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@Breakingthewall Nicely put Do you feel contemplation has ever made a difference to you? Because for me I feel I can contemplate reality how much I want but nothing changes. It doesn’t change my brain. It’s like I need something like extreme meditation or psychedelics

Is limitation just apparent, there being no actual real limits/separation?

It’s like any judgment is one of the limited ego so it’s false

So it’s like both nothing and everything Lmao me and my little self sitting here pondering these things. The absolute glory I wanna see the absolute glory

I can kinda confirm this. Because I’ve been in almost selfless states and it’s truly like there’s almost no center I resonate with this but why isn’t reality nothingness when there’s no center. Isn’t limitlessness nothingness?

I can be awake while my body is asleep during sleep paralysis. Also the mind is kind of in a dreamy/half asleep state too while I’m conscious. I have had spiritual experiences during sleep paralysis. But I guess it’s not the same as what you mean. But if you are aware of deep sleep doesn’t that go against the very definition of what sleep is? Sometimes I cannot really tell what state of consciousness I am in. I have had profound , all altering permanent shifts in my life. But I can’t pin point what changed. It’s like I can’t tell if I’m just experiencing a human ego as emptiness, awareness, or if I’m stuck in the illusion. Some seem to make non duality and no self synonyms. Meanwhile others talk about how there can be a sense of self while one is enlightened simultaneously Maybe me having doubts is a sign I’m still in the illusion. Because I heard someone say something I like : “non duality is this moment, without the doubt about it” Do you mean when we are aware of a rock it’s like it is aware of itself? It doesn’t sound scary to me It seems I can for example stop thinking for a very brief moment if I focus my attention on a sensory experience intensely. I can also control a thought. Like right now I could make myself think of a pink elefant But when I do think usually, it feels like the thoughts just come by themselves, being generated by my brain. Also I feel my sense of self is just here. Not something I am doing

Is that some mystical state one can reach? Well I feel awake, as the person. I thought that was illusion? I’m having a hard time isolating a sense of awareness that is beyond the self How is it fundamental to rocks etc? They aren’t conscious You seem to implicitly say that all there is , is what occurs in our present experience, thus you say consciousness comes first. I have been thinking about that. I don’t know what’s true in that regard. I think I would need a deep insight into reality to know Well the sense of separation is not something I chose to create. It’s just how reality seems right now from this perspective. I can understand how it can act like a veil. I don’t really get this but it’s ok. Just a detail

“State of being awake” awake as in not sleeping or enlightened? I am aware of my surroundings. It’s fundamental to being human. But it’s dual to me. I am aware of my surroundings as separate from me. How is this truth?

Why call it consciousness?

Are you able to just shit?

But then is that the same as saying that a tomato is the same substance as consciousness? Then we can’t use any relative concept

Thank you

Ok cool

I understand. For a human it’s a lot to stomach that even torture is “infinite love”

It’s ok For absolute majority suffering ends when we die Some even say enlightenment isn’t end to suffering So who knows The guy in the video I sent about mindfulness and pain has at least transcended the physical. But he had to go through a lot to get to that point I don’t know if Buddha achieved it in his life

So the awareness the person has is the same as reality altogether?

I can kinda relate. I have experienced flow of energy upwards in my body up to my skull like a release. Also a lot of energy felt flowing during sleep paralysis. Also having visions of the crown chakra.

Yes I understand. Enlightenment won’t necessarily lead to an understanding of the brain/mind (maybe they are relative concepts) Thanks for your answer! I resonate with what you write here on the forum, you seem genuine In my own life, I kinda have noticed how it’s my mind that creates or at least contributes to my sense of self. And it seems it’s the brain that produces the mind. And how it’s like also an energetic structure And I relate so much to what you say about the energetic tension! I have not experienced a ~total~ loss of self, but I have experienced a gradual weakening of the self, a kind of dissolution of some of the layers to it. And the softer it got, the less tension in the body and mind, it’s actually crazy! I felt it like energetic knots, particularly in abdomen for example. I do feel though that my brain/mind still does this activity of upholding the self, why it does that, must be just how it’s designed to do, idk If enlightenment is to do with the brain, then things that could rewire the brain such as meditation and psychedelics maybe can increase the likely hood of the self dropping…. Just my 2 cents

Thanks

It was before the partial loss of self

Well since you’re asking.. It sounds weird even for a forum like this but I experienced a gradual loss of self to the point of ending up almost without a center and I’d like my self back lol A normal person could have a negative self image but but I’d be content with a neutral one

Ok cool because you write very elaborate

I feel disconnected but not lost. I don’t know what your definition of “doing nothing” is. I am currently on vacation with family and I feel the same as when I am at home in my room alone I tend to be detached like that. It’s both a curse and a blessing The only thing I’ve found that has significant affect on my psyche is very intense cardio so I plan on doing that more when I get home (if I follow up on this plan, it can be hard to motivate myself to do it sometimes) Also psychedelics ofc. I have done only little bit of that but it’s risky at the moment, my parents caught me once and I live with them I have done meditation in the past consistently, about 1 hour a day, it wasn’t enough to produce mystical experience for me except maybe once, nowadays I don’t feel strong enough desire to awaken to get me to do that in large amounts. But that could be something that could affect my psyche if I did it

Same I was worse maybe a year ago

If I felt like I existed like a normal person