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An enlightened person is a chameleon of sorts. They are empty so they could take on any form without attachment.

@Huz88 I hear you. It's just that I have been really looking deeply into exactly what the mind is and how it influences perception into duality. At his moment I have mind pinned in a corner and relentlessly beating the shit out of it. It's a left blow, and now a devastating right hook! And the crowd goes wild as he pummels his opponent! hehe

@Huz88 All divisions exist within the mind. It's a game that mind loves to play with everything. All you can do is laugh when you see mind is mind.

@JustinS Think of it this way, If you were free floating in space, how relevant is time? Where are you located? Where are the points of reference that bring security to the mind? Would mind/ self lose it's relevance? All that would remain would be pure awareness of existence. Bring that same sense of being back to your everyday experience. Why can't we extend that free floating/ pure awareness view to this world we experience every day and not take the points of references around us so seriously. Pure awareness existing within it's surrounding field without all the reference points that mind introduces like the passing of time and a sense of a self location. Look from within and see things from a different perspective. Feel the awareness within you now free-floating within this existence. Allow pure awareness to be at one within it's field. This is the wave realizing it is the ocean.

@JustinS "K" " Transcendence of 'me' does not happen within time". What an enlightened view.

@JustinS Yea, there is lots of good tidbits in that. It really gets to the root of what's wrong with most of humanity as a whole. It's insane! We are one human race on one planet. Mind causes divisions and divisions inevitably cause destruction from the sense of separateness and insecurity. I listened to that a couple of times because there is a lot to take in. "Thought is movemet, movement is within time". " Time is hope"

http://www.newbrainnewworld.com/?Altered_States%26nbsp%3B:Meditation More info on brain wave mapping of meditators

@Huz88 "Mysteries and Manifestations arise from the same source".

I haven't consulted the I Ching for years. Yea , look into it to. Sometimes it will tell you exactly what you want to hear about a personal situation. Other times it can be brutally honest. I mean like in your face. It needs to be entered with total respect. It is the flow of the universe around you at any given moment in relation to the question asked.

@Huz88 My mum always told me in times like this "Everything happens for a reason". Do you ever consult the I Ch'ing?

Acquainting yourself with the path. See where it leads.

@Huz88 Sounds as if we have to attain enlightenment without their aid for now. When you look at this and see what has unfolded, there is great lesson here. Show me the self that wishes to attain enlightenment. If you can locate that, transcend it!

@JustinS You may find this interesting.

@ChimpBrain It's all relevant though. Good info. From my minds perspective it felt as if awareness suddenly came to a sharp point of focus. It kick into high gear and became hyper awareness. Something aligned perfectly. A level of awareness that was beyond "me" as a self. .

@ChimpBrain That was interesting, Thanks for sharing. I wonder exactly what is happening within the brain that causes a sudden change in perception. It can be likened to a "shift" or a feeling like the channel has changed and perceiving on a totally different level. That shift is usually most prominent when it is experienced for the first time. Does something suddenly "switch on" or is it that something in the brain "switches off" like removing a filter? Could it be that when we are in our "mind" that we are only open to a small part of what perception is capable of and when we transcend "mind" perception becomes wide open? Something suddenly changes and it's quite distinct. Thanks again.

@Brian Greendahl Mooji discusses anger @00:32:00

Why, b-c it no longer fits with the "social norms". And you feel awkward suddenly? Step back and look at what it is that is happening. Maybe your outgrowing something. If that is the case, yes there are going to be "growth pains" along the way. That is the shedding of the old.This work is all about throwing out what has never been true.

See this as a change and not a problem. Ask yourself-what has changed?

@Extreme Z7 Consciousness dancing with existence is the most beautiful experience imaginable. It is beyond happiness.

@Huz88 I believe that would not effect admittance. Lots of people have started their path of spirituality through first having glimpses of truth that way. You were honest and that shows how truthful and open you are by not concealing anything. If you would have said "no", that would have raised questions on what has bought you to this path. Great luck with that!

When I was a child there was no" localized self" and the world was amazing. We need to regain what has been lost.

That's a lofty idea but not true in the sense you are thinking as in "you are everything". Don't take that is such a literal sense. Only your body is literally "every-thing" because it's part of the material universe on an atomic level. Lets say for the sake of conversation, there is mind- "YOU". Than there is pure universal awareness. How to experience pure universal awareness with no false additives?

@ParkiYou seem to understand this from an intellectual perspective only and not experientially. If you don't mind me asking, have you ever experienced what is beyond the self?

@Narvanna21 I'm sure you realize now that's all a self created detour. There is still something to learn from it though. Something about yourself more than the outside world. It sound like you got yourself back on track again without too much of a personal price to pay. Good for you!

@Narvanna21 Happy-early-Birthday! Know what you really want. look at it this way, do what makes you happy. It's your life. You are the one who has to live it. Do something that you have a passion for and it will come easy. That's not to say that there won't be challenges. That isn't saying there won't be deviations along the path. That too is all part of the learning process of life. So what, you take a slight detour. Simply return to your path again and proceed on. How could you fail? You can manifest anything you want. That is what life is here for. Never forget that.