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My stance isnt fixed and nothing is as simple as good or bad, so i acknowledge what you could call good and bad things happen in the world. My point is that we all tend to focus on negative things which creates a reality that seems terrible when the truth of now is that its not as bad as we 'think' its just the positive side of perception is overlooked. To answer your question im not trying to hold on to a belief that the world is always amazing, im just trying to look at the whole thing. If a major disaster happened then i will feel how i feel in that moment i wouldnt ignore it. But humans always have a drive toward growth so if something terrible happened there would still be growth toward something better. What would you say is an accurate perception on the worlds progression at the moment?
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@Husseinisdoingfine well they won't be found in that video that's been edited to an inch of its life
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No ones saying to stay in a comfort bubble, theres lots of bad stuff happening in the world and my intent is not to deny that but to be grateful and have perspective of how far we've come. The trajectory is toward positive development, that doesnt mean get complacent or ignore suffering but dont dwell within fear that things are terrible and always getting worse. Even within the developing world things are improving - https://www.vox.com/2014/11/24/7272929/global-poverty-health-crime-literacy-good-news Raising consciousness means looking at things from a more complete perspective and i think because of survival instincts and bad habits we loose the full perspective and only focus on negative, all im saying is its far from the whole picture
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Ok so do you think there was a better time in history for humanity as a whole, or a time you wouldve rather have been born? I dont know what the world would be like in the future and of course it continuing to get better relies on constant change. My point was was that we should take stock of where we are now compared to the past instead of living in fear constantly.
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@DrewNows I was being a bit sarcastic lol but always love anyway ??
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@DrewNows I'll be honest I have looked into a lot of this stuff and come to the conclusions I've come to. But of course there could be a higher position of which you're saying your at, where these facts and worldview that you have come together and create this reality you speak of. Maybe I'll have some kind of Awakening and one day find out, very excited as it seems a fun place to be. @Zanoni ????
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Consept replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here Awakening is your direct experience being expanded so yes there will be more to your current direct experience if you had an Awakening experience. Saying that there are atoms doesn't add something and isn't 'more' it's just a way to explain and understand something that is there using structures your mind could comprehend. It's like if you eat an apple and have that experience, the experience itself is the thing and will give you the best understanding of the taste of an apple. Not a book that describes the molecular structure of said apple. These descriptions are limited and more of a tool than anything -
Consept replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here well because majority of you is made up of hydrogen, the rest is oxygen and carbon. Also these atoms are interchangeable within you, so the same atoms that made you you 10 years ago won't be the same atoms that make you now. So how do you exist in a solid way? -
@crab12@Leo Gura after a little research that's pretty much my conclusion too
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@crab12 the downside would be the relatively high amount of gun deaths. 40,000 every year in the developed USA. So you'd have to weigh that with the upside. Honest question I'm not sure what the upside is, could you break it down for me?
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Consept replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Just throwing it in there but did you know a hydrogen atom is 99.9999999999996% empty space? -
You might want to look into hocd, which is to do with having a fear of being gay. I think in general if you talk to a professional they'd be able to help you in this situation
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@Verdesbird Japan doesn't have guns, population 127million but less than 10 gun deaths per year. USA 360 million population, guns legal, everyone has guns, 40,000 gun related deaths per year, how do you square that?
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@DrewNows The problem is not changing what's around you because as I said from the top what's around you is literally the best it's ever been in human history (please dispute that if you don't feel its true) the problem is that you can't see that and you also can't see the progress that's been made. Your glasses have shit on them so everywhere you look it's shit. Do you say how tightly you and others hold onto this paranoia that your disputing this very thread, your intention, I'm assuming from the direction of your argument lol, is that you want to convince us that we are too positive and your view of being suspicious, fearful and paranoid is the correct view. People will always have theories about things its happened since whenever, people were probably skeptical of ww2 at the time. I found conspiracies interesting on a more psychological meta level like what is the over riding context of why people are so interested in them and obviously as you're within this paradigm you can only see the story of government hiding shit that will harm and destroy everyone, me and some freedom fighters need to warn everyone. But actually there are so many bias' mixed with fear of uncertainty, mixed with attaching your ego to theories. But anyway I'm sure you'll dispute everything I say and try and convince of my close mindedness in not researching the sky is falling down. I personally am grateful that not only was I born in the best time in history so far but in one of the more developed countries within that time and am able to access more accumulated knowledge than has ever been available in history. One day you'll see but I hope for you that you die before you die
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@DrewNows if you take a step back from your perspective you'd see you're actually arguing that fear and paranoia is the right or realistic place to be at. You're also suggesting that those not in that place are wrong and you either want them to be there or feel sorry for them that they're not. There's also the assumption that maybe I'm not aware of the 'evil' side as you call it, or I haven't researched anything. Fear and paranoia only exist within the mind. But anyway its your journey and I don't want to be hard on you, this is the experience you need to have so embrace it fully if that's what you feel.
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@DrewNows it's not a case of distracting yourself with fake positivity, it's looking at the enteriety of the picture. Fear and paranoia is in all of us for survival, just because it focuses on potential dangers in the world it doesn't mean that is the world. If you were born a king 500 years ago you couldn't even fathom the life of the average person now. As much as you want to hold on to whatever you want to hold on to you can't deny progress has been made. It hasn't been made through fear and paranoia it's been made through people that are able to see through it, those who were fearful have started wars and have generally slowed down our evolution because their view is narrow. But of course you maybe unconscious of this dynamic at play and think that everyone who doesn't see what you see is blind, but maybe they do see it they just see more of the picture
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@Jacobsrw Yes good points, intuition is a tricky thing, because something can definitely feel right or feel true but then later be proved wrong, I mean this happens constantly and in a way should happen as we develop both individually and as a collective. I mean look how many people were 100% positive that Lance Armstrong didn't take drugs or that OJ didn't kill anyone. I'm always weary of any anchoring to one type of thought or one person because it limits growth. You're right about bias, they are so influential and there are literally 100s of bias' that affect us at all times, so to even make a bias free judgement you'd have to be aware of all of these. Consciousness is everything, and pratically its the perceiver, so to view something from this perspective would have no bias but there are not many people on the planet that can do that all the time and the ones who can, probably can see the pointlessness of even having or arguing a perspective. The best we can do is try and look at things objectively as possible, which even that is difficult but there should be a conscious effort to put truth above everything even yourself and your bias'.
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I think you can have an intuition that someone is awake, but that doesn't mean that everything they say is coming from a deeper place or that their ego doesn't take over sometimes. They are human so different states pass through them as it does us. I think a good skill to develop is not working out who's awake or not but to use your intuition on everything they say. For example Osho says some crazy materialistic things but he also shares deep profound insights, why even label him as awake or not? We can't look inside people's minds. I particularly like Mooji and Paul Hedderman but just because they often say things that resonate with me, if they said something crazy like the earth is flat I wouldn't think it might be true because they said it. I see a lot of bias toward certain people and I get that maybe they made you understand something or took your consciousness higher and that's a good thing, but you have to see they are just people and you particular experience with them may not be them at all, furthermore we are all constantly changing. No one is sacred, anyone can get it even Leo
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Hahaha funny (I'm going to be careful of how my English sounds as I don't want to be on your list). I'm from the UK and I guarantee you there are accents here that even if you had a full conversation with the person you wouldn't catch one word.
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Yeah this guys amazing, i saw a couple of his vids a few years ago but he didnt really post regularly, would definitely recommend though
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Its kind of like Vine if you remember that. The pace of it is more frenetic so it probably messing up your attention span, but the actual content isnt really toxic, id go as far to say its less toxic than fb and insta.
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Its not really an oversimplification its just that im not speculating. Even if you are right and lets say they double what vaccines currently make to 48 billion lets even say they make 10x more so around 240 billion its still not even 20% of total income from Pharma per year. Realistically the vaccine will most likely be taken by over 65s as it is now with flu shots, maybe more people will take this one but either way its not gonna make much money relative to other pharma activity. The extra payment for corona diagnosis is a payment by medicare to cover the extra costs in America, im assuming in places with socialised healthcare that will come from the government, so are we saying to make money the government is paying hospitals that it funds anyway extra money, who is benefiting in that situation? In the US in 2017 the average medicare would pay for someone who had a respiratory disease was 13k anyway going up to 40k depending on treatment, there is an extra 20% with covid but thats about it, not exactly a genius money making scheme that warrants losing billions in the economy. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
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Teach me enlightened one
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I mean the uptake rate for vaccines is usually around 90% anyway, so youre saying all this for an extra 10%? which would be what maybe 4%, not even that, of what pharma make per year as a whole and still less than what alternative medicine makes per year. Add to that because of the financial crash Glaxosmithkline for example dropped to its lowest share price for 2 years, although its recovered now its still not back to where it was before the crash. So I dont really get the money making angle thats being proposed, is there anything other than speculation youre using to back this?