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@Shanmugam The ego has to start somewhere though. First with an 'intention' to break the bonds of self into liberation? But what your sharing here is that even the intention to break those bonds has karmic implications that must be payed also? Karma being like borrowing money with interest. But the faster you try to pay it off, the more interest is accrued?.

1. LANGUAGE STRONGLY INFLUENCES THOUGHT. Benjamin Whorf, like Sapir studied Native American languages. Whorf sites several examples form the Native American language, Hopi, to support his hypothesis that thought is strongly based on language. According to Whorf the Hopi language does not contain any words, grammatical constructions or expressions that refer to the English concept of ‘time.’ Whorf goes on to explain that it is possible in the Hopi language to express the world or reality in ways other than what many languages refer to as ‘time.’ The Hopi view of reality is specific to the language and can only be best expressed if one is familiar with the language (Carroll, 1956:57). In this example where Whorf feels language strongly influences thought

@phoenix666 I hear you. The English language is especially full of concepts and dualities. Most or what we convey to each other is in reference from the location of "I". " Yesterday I seen a bird flying south" for instance.

@sgnLeo is the Walrus. coo-coo-ca-cho

Maybe not? An alien race communicates through logograms instead of verbal language (which is a very slow and limited way of exchanging large amounts of information). Their language was also beyond all mental concepts such as time, as in- yesterday, tomorrow, was, will be, ect If your interested, check out the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis http://blog.wolfram.com/2017/01/31/analyzing-and-translating-an-alien-language-arrival-logograms-and-the-wolfram-language/

I just woke up, made a cup of decafe coffee and checked the forum. Wow-what did I miss??? Prabhaker is who else? What's all this have to do with Osho? Is Anna1 the same person as Annetta? Reality seems to have morphed since I went to bed last night. Who is who today? Can I be Leo? This is a trip! Great way to start the day with a reality check- there is none!

@phoenix666 Have you seen the movie "Arrival"?

@Dizzy I get the colors and the images in my peripheral vision a lot. Also a purple glow around objects sometimes. Who knows what that is. Oh, yea, sometimes reality goes "flat screen" too. They didn't mention that one! Btw-I haven't done trip for probably 30 years. But everything that was experienced then is slowly integrating itself over time. 1 Recognize the symptoms of Hallucinogen-Persistent Perception Disorder (HPPD). Flashbacks are the trademark symptom of HPPD. You may notice that you continue to have flashbacks beyond the few days after drug use. You may also experience persistent changes in your perception after taking hallucinogenic drugs. If you have perception changes, you may see:[2] Geometric shapes Objects in your peripheral vision (along the sides or edges of sight) Colored flashes Enhanced color intensity Trailing and strobe-like moving objects After images or impressions Halos Objects that appear small or large

@Dizzy I thought this was kind of funny with the illustrations. Not the subject but just the way it's presented here. http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-HPPD

@Dizzy You could be getting "flashbacks". There was a lot of talk about it in the 60's and 70's when LSD was widely used. It may be the same for tripping on shrooms. Do some research on "flashbacks".

1) No. 2) Keep movement to an absolute minimum but if you must adjust than adjust and get back to meditation. 3) Yes, it is when your new to meditation but with practice the time flies by. I would go so far as to say time doesn't exist when meditating. 4) Talking to yourself will reduce greatly with daily practice. Almost become nonexistent. Practice more. 5) Just sit and watch as thoughts come and go in a detached manner. It sounds like your busy doing almost everything but meditating. Everybody has to start somewhere though-like learning to play an instrument.. Practice often and you'll get the hang of it. Eventually it will become effortless and without all the distractions. *Do you have all these distractions when your watching a good movie? Probably not. Why, because your absorbed in the movie. Do the same with meditation. Just a suggestion, don't think of it as "you are meditating" but rather "meditation is happening" (no doer). Just my 2 cents worth. Others may have better suggestions for you. Good luck!

This is true Well this isn't though. These body/minds are going to fall away someday. Aren't you the least bit interested in what lies ahead so as to truly live now.?

The fish that swallowed the worm with a hook in it. Haha What to do now? Maybe try to swim away? Maybe put a good fight? Or try to spit it out? Who is it that baited the hook in the first place?

Watcher of the Skies Genesis Watcher of the skies watcher of all His is a world alone no world is his own, He whom life can no longer surprise, Raising his eyes beholds a planet unknown. Creatures shaped this planet's soil, Now their reign has come to an end, Has life again destroyed life, Do they play elsewhere, do they know More than their childhood games? Maybe the lizard's shed its tail, This is the end of man's long union with Earth. Judge not this race by empty remains Do you judge God by his creatures when they are dead? For now, the lizard's shed it's tail This is the end of man's long union with Earth. From life alone to life as one, Think not your journey's done For though your ship be sturdy, no Mercy has… From life alone to life as one, Think not your journey's done For though your ship be sturdy, no Mercy has the sea, Will you survive on the ocean of being? Come ancient children hear what I say This is my parting council for you on your way. Sadly now your thoughts turn to the stars Where we have gone you know you never can go. Watcher of the skies watcher of all This is your fate alone, this fate is your own.

@phoenix666 It's as simple as freefalling into the now. Let go into it and the now will show you it's source. I know saying that doesn't mean much, but experiencing it directly, Woa! It will clear up a lot of questions.

@phoenix666 This is quite important what you've said here. "Eyes open keeping you awake". I want to share something. Try taking wakefulness with eyes open to the extreme!!! Take it to a level of Hyper Wakefulness. Send an intention to the higher mind to become perfectly tuned into the absolute now. Striking the perfect cord with the moment of now and you feel everything come into perfect synchronization as pure consciousness. If you go even deeper into it, you won't be experiencing what your eyes are seeing regardless of whether they're open or not. Leo mentions being entranced in his latest video. This is what I'm talking about. It's very transcendent.

I have a feeling that higher intelligence transcends the physical plane of sticks and stones. But does influence it at times for reasons we don't understand..

I'm cooking supper vs. The body/mind is preparing nutrients for consumption. Two completely different views of the same reality.

@electroBeam This guy has an interesting story to share of how he started living the van life.

Welcome brother and come on in!

@electroBeam I started the journey when I was 25. It seems like just yesterday now. I seen then it was all a game but decided to play the game but get my life set up with what I needed, saving as much money as I could to retire as early as possible and live a simple life. I retired at the age of 50 and have no regrets. My 25 year career was building homes and I loved the work and the guys I worked with. I was mostly outside year round in the fresh air in nature watching the seasons change. I never minded going to work b-c I never considered it "work". So my suggestion: Find something worthwhile you love to do as a career. Save as much money as you can. Retire as early as possible and have no regrets.

@Shin I just watched the video and was thinking that a float chamber would probably work well here.

@Shin This may be a little different than astral projection but last night as I has falling asleep something pretty wild happened. I was really tired and just wanted to zonk out. So as I'm falling asleep in the darkness of my mind, it was like a curtain suddenly opened and all these amazing shapes and colors came pouring out. And just that fast it closed up again. I was so tired and it was so unexpected that I just thought to myself "well that was interesting" and fell off to sleep. But it was as if a portal had opened or something.