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Ok . You said you’re like an all or nothing person. That’s ok, it doesn’t have to be perfect for now. Doing something once in a while is better than nothing. So if you find yourself able to go all in on something just to drop it later, don’t beat yourself up about it, it’s better than nothing. Embrace those moments you get motivation to do at least something You could start whenever. There’s no perfect moment. Is there something you could do ~right now~ that could be positive for you? It can be something as simple as making a healthy meal for yourself . Cleaning your room. Dancing, singing . Drawing

It’s probably because your mind is so full of shit, of neurosis so it’s like you’re not in touch with healthy desire. So you need to clean your mind from some of that shit , and it’s going to take work. You have desire to feel better right? Some healthy engagement could help you get your mind from spiraling . Something that requires your focus but isn’t as isolating as meditation. Like a sport or a board game or studies Maybe being in psych ward where they create habits for you would help It’s your choice but I suggest opening your minds to meds. A strong anti depressant or anti anxiety med could help in your case. You don’t have to take them forever : and if you don’t like the effect, you could stop, nobody would force them down your throat- you could at least try. It could be something that could give you short term improvement and make it easier for you to move towards healthier lifestyle and then you might no longer need them

Do you have anything in particular you desire? Could be anything like sex, friends, travelling, having mystical experience, getting a good physique. You could start working towards the thing you desire Whats bothering you the most? Is it your addictions, bad self esteem etc. Could start with working with that. For the average person it’s hard to have a healthy mind without healthy habits. So you’ll wanna lessen some of your bad habits and start with some good ones. Healthy engagement in healthy habit instead of unhealthy distraction (like excess internet) Also conventional meds might help you if you’re already not taking them. Ideally one wouldn’t be on meds but when it’s really really bad it can be one of the last resorts

She got blasted into infinity and never came back

You just created an account to casually debunk the entire forum #epic

I wonder the same about myself too. I know I have a sense of self. But I don’t really know what kind of state of consciousness I am in , in comparison to others. Someone on Reddit said “enlightenment is this moment, without the doubt about it” So it seems if there is doubt, then one isn’t enlightened. But maybe there are degrees to it, different kinds of awakening

What do you guys think about cbd for mental and physical health etc? I have googled already and it says there’s benefits but not enough research to conclude it with absolute certainty

Once I heard Eckhart Tolle say you can awaken under deep suffering. He mentioned how there was a man who awoke during the holocaust It seems under deep suffering there can happen an “inevitable surrender” of the ego that drops all resistance and you awaken and the suffering is transcended. The thing is though that this is extremely extremely rare. Maybe 0.0001% chance of this happening. So I invented a method Basically in order to actualize this 0.0001 % chance of this happening to you, what you’re gonna do is put yourself through absolutely extreme suffering Im talking do something like sell yourself to the Mexican cartel, or to sadists on the dark web. Or do something like David Goggins run so hard you break all the bones in your feet and end up with kidney failure, rhabdomyolysis, and pissing blood. Then you just keep putting yourself through this absolute torture over and over and again and hope for the best and sooner or later the “inevitable surrender” of the ego might happen and you actualize the 0.0001 % chance and you awaken and transcend the pain and the suffering is gone . And if it doesn’t work in this lifetime what you do is that when you die and reincarnate you just do it all over again and keep going over lifetimes until you actualize that 0.00001 % of awakening and transcending the pain You’re with me? Aight. That was my method. Enjoy (or not)

Jim Nooman lol It took several years. I don’t have the best memory but I went inward a lot, observed how my mind and identity worked. That’s like a foundation. Then I took action, facing my social fear by exposing myself to scary social situations. Because it’s like you have to face your dark parts of your psyche to be able to dissolve it/resolve it. So you have to seek out situations that trigger your fear in order to face it. But you can also face it alone because if you have a fear, it can be present even when you’re not directly in a scary situation Some contemplation too, about how my mind works. Some meditation, mostly to calm my anxiety down. So all of that made the negative self image dissolve. Then I just kinda became very authentic, because I stopped having insecurity, so it was no longer a matter of being attached to a nice self image, rather it’s just being myself authentically

Cool work It’s pretty wise if desperation leads you to enlightenment work out of all things lol I have done a kind of self inquiry of observing the self a lotttt and it has aided in dissolution of layers to my ego but it hasn’t led me to full blown enlightenment experience unfortunately so I’m interested in drugs

How you did for a week straight doesn’t that require like super human discipline? What kind of mindfulness practice? I guess key here is fanatic desire to awaken . Which I lack

I was joking a little but I remember you in a thread once mentioning how you got mystical experience quite shortly after some meditation or something : I think in the thread “genetic freaks megathread”. That’s what made me think of it I don’t get your second paragraph but it’s okay you don’t have to take time to explain

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Stop flexing you’re naturally mystic

I’m a little confused sometimes about makes people not end their life. It’s like, I’m not the only one who struggles, yet all people who struggle don’t get suicidal thoughts. There are even people going through worse than me who don’t consider suicide. Sometimes when my suicidal thoughts get stronger I can spend hours researching suicide methods. I even bought some things I could use to kill myself but I haven’t used them yet. Sometimes I feel “I could keep living through this” But then other times I feel, I have no will to keep fighting for life. I should just end it. It would be better So I don’t understand how other people don’t feel like this when they struggle. Am I extra weak? I mean I think I’m like the average person when it comes to how much I can tolerate. Or maybe not. I don’t know. I guess I just lack a strong enough reason to live Like some people have let’s say family they are attached to, and it keeps them wanna live. But I don’t have that, I don’t love anyone at all so I have nobody to live for. It’s like all I have is my own mind. Im stuck inside of this brain 24/7. All I have access to is a comforting thought that can give me some strength. But then my mind gives up and wants to end it all. It oscillates like that Edit: I should probably answer my own question. Why don’t I kill myself? Well mostly because my situation is not like absolutely unbearable yet, so I feel I can stand it for some time ahead. Also I am afraid of a failed attempt and the pain it can cause for example you could get permanent injury. Thats it mostly. Regarding the first point. I hear stories about people going through unbearable things, so they go through it even if it’s absolutely unbearable, I don’t know how they do. Suicide must have crossed their mind at some point

Thanks Maybe we have different experiences of how our minds work. Upon observation: Most thought arise automatically But that doesn’t mean we don’t have responsibility and power to stop it. Thoughts can be hard to stop because there’s attachment involved. And that attachment is built from societal conditioning, biological and neurological wiring. For example if you have a hard time stopping imagining your past cringe moments, it’s because you are attached to having a nice self image. So you need to dissolve that attachment to stop those thoughts from reappearing. Which can be a more longer and complex process than simply a temporary stopping of some thoughts (which can be achieved by for example shifting focus) . You can create a thought. It’s just that most thought don’t appear like that. What it took was dissolving attachment. For example: Attachment to having a nice self image: Creates fear of being socially awkward, creates fear of looking ugly, of seeming dumb. Once dissolved: you no longer fear those things. And negative thoughts about it won’t arise. The process of dissolving attachment can be a complex one so it’s hard to boil down the method. But “going inward” as in observing your mind was crucial for me. What I wrote connects to the other parts of your reply that I didn’t include here I am not 100% firm in what I write. I see some flaws here and there. For example when i say most thoughts are automatic, one could say: you are choosing to let them be automatic.

I have thought about this too. The mind creates context as an overlay for the present direct moment. What you’re directly experiencing is your senses, what you’re currently hearing, seeing etc. But the mind makes you feel like what you’re seeing is happening within something larger. But that’s only what the mind is doing. You don’t actually experience anything larger than the immediacy here.

You could also introduce someone to ideas of enlightenment and spirituality in case you spot they seem open, not everyone knows about it but it could open up a world for them and you’ll have something additional to connect over. I live in Europe too in Sweden it’s a quite introvert culture. So I see the struggle. We don’t really talk to strangers as much. Then it’s easier if you go to specific events where socializing is more accepted..

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It requires turning inward to see your own structure I think , which most don’t do

When you are deeply in touch with yourself and know yourself it’s easy to discern who’s for you and not, which you are Then it’s just a matter of exposing yourself to many people so you actually have chance to meet someone aligned. It’s a practical step, for example joining a group of people engaged in a hobby you like And importantly, to present yourself in authentic way where your depth gets to shine when you interact with someone, so the person has a chance to connect with the real you. Everyone might not show their deeper side at first but you can bring it out of them if you do, perhaps it’s more fitting to say so to a man, because stereotypically it’s more masculine to be the one leading the conversation and the vibe.

I agree. I noticed it myself I wonder why everyone wouldn’t seek enlightenment, because humans always want the best thing and enlightenment seems like the best. A thought is that the self is so dense that the person cannot intuit the possibility of enlightenment. I think it was like that for me, if someone showed me a talk about non duality 10 years ago I would probably not resonate, but today when my self has softened over the years I resonate with it. Same

Have you never desired a nice self image? I have had that desire for most of my life It didn’t work out for me though, a trap like many others. But I couldn’t help but want it, it seemed so good, but it’s only good for a little while, and it always has its backside… what you favor, you will fear the opposite. To seek enlightenment seems to me like the wisest thing

Thank you!