consciousness to realise that it is truly consciousness it cant do it on a mind level. Same way if the radio just thinks its a radio it wont be aware that it is in fact the radio waves if its attached to being the radio haha

In light of everything going on with how news, mainstream and alternative, play up narratives create theories etc I was kind of looking for something that explained. Now at first I didn't think this doc was the best example because the producers are basically alt right, but this works on 2 levels, one is explaining how the idea of framing works to give you a narrative but also two, they are literally framing a narrative before your eyes, watch how they present each of their subjects and stories and notice how you feel about them as it unfolds. Please watch this from meta level, I'm only sharing this here because I believe people on this forum are capable of that

Just so you know these are all of Ceravichs false claims that he's put out over the last couple years, are we realistically saying all these are true or is he someone who's spreading misinformation for whatever his reasons are - https://www.mediamatters.org/maga-trolls/mike-cernovichs-far-right-conspiracy-theories-bigotry-and-association-white#1

@LaucherJunge right but then can't I say you expect perfection from the mainstream media? Whereas you give the people anti media a pass because they're fighting against the mainstream media?

@LaucherJunge If you were wondering why pizza Gate was at the beginning its because the Ceravich guy was the one who really pushed that and made it go viral. In the segment there basically showing that it wasn't true but hes showing he's smart enough to make it appear true, that why he says its like pro wrestling you can say whatever

@LaucherJunge I know she what she was talking about, I'm saying it's convenient they spliced it in next to the Alex Jones bit, she doesn't have that opinion of Alex Jones but the documentary is trying to make you think that. The documentary is about framing but they also frame things themselves. Do you not get this?

OK this was what I was worried about, yes you're right all your points are valid but really think about this doc. It's about framing, they say if you can get there first and get your point accross your side will be perceived as right. This doc is a framing exercise, think about the first Alex Jones section, he's framed as a clown (hes literally wearing a clown mask) there are weird shots of him just making faces, this is showing us that he's not serious like he's all a joke, then shows him being a fearless journalist who stands up for truth. But he's himself has framed others wrong or lied about certain things or exaggerated his points, but now your opinion could be changed because he was framed initially as someone harmless and then someone who only cares about truth and challenges things. Did you also notice the woman that did the red pill doc was cut into the Alex Jones bit saying you need people to be fearless and question things, she wasn't talking about Alex JONES!! She never mentions him most likely she was talking about herself but she's cut in to add weight to the framing that they're doing. This is the case with every part because every doc is nothing but a frame. Trump was framed in that were trying to over exaggerate the opinion on him, mainstream media calling him a monster and playing faux scary music, so that you think it's kinda exaggerated all this trump bashing. It's it probably is exaggerated but there are many examples of him saying crazy things and you could paint him as a monster you could also paint him how they painted him. If you agreed with the doc and felt the way it wanted you to feel then their framing has worked on you. Framing is used by both sides it's a tactic, almost like a war tactic. If you think about it the alternative media is almost like rebels so they use guerrilla tactics, so they can throw more unchecked misinformation and lies out there because they're not in power. The mainstream are so they have to be a bit more subtle, they can't outright spread lies but they can manipulate truths to make you think differently about something.

This isn't a conspiracy theory per se, it's more looking at how theories or narratives get power and people start believing them. But I think it works as an actual example of framing in of itself. But delete if you don't think its appropriate, I'm more pointing out why conspiracies and fake news exist and what there origins are, because people really do believe in conspiracies and it confuses the shit out of me as to why

Its not really an either or situation as in you have to choose enlightenment or knowledge you can definitely have both, but you have to know how to differentiate between things like speculation, relative truth etc. The problem with conspiracy theories (and i dont want to debate them because of done too much of that recently) is that they are not looking for truth they are looking to confirm their hypothesis, if you supply evidence to them, cognitively it wont be accepted because they have already decided what is true. For example someone might have a theory the earth is flat and use some sort of science to prove that, a scientist might come along and disprove them and show the science for why it is spherical. Now logically if you have accepted that science is a good way to prove this then if the science tells you its not true you should move on or if you like bring other evidence you have. But if you are already 100% certain that youre right you will look at how you can still be right with this result that youve received (this is done subconsciously), so you then might think, what if this person was paid to cover this up? Then you might look into governments covering up things, you might find something unrelated but true like mkultra and then go hmm maybe they did something shady here. Then down the rabbit hole you go. So something that was just a simple science thing of proving it one way or another has now turned into a full blown government conspiracy simply because the initial result could not be accepted. Do you see why these can be a waste of time? Having said that its worth knowing the truth about something that interests you but very important to do it without confirmation bias. Today someone sent me this - CDC as proof that vaccines are not safe, the claim is that the CDC failed to supply evidence that vaccines are safe at a court case and in some memes it says they lost a court case and people are speaking this as truth. There is very hard evidence to say that its not the case in terms of court papers of that actual hearing online. Im not gonna link the papers because i reckon you can probably find them very quick (let me know if you do) if you see how quick this can be disputed and how many people will go on saying its truth, is it worth even engaging in conspiracies? Maybe the answer is yes for you for now, but just watch your bias

No worries and of course try anything you think will help, I was just saying what helped me, like i said no right or wrong

Hey, books are cool but obviously focus a lot on the theory. My experience is its best to see this play out in action which is why ive linked to channels below that do street epistemology. I think in general though its better to not think of things in black and white terms as in something is holistically good or bad, its better to see why thing A could be seen as good or bad and why opposing thing B could also be seen as bad. You yourself dont have to have a solid standpoint, however after a while researching topics in this way you might find that you lean toward one side because of the evidence however you know the flaws in whatever side that is and the positives of the other side. Your mind will always be open to new evidence so you dont build up an attachment with any one perspective. So its building a comfort being uncertain at no knowing, because realistically saying you dont know is the only logical answer to most big questions for humans, the fact everyone 'knows' something different that contradicts with another person with an opposing view shows us that most of us at least, are mistaken when we say we know something. Anyway here are they videos, the guys doing this are atheist but of course there a limitations to being an atheist and i suspect you could probably even dismantle some of their beliefs such as their idea of consciousness or that the self is real. But i think these are still great demonstrations of Epistemology in action, you can us this method to question any belief you yourself have (i linked one of their vids random but check their channels for more) -