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This is interesting If sense of self isn’t there, who would be able to recognize “this is the truth”? Are you sure you had zero self there?

Babies are alive but they aren’t self conscious. I’d say being alive is the same as body being alive, it’s a state of the body. You can be in coma unconscious but still alive. But you KNOW you’re alive because you are conscious and understand the concept of what it means to be alive. A baby might be conscious but not of itself or the concept of being alive so it doesn’t know its alive

Beautiful I remember myself when layers to the self shed. It feels very expansive and like you’re connected to something deeper

I have a lot of self referential thoughts. Be it imagination of myself, or other thoughts relating to self. I found it to be energy draining in the past in particular when my self was denser. Nowadays it’s just what my brain does while it feels pretty neutral to my energy and anxiety level. Connects to my previous point. You can also be in a kind of “flow with yourself”, it’s very inward it’s like if you’re expressing yourself. That includes your sense of self in the flow state. “Presence” to me can mean different things. For me to forget myself I’d have to for example be focused on the external world, that could induce “presence”. But it could also mean being the “witness” as some in spiritual circles say. I don’t really know how to do that. I don’t know if it’s the same as the “observer sense”, which is the sense of self. Does cannabis make you loose connection? What does that even mean? So for him 5 Meo creates a flow state in lower doses by reducing the ego?

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Maybe you’re not revealing it in a charming way so it just comes off as weird

Anxiolytics meaning to combat anxiety? So they put you in flow states? 5 Meo dmt seems to me not related to flow states but it’s like a direct attack on the structure of the self

It costed but not much at all.

I could say that about other things in my life so I can understand

You got me there

I remember when I was in psych ward too. It was pretty chill, you got to chill all day, take walks, wear their comfy clothes (I even asked them if I could buy their cozy pants but I couldn’t) you get served pretty decent food and there’s a cafeteria you can go to . lol I lowkey wanna go back. Nah jk

Beautifully written as usual Would you say that the sense of self can be intact as a structure/form, yet it’s simultaneously seen through as not absolutely real, so one is abiding in the “substance”, the limitless, and seeing from the absolute perspective while sense of self is still intact? So it’s like everything is the same but it’s just “seen through” ? Or sense of self has to dissolve as a structure to be able to see the absolute?

Ok😆

What was wrong lol

Or contemplate the contemplator, that’s deep too

@UnbornTao Theres so much to contemplate…

I don’t know what you mean by returning closer to the self, and dissolving the upper layers. I have experienced dissolution of layers to the self.

Good for you Yea I don’t know why it seemed to help. I dont think it helps nowadays though I try to embrace the pain of exercise but it’s hard

I am no expert in this but i think this is quite polarizing. Some will think it’s off putting some will think it’s funny, I don’t know which group will dominate Maybe my answer lacks depth but I couldn’t think of much else

I was going to edit my post to say that it’s also in a way an interpretation, so yes I agree!

@DavinoLet’s say a severe case you get bullied in school by several people. I do believe that what they say can only hurt you if you somehow are insecure in it yourself, so for example if they point out your physical appearance, if you have no problem with how you look it won’t hurt you. But what can happen though is you can get very angry and irritated at the mistreatment and feel sad and exhausted because your boundaries are being overstepped and you feel unsafe and not respected. But that’s not really a matter of taking what they say personally, you’re just reacting at the mistreatment as a whole, not feeling hurt by particular things they say. That is reasonable and human.

It was very clear. I agree for the most part. I don’t know how to counter the first part of what you said, so I’ll let it be

Solid post In my experience one thing to help not to feel offended by others is to have your own standard in your mind for yourself that you follow. So you asses yourself and you are the one who has the most important opinion, not what someone else thinks And self awareness ties to this. So if you’re self aware enough nobody can surprise you with saying something they noticed about you, because you’re already aware of it. They can only feed the self image you already have . Or not, because you already feed it yourself

Yea but think like this. Okay maybe there isn’t something that “passes on” . But if this life could appear from my perspective, why , in ETERNITY wouldn’t another kind of life appear again from my perspective? Makes no sense that one life would be all there is all of eternity

I sometimes think to myself ok maybe my life is bad and occasionally I get suicidal thoughts but imagine how much more worse another reincarnation can be in the next lifetime (if there’s such a thing), like medieval torture chamber victim. Who knows what can happen so better not speed it up. Infinity is creative 😂