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That’s what this community is for

I think the openness you describe will lead to a gradual dissolution of the human structure, and all the neurosis that comes with it. Some non dual people talk about how there’s natural change to the human structure that happens after enlightenment. So in the end it will lead to what spirituality talks about, the elimination of the human structure, at least to significant degree. Because the human structure is deeply flawed in the way that it causes a lot of suffering, almost any pleasure except sensory pleasure comes with attachment, so it has its backside, when someone is on vacation they’re afraid of having to go home. When someone is performing well they’re afraid of failing. Even the sensory pleasures that has not to do with self image has a backside: addiction. It’s wise to want to eliminate this structure. Because a lot of what you are , are your attachments. So to undo the attachments goes hand in hand with undoing what you are. It’s attacking the source of your suffering : you. It’s just that the approach fails. Because spirituality becomes another idea to get attached to, another identity, so it’s acting from the same structure you’re trying to dissolve. Unless it’s seen clearly it won’t be transcended. You need a kind of different approach, and the openness you talk about is an example of a different approach. That goes beyond the human structure. And it will lead to its undoing because there’s no longer energy directed into its maintenance

Smooth rizz .

Same that’s why I changed my profile pic to a more anonymous one because if someone who knows me looks for me they can’t identify by picture

My parents found out about this forum as they’ve asked me and I’ve answered , otherwise I wouldn’t talk about it. Some of my family have a negative view about it, like they have a stereotype of this isolated person disconnected from the world that hangs out on online forums, like a loser or someone who risks getting radicalized. Some of it is close mindedness, like they have a set idea about something in society and views it negatively because of that. Also judging some aspects of spirituality as just being people’s delusions, which could be due to a lack of spiritual experiences themselves. Also a judgment of psychedelics as just feeding into people’s delusions and viewing anything significantly mind altering as “dangerous”. It’s like they have an idea of what’s normal and things that deviate are judged

LMAOOOO

I’m still waiting for the full alive and love part lol

It will all be intellectual if you don’t experience it yourself, regardless of what anyone said. I have had some spiritual experiences which have showed me what’s possible so that’s what I’m going from

Lol the insecurity

haha

I also thought it’s like “SOS mite aaaah” like someone is warning that there is a mite and is reacting by screaming aaah

It takes a special woman to recognize special men sometimes… Ceo as in Leo? LOL I swear when I was like 16 and started to watch Leo I have fantasized about him. I guess I’ve always been a special woman To not derail the thread….. Leo gura is a cool name because it sounds like guru

I agree! Usually I am doing okay, but in my worse moments I’ve researched methods and I always feel hesitant because I’m afraid of failing and ending up injured. I can’t access fire arm either so it’s not an alternative In my experience deconstructing the mind has helped me suffer less too! For me self love is difficult (and love in general) because I kinda suffer from depersonalization/derealization so my identity and experience of reality isn’t normal Something that has helped me is change my mindset into a more peaceful one. So both deconstruction and building mind can help I don’t have trauma affecting me luckily Thanks, I see your point. Sometimes though, thinking about how others have it worse can help in the way of “if they can survive that, I can survive this” I think my experience of emptiness relates to my kinda depressed state in the way that the psychedelic experience might reflect one’s normal state somehow Also when I tried psychedelics I didn’t dissolve the self completely, so my ego was still there to react to it. If my self was gone 100% maybe the experience would have been more alive like some describe

I try to remind myself that I could be in a much worse situation, what comes after death could be worse than this, so I do consider what you’re saying Did you find that your changed attitude about your suffering (about it being deserved etc) changed your experience of it? Like did it make you suffer less?

I find I can’t make my self “turn off”

How do you know they are imaginary?

It’s quite meta

It’s perfect if you wanna use this forum like a dating app LOL

LMAOOO that’s funny , I also thought there was something sensual about the “ah” like the “aaah” sound😂😂😂

@Natasha Tori Maru You look like you could be 25 in your profile pic

How you come to this knowledge, does openness to reality give you knowledge about how the mind works or can you be enlightened and clueless?

Isn’t the mind produced by the brain though so it has biological basis? Or is the mind like an independent thing ?

That’s cool thanks for sharing. I have recently been looking into legal substances to try because I live with my parents and they once found my drugs so I’m hesitant to try something illegal again so I’m glad when someone shares something like this. Sometimes I get astral projection and when I chose to travel down into the ground I can sometimes end up in this vast black space. I don’t consider it infinity though but I don’t really know what it is, I guess it’s my mind imagining an underground world

Maybe it is possible to get in contact with a being from a spiritual plane , under for example astral projection, and gain information from them about this. Developing psychic abilities may also help

Internal ≠ self created (according to me). We discussed wether it was self created, so it’s a different convo Lol Good for you. I’ll try to see to what extent I’m generating suffering too