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What is the goal? Awakening? Breaking down the sense of self? If so, does it realllly matter if the thoughts are related to the brain or not. We can recognize the thoughts by themselves, how they contribute to or even are the foundation for our sense of self and sense of reality, apart from what we feel is just pure perception. Even if you find out that the mind is from the brain, you’re probably not gonna be able to do anything with that information, you’re not gonna directly alter that mechanism by intervening physically like a scientist. So you might as well focus on what you directly have access to and inquire about that, your mind in itself.

You don’t have to have your life figured out to be able to date. You don’t even have to be particularly confident inside. There’s people, both men and women, at every level in society, and I think people tend to be attracted to people and are attractive to people and compatible with those that reflect them somehow around their own “level”. So there is guaranteed people out there for you, I think important factor is just exposing yourself to people so you actually have chance to meet them. But in a way it tends to happen naturally, like if you go school you’ll notice people group themselves based on compatibility. The geeky might hang around the geeky and the more reserved people find each other and the more sociable people find each other. Usually there’s not so much excessive effort involved. That’s not to say you shouldn’t work on yourself, because if you’re unhappy about yourself it will make you suffer in your life and relationships. Like even if what I said above could sound comforting, if you don’t fix some things that’s bothering you inside or your circumstances you’re still gonna be unhappy. When you come to a point of being relatively content with yourself then I think the biggest factor is just meeting enough people to find a match So basically it starts from the inside, the best partners and most fulfilling relationships can happen when you start healing, becoming a better more fulfilled version of yourself… inside out not outside in…

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Perfect tinder bio

Reminds me of a snippet from a Swedish movie where a man goes to his neighbor and asks for coffe, and she ends the convo and is like “wanna fuck” and the rest is story… Damn maybe it’s that easy it’s just that we overthink too much

It’s cool to realize how much our brain controls our experience, to the point where even without psychedelics our brains can change something like our perception of our size. It makes me wonder what else is possible, what other perception of reality is possible to manipulate to improve our experience . For some it can feel isolating in a way, like our reality is really internally created

I experience this on a regular basis, although it never affects what I see visually, it’s just a sense of feeling physically big. It can feel weirdly comfortable.

I think most who are familiar with the idea of enlightenment expect it to be rare. That’s why people spend decades with spiritual pursuit, they hold it like a difficult goal. It can be seen as a trap, but on the other hand, if you’re a human in the human psychological realm, and you have enlightenment as a goal, isn’t it the most wise thing to pursue it in different means, even if it absolutely might not be possible? I mean we can feel for ourselves how rigid this “self structure” is, so it’s reasonable to assume it requires something strong to break down, like a consistent practice. Especially if we end up experiencing changes, it can confirm to us it is a good path to take. If we are honest to ourselves, we recognize if we’re not enlightened, so while we remain in this relative realm it makes sense to chose to do things that we think can attack it directly. What is even rarer is people who get enlightened , or at least get enlightenment experiences, without any practice at all, so an even bigger trap might be just sitting around waiting for it to happen. Because the human psychology is gonna hold something as a distinct thing no matter what, it can’t comprehend absolute truth, so might as well try to get as close to it as we can through concepts and a framework to work from. Basically at the end of the day we’re in this game of life, so might as we’ll play it wisely before we’re able to be free from it. We can’t deny that our psychology seems to work a certain way; and anything that has a way of working should have a way of working to undo it. Like how the sun rises every morning, it’s a certain mechanism, even if absolutely there’s no distinct sun. There’s also the possibility of doing things loosely, so pursuing enlightenment while also simultaneously recognizing it’s not REALLY possible, even if it’s a intellectual realization at first, that might help in further undoing this human structure that separates things into objects.

It should first and foremost be done from your own judgment

@No1Here2c Id say I agree with what you said. One could assess for oneself if one sees the possibility of going down a purely independent path, or if assistance through drugs and spiritual teachers could help. I think it’s wise to do both

It sounds great but you know why I’m hesitant

That’s great you’re able to focus on what you prioritize the most (consciousnesss)!

I’ve been on these two meds for over a year now. 5 mg olanzipine and 20 mg Prozac every day. Does anyone have something interesting to say or experiences to share about them? There are certain things in my current “personality” that I can’t tell for sure if it’s a side effect of the meds or how I am naturally, currently in my life.

Wow retired at such young age! That’s cool. How though? If you don’t mind Yea drastic changes in our consciousness can feel scary. But as long as we somehow end up finding a way of stabilizing we should be fine

I think the sedative effect is what I’ve noticed primarily; but I don’t feel much need for it anymore in same way As long as you’re able to feel decent without meds you don’t need them

Thanks. Yes I see the value in meds and I think they’ve helped to calm down neurosis a bit. But then if you do natural inner work then ideally I want to try to taper down the meds as I don’t want them if I really don’t need them. Yes and the tapering down is done with approval from doctor and gradually. I will be meeting doctor in 6 months but I’ve been wanting to call them prior to suggest tapering down. I think I’ll call them tomorrow Yes healthy habits is something I try too. Like for example one evening I drank two cups of coffe and I felt a bit anxious that evening (more than usual) so if I’m not fooling myself: substances affect us in good and bad ways. So I wanna eat healthy and I’m open to natural supplements

Yes I think it’s best when meds are not relied on but used in conjunction with natural inner work. Then when you feel okay enough naturally the possibility of tapering off the meds is reasonable to consider

Cool thanks. I’ve been contemplating calling the doctors and asking if I can taper it down, and instead of taking the meds every day I’ll have them as a kind of “when needed” meds like some people do. But I just have this feeling the doctors are gonna say “you need to give it more time first” “you shouldn’t stop meds now that you feel better” (but I feel better mostly because of natural change)

I would taper them down any day but you need doctors approval first.

From my experience, the meds have only provided a kind of sedative effect to a certain degree. Which can be nice but I’ve improved my stress management and lowered my stress naturally so I don’t feel I need them anymore. So I’m like you in that regard I wanna be natural , but I forgot how it feels to be natural

You provided me with a laugh at least 🤣 You don’t take any meds at all?

This might be factor to you missing out. Because some girls might not be the ones to take initiative (even if you know each other). Or they just aren’t interested ~as of yet~ but would be open/ they could see your potential if you initiated something. Doesn’t have to be explicit , could be just some flirting and teasing. You could try it and if you notice it’s an exclusively, very clearly, “friendly” response from her then you could tone it down. Also trying to build a deeper connection, even if it’s just in friendly manner to begin with. Some friendships are more shallow then others, so by bringing the friendship deeper/stronger it could be stepping stone to something romantic. And how to do that id say it’s about getting in touch with your unique authenticity, because you’re more interesting when you’re yourself (if you’ve developed yourself to some degree). Also “owning” your interest in her (could be expressed platonically to begin with), so she can feel you like her and vibe with her deeper and that she isn’t just another shallow friend that you talk about university to. Just some thoughts. I’m not the most social myself so it’s hard for me too

I am in a somewhat similar boat. I’m very busy with uni and sometimes I don’t feel I have time to go to the store, look for ingredients, to then make these vegetarian meals that I’m striving to eat. So I end up just eating whatever is at home (omnivorous) I think, eating decently healthy should be priority no matter what, it’s easy to make something like rice and chicken. But I think it’s okay to focus currently on what is most important to you, and then when you’ve got that sorted down. When you feel like you have enough time and are efficient enough: then you can go ahead and work on your second most top priorities : in this case a certain desirable diet. That’s my mindset at least.

Do you ask them out or initiate something romantic, flirt etc?

Yea right. I can kinda relate to this. I can have this underlying attitude of feeling like I have to entertain the person (can be a potential friend), not bore them, seem interesting to them, in order to build a connection. But then I catch myself and I think to myself “I like this person, I’ll allow that to be the basis of this connection, simply expressing my liking for them”. I don’t have to fill in all the gaps with talking, silence is okay, it doesn’t mean the convo is dead, it’s just a part of my current character to be a bit silent sometimes. Entering a flow state helps me socially, sometimes when I have just met someone I might feel a subtle sense of “having to force the convo” to keep it going, but then if I manage to enter a flow state , the convo flows and I feel in touch with that part of me that likes them and is simply expressing myself and the liking for them. Because you don’t wanna sacrifice authenticity in trying so hard to win someone over