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@Azrael I too remember this feeling well. Exploring the source of that would be interesting for sure. Also as a child there were many experiences of suddenly feeling at one with existence. Now as an adult I seem to have to almost search for that instead of it just happening of it's own doing. Since we're on the subject of childhood experience, I would also get Deja Vu a lot. Of course at the young age I had never heard of the word Deja Vu. Only much later in life did I find that what I had experienced was called Deja vu and others experienced it also. Any insights you have, please feel free to share. Thanks man!

@Alex K Physicists prove his theory for him with the double slit experiment (a wave becomes a particle/matter when it is observed) and consciousness creates the universe. Conscionsceness would than be prior to matter, or at least work hand in hand. When you say "In here we talk of Karma" are you referring to this Forum is mostly about Karma? Or did I get that wrong? I'm not sure. Here is a excerpt from the link on Biocentrism that you submitted: "The fourth principle suggests that consciousness must exist and that without it “matter dwells in an undetermined state of probability" . Physicists David Bohm had proposed something similar to this 50 years ago with his theory of "The Implicate -Explicate Order." *In a transcendent state of no-self I directly experienced something similar to this "probability state" . It was nothing short of a teaming foam of all possibilities. I labeled it "The source of all things" at that time. I really can't say what that experience was. Does it exist as another dimension beyond the physical? Or was that a state of pure consciousness that I experienced? Whatever it was, it changed the way I see everything. All of physical existence does have it's source.

A more complex universe that does not require consciousness ? Why not? Consciousness could be specific only to certain universes. A completely different OS for each. For all of humanity it would be huge. A global understanding this universe is creating and exploring itself through the human organism. A creation of itself.

@Barna Enlightenment is the next stage in natural human evolution. Enlightenment as we refer to it is the realization of something that most are just blind to as of now. The big picture of unification that is missing from our everyday mindset as a civilization. Maybe someday we will look back on these days and see it as the coming out of the dark ages of understanding and into realization that everything is one unified field. That change in thinking will in itself change the way our brains are wired and profound insights could than flourish and multiply upon themselves. Physical changes to the brain structure may happen by shrinking certain parts of the brain that are remnants of our caveman ancestors and the activation of higher thought areas could become awakened. I didn't know about trinfinity before but it sounds great to me. I really hope it catches on in a big way. Thanks for sharing that.

@Live Life Liam I'd ask myself two questions. Where do I want to be in ten years? And in ten years will still want the same? Step back and take a look at the bigger picture in a none attached way from the outside. If you decide that is the way to go, flow in that direction. Move slowly but with intention.

What do you think of biocentrism? It's a radically different view but worth exploring. "Life Creating Reality" Note: Listen to part one first.

I am no more than an eddy within an infinitely flowing river.

Hell no animals don't fear death. They have no concept of death. Instinct to survive, yes, but that's where it ends.

Here is one example. "Timeless Time".

@Live Life Liam This one seems like it will make you question everything.

@Leo Gura I just found a book By Matthew Bell Melancholia The western malady. Have you read that one?

-The Tree of Life -Melancholia -Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind * I haven't seen these yet but they seem to reach into the deep questions of self. Has anybody seen these yet? If so, what did you think?

Hitler came back as a cat? @David1

@Maximilian I agree with what you are saying here. But just for clarification this topic was intended as a fun little thought experiment to explore what is in your heart. No more than that. No rules and regulations to it. No right or wrong. Did you watch the video? I'm not enlightened but as for myself I could live that lifestyle in a heartbeat. I KNOW it's right for me. I live that simple life now. It feels so right without even thinking about it because it comes from the heart. But, how could I tell now what I may do after enlightenment. That could all change. Maybe I would say fuck living in harmony with nature, burn the garden, give away the Dutch ovens that I use to prepare food in an open hearth and move to the asphalt jungle so I can breath bus exhaust and order take out food. But for now I'll keep living my simple unenlightened life with the natural flow of the Earth. Or as it is referred to in the video "Timeless Time.". The only sense of time in this world is the rising and setting of the sun within the change of seasons. That reminds me, the cold crops are starting to come in now. lettuce, spinach, carrots, snow peas, just to name a few. Life unfolds in a bountiful way when there is only harmony.

Consciousness is collective. A unified field that exists everywhere. Within space time and outside of space time.

@pluto Good to know. A couple of quick questions b-c I really don't know much about the subject. Since all memory is wiped away you come back as a happy person next time living life to it's fullest? And what happens when you die a natural death at a ripe old age? Something different apparently. What would that be? Also I'm not sure what my mission is. How can I find out before it's too late? Is there an age cut point like 70 or 80? How would I know if this life is a "restart" now ? Any way to know? But what is there to know if all memory was wiped? I'm confused now. What happens to snakes that commit suicide ?

@electroBeam I am like an idiot my mind is so empty. Tao Ta Ching

Before enlightenment, mow lawn, take trash to curb. After enlightenment, mow lawn, take trash to curb.

I'm not sure exactly what I'm going to say here so let's see how this goes. I'm seeing enlightenment in a bit of a different light as I woke this morning. I guess the big question that's always in the back of my head is "what exactly is enlightenment?" We as humans have evolved on this planet for millions of years. Our brains have the capacity to do many wonderful things like no other species on this planet. But along with that highly developed brain we also have a strong sense of self. We than ask ourselves "who am I". Where did I come from? What is my purpose? What happens to me when I die? Once these question are asked, the search for an answer begins. Religions try to answer all these age old questions by telling us there is a supreme being that creates, destroys, sees and judges all that is happing as an attempt to satisfy a question that most everyone has. So religion "fills in the blanks" so to speak. Any answer is better than no answer at all because people can than feel secure that the question is answered and they can rest their mind in that belief. So here is the question I woke with this morning. Is enlightenment a mental tool that is used, like a religion. But not to answer the big questions, but to just silence them because there are no answers and the questions are really the only cause for the search in the first place? I'm seeing humans as just another aspect of this universe. The same as any other living organism. But one that has evolved just enough to ask the deadly questions that there are no answers too. Than there is the next part of that process when we want to believe we have the answer that satisfies the question of 'What am I". Our brains come up with answers like -Infinity, the absolute, truth, nothingness, God, bliss ect, ect. We than feel the need to experience whatever "that" is. Like we want absolute proof of it. Aren't we creating another dream within a dream within that sense of self that comes with having a higher brain function? Isn't all this just the mind doing all this within itself? Every single bit of it? Is realizing this simple fact enlightenment? Is enlightenment just fix for a glitch in the operating system? A week or so ago, somebody replied to a post saying "Now that Leo has reached Infinity"___ _ _ _ _ . Something about that innocent little statement really made me re-evaluate everything that is happing. Who reached What? What drives this search in the first place? Is it all just an anomaly of higher brain function? What is really happing? *I would greatly appreciate anyone's input on all this. What do think?

I found this and I see that Key Elements already has something similar. Sweet. This one is still worth sharing.

@step1 Yea, this is a deep one for sure. Though to really put into words. I don't think he's saying that reality itself is a dream but that all reality is happening within awareness and only within awareness. The illusion is- that there is somebody here responsible for experiencing reality. The dream of an individual self happens within awareness. There is no you experiencing reality, only awareness. If you believe there is a you that is experiencing reality, that is the dream. This is the meaning of awakening. There is no you to awaken! If you notice @ 6:00 "Harry's" mind isn't willing to except this as reality. He wants to stay in the dream of self.

@Vegeta Thanks man for changing that. The other one was cool but it mightn't fuck up somebody else's shit.

@Vegeta Me? It's not about me.

@Vegeta Your profile picture could cause seizures in people with Epilepsy. Would you be willing to remove it for another choice? Thanks!