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Ok I see

Ok. Mm then I wonder too how it works. Dreams can be fascinating, an escape from reality too

@Princess Arabia if you do feel like a self , like I do too, then what’s the point of speaking in such ways what makes it seem true to you?

Yes

I meant that some say suffering is an illusion, so that’s what I was kind of responding too. As in, what’s the point really in saying that, what does it mean even. They maybe mean that because the self is an illusion, and it’s the self that suffers, then suffering is also illusion. But physical pain for example can be felt as suffering even for some without a self I’ve heard. And probably some mental suffering too. So that doesn’t entirely make sense.

Exactly

Yea And even with mental suffering that people say it’s just a “story” about a self that doesn’t exist. Still that is an appearance. Regardless what is ~actually~ real or not that misery is still appearing and being experienced so it does exist in some way can’t just disregard it.

Yes but misery is still misery that’s all I’m saying because some seem to say suffering is illusion like it’s not an appearance like anything else. Doesn’t necessarily need a self to be in physical pain for example .

If anything can appear then misery can appear

Happy temporarily? Long term? Permanently? Those would have different answers . It’s not all impossible but some things are seemingly for a human with a self. “The self is its own curse” a quote I came up with and it hits home damn

Ok I don’t know still but it’s fine

What does this mean especially second sentence

U sure it wasn’t sleep paralysis

I'm no expert but I feel like if you fear these things youre more likely to attract them to you so I feel the most important thing is to try to keep calm and grounded which youre already trying to do which is good. It's just this intuition I have regarding these things.

Western psychologists don’t even know what self dissolution is, the process of it, at least where I live. It doesn’t have a name they only know “derealization” etc any sort of thinning of the self and sense of reality is seen as something being not right

Ok got it yea I’d say the same about alcohol

@Chadders i wonder if the dog is conscious, whatever it is seems better than being human

As long as the dog is happy 👍🏻 it doesn’t mind the same route 🤣

Ofc. How else could it be

Lol i swear. People always have to refer and compare to other groups , it’s never just them doing their thing independently of judgment of others kind of.

I feel like each human have this like cycle they are in, and a lot of it is quite mindless as you say, and it can be hard to break out of and into something new, but why do it if you feel fine in your little cycle, like many seem to do, otherwise if they were so miserable they would try to change or maybe im wrong. Average is fine as long as one is cool with it themselves. Seems nice to me to be able to just mindlessly go along sometimes without having any major problem with it

I’ve thought about this precise thing although I have no knowledge of it. Interesting I have wondered if there are these “higher” beings (which would be the spirit guides you mention) that plan reincarnations on earth or if it’s all just spontaneously happens . And if there are different “levels” of souls like some souls are more developed so they reincarnate into more developed beings or something idk Why would any conscious being want to reincarnate into earth if we look at how much suffering is here so it makes sense that there might be these beings that pushes for it or maybe the souls are highly evolved so they see how it’s all love or whatever so it doesn’t matter to them what they reincarnate into. if there is even a soul I have no idea .

Idk I guess the mind will always try to serve the person best

lol u saw me change it you have a point absolutely . Those who are bothered by them also put pretty women in pedestal in their mind in a way

Whne salvijus see pretty woman