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Those deranged marriages….

So basically whatever is going on in your “pov” (visual, physical sensation etc) is that “everything” that is the “self” you’re referring to So could you say thoughts return to their most basic function, appearing in the minds-eye (maybe not even that for you), rather than infiltrating reality or something? You say “the idea that there is someone who chooses”, you mean the “choser” is an idea rather than lived experience? Maybe you’ve already implicitly answered this somewhere idk but I’ll ask anyways

That makes perfect sense to me in some way, just how I have imagined the most basic level of existence for a human (one step above total “nothing “ or whatever) Now suddenly it sounds like that complete undifferentiated nothing pov that’s not even a pov anymore , a bit confusing but it’s okay😂

I see it as information transferred between two people’s minds (I prefer word “psyche” sometimes because i think it’s a more encompassing definition that includes energies, meanwhile “mind” sounds to me like onlyyy stereotypical minds eye content) Two people could for example have the same thought in a particular moment if one person subconsciously interprets non verbal communication as you mention, so that is not how I define telepathy because it’s interpreting outer things rather than what’s “hidden” (the psyche). Many of those experiences could make one question if it involves telepathy, especially if it’s someone one feels connection to. So it can be unclear But then there are experiences that are very obviously psychic. Can be unclear whether the other person is aware of it, or sometimes whether the experience is rather another type of psychic experience (for example clairvoyance). Can happen in waking life or for example hypnagogic state. One of the most obviously psychic experiences I have had, is when I saw a digital chat message in my minds eye during hypnagogic state, felt an energy that felt like it would be theirs , then woke up, looked at my phone, there the message from them was sent a few min ago without notification noise….. I mention it because sometimes I feel it’s hard to communicate that what I’m saying is grounded on life experiences without using specific examples. Clairvoyance and telepathy seem to be able to overlap so it’s not super clear boundary there. Also I think there’s stereotype (I have thought this) that psychic stuff is either you are psychic or not, and those who are, can use it to their advantage. For me these things have happened spontaneously without my control..

Yea sometimes people be dissecting these teachers as if any expression of what they deem as “ego” automatically disqualifies them. Yea I also don’t agree with this overemphasis on thoughts sometimes. As if they forgot about “state” , maybe vague term but I’ve found for myself that thoughts can arise as reflections of a certain “state” ones in, can include emotional, whole body/being tension etc, so even if you would manage to quiet them down it wouldn’t have that powerful effect because the underlying “state” didn’t change much and so the tonight’s will continue eventually. Sometimes something more powerful is needed, like using the body, etc. So teaching could potentially be powerful but they lack holism to me sometimes. Also about this self thinking or not, I mean simply experientially, even in my most egoic states I felt like thoughts are so powerful and automatic there’s no way I can overpower all of that by chosing to “let go” mentally or something haahahah .

Teacher/teaching can be a loaded word so I see what you’re saying, but I dont necessarily use it in way that puts one above the other, just how we can help each other connect the dots. Ahahahahahha all these terms can feel confusing because we all have our own personal touch and interpretation to them. 😅

Thanks for the engagement ahah So many terms ahahah. Sometimes I find some of those spiritual terms when I look them up either are super broad in meaning or are pointing towards similar things, but I guess it’s expected at its practiced all over the world plus it’s describing less concrete phenomena so it’s harder to pin point.. But I think I can follow the main reasoning there because of these processes as of lately.. crazy what can happen inside. It’s special because before I used to find that my mind was the main thing I had at my disposal to be able to find some peace and clarity amongst chaos. But this energy stuff is like a completely different and almost completely new way to find that… and it seems to me even more powerful, at least so far Sometimes tho I can feel a bit too “open” inside like things are just flowing and I’m hyper aware of every little thought and disturbance in a way. Almost like I lack some “robustness” that can act like a stable point. Idk if that makes sense but could you find something relatable about that? I remember when we talked a little about feeling disturbed simply existing when we were younger, so maybe it relates to it somehow

That’s cool you share that, because I’ve felt how there’s something about your posts that resonated with me even though you’d mostly write these “snarky” things hahahahah (if i remember correctly). Even though Im not super keen on some of those terms, i do feel it connects quite well to my current experience as there’s been a lot of energy stuff going on lately, this kundalini thing that it’s called. And yea I agree, I think many people can be quite inhibited in their expression. Somewhat sensitive place despite being so supposedly “radical” ….

It’s not so healthy but it’s unique taste, very polarizing. I don’t know if there’s any difference in taste of the pig from different countries as I rarely eat pork but Sweden has better animal well fare than most countries so it can be better in that regard. Theres this thing called “raggmunk” it’s like pancake but savory, made with potato as base. I like that. Also meatballs with potato and lingonberry jam is nice ….

”his” you weird sometimes

Blood pudding is similar it’s based on pigs blood, flour etc It’s tasty it’s Swedish traditional food ahahahha😎

I’m suprised you ask. I say it based on clear personal experience. I can elaborate but maybe you just wondered about that, what I based it on. I have looked up the definition, so yea it is like it says when you look it up. Then there can be experiences that are not so clear if it’s mutual between two people or if only one person has ability to access info Maybe I’m making sense or not

I was taught religion too, but I questioned it early. Some minds don’t do that much perhaps…

Same

Hahahahahahah you pickup guy, that was a good one you should try it on some woman at the bar maybe next time

I can feel it’s genuine So many of us here kind of exploring that “teacher role” it’s so whole some , it’s good place for it😁 I find I’ve come to a point in my life where thoughts seem very distinct for me, and it’s clear to me that it’s a thought. Thoughts lack physicality, yet they contain some kind of “reality”. It’s like they are auditory and visual illumination of something real. Hmm. Maybe it’s something real that is “sensed” and the thought is just illuminating it

Jokes have their place 😇

I don’t get the joke Actually I love these jokes. If I said every joke on my mind about this place I’d be banned . Or maybe told “get a life” or something

There’s something in me, that was able to recognize how profound actualized.org was. Let me turn to that thing directly, and cultivate that, whatever it is

Telepathy is real yea 100%

How do they manage to maintain that logic in their mind and it seeming reasonable to them 😂😁if it’s like you say, I don’t keep up much with some things

Late reply but just a lot going on Yea I’ve thought how some mind stuff on psychedelics, someone might see it as profound because the psychedelic state is profound, but the mental stuff could still be just reflection of your regular mind so it’s not the most important thing Ok, but is there any sense of self for you? I also thought of enlightenment as permanent yes by definition “Everything is recognized as new” I guess it has to do with the mind being dissolved, becuase it’s the thing that kinda makes reality seem “known” or something. It projects onto reality I find “choice” being an experience, meaning it can seem to someone they are choosing or vice versa. But I intuit there’s not choice actually

Late reply but it’s just so much going on It’s cool to read such elaboration especially about the self because I find it’s not super popular maybe to talk about . But it’s the most central to my life that’s why I think about it I just thought, if you reach state where self and reality are one as you say, how is that different from “no self” because it sounds like no boundary, and the self has to do with boundary for me. Yea you can say “reality is self” but then I feel the word self looses meaning a little…

Sounds to me like the “self” would be all that is contained in that particular “pov” , or something …

Yea I see. Someone could work to become successful, motivated by the idea of getting women, but to get to the absolute top in terms of carrier yes I think it has to be other motivating factors, more self driven ones, as the basis, to suceed at that. Fitness helps anyone in that regard yes that’s right. When you say they didn’t seem to value you enough, it makes me think, either they see you as loser in a way because you having less money = being lazy or less intelligent etc (in their mind) . Or it could be they want some kind of financial benefit from you. The former sounds more likely to me when it comes to casual encounters