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Chill out everybody.

Same message here in a slightly different way. The intellect has no place here. Intelligence is transcended.

I had a brother who did do-nothing. He was good at doing nothing on a park bench all day. But than you have someone like Eckhart Tolle who did it mindfully and was willing to do the actual work of digging deep within himself for truth. And of course that's the only place your going to find any meaningful answers. Through silent self observation.

@Afonso I kind of get that impression too from watching some of the people who ask him for guidance at his satsangs. Don't get me wrong, I love Mooji. But some of his followers seem to be a bit lost in themselves. What kind of 'hand gestures'? I'm not sure what that is. Like flashing gang signs?

@Afonso Very cool!

Even the one who try's not to be dragged down the rabbit hole of thought story is a thought story.

Anything significant about the last 3 days to cause a change? What are the megaphones saying to you? Turn it around on it self. Maybe something needs to be heard?

@Visionary I thought this was interesting. The statement 'It is not aware of itself, That is the true Reality'. What would that mean? When we're awake we're asleep in true reality.?

@John Iverson I watched this earlier today. The Philippines are a paradise. Look familiar? I wanna be there!

@John Iverson 99.9% of what you see around you is probably artificial. Physical forms manifested by the egoic mind. Of course there are simple human comforts for survival. But anything other than that is excess and illusory.

@2000 When the time comes for you to see through the illusion of the suffering of ego, you will laugh along with the universe Trust that it can happen if you allow it. It is the shining light at the end of the tunnel. Or should I say- beginning light at the end of the tunnel. Transcending the ego opens a whole new door to a universe of infinite beingness. Everything becomes you as consciousness.

Some aggressors come at you because something you've said may have threatened their paradigm. Even when it's not said directly to them. Then they just can't let that go and 'You needed to be 'C-O-R-R-E-C-T-E-D'' by them.

That's it! It's like Oh, it all makes sense now! It's no longer just words or concepts -but a direct experience to relate the teachings too. That's something you can really build on. Good luck.

@Leo Gura Thank You!

@goodwig I guess psychedelics could be considered 'Miracle Grow' in my plant metaphor of spiritual growth.

@goodwig I agree with everything Leo said. And just to add my experience at this point of my journey to that. Meditation is a great tool to have in your toolbox but it's just one of many. Meditation is great for finding stillness and cultivating persistence and discipline in practice. Meditation, self enquiry and contemplation are all huge parts. Along with some degree of knowledge to point the way. But also some direct experience of what enlightenment is. An experience that can be referenced even when you fall back out of the direct experience. Which will happen. A big part is cultivation. Constant cultivation like tending/ nurturing a garden to maturity. And maturity takes time. Think of it this way. Everything you know and have experienced of enlightenment today is growing inside of you like a seed. And a viable seed is a good healthy start. And like planting a garden, you may set the seed in the ground and not see much at first. Than at some point, a small seedling will break out of the ground. That would be a first direct experience. And also like a new seedling, you may not experience obvious rapid growth after emergence. And why. Because the plant is putting it's energy into establishing strong roots underground that will someday support an established plant that will be fruitful. So it is with the growth of enlightenment. Just because you don't see much obvious progress right now, that doesn't mean it's not happening. You are establishing roots. And just the fact you've already set the seed is a huge start. Keep cultivating and trust in nature/ universe that it knows what it's doing.

@John Iverson Next ask- what is sensing what?

@John Everybody is different but yes, this may very well be part of your personal purging process. As far as going deeper, I find that there is more awareness of suffering. Maybe because one becomes more open and in tune with everything. But there is no personal attachment to the suffering, It's just seeing the suffering as it flows through you like a chilly breeze that comes in one window and out the other again. Fear in itself has no power other than the power you give it. If you don't feed it, it will starve quickly and fall away. Just as a suggestion, you could make fear part of your practice by facing the fear fully as it arises head on. Doing so renders it as the harmless illusion it truly is. Like the magic trick where the magician saws someone in half. It's the mind that creates the illusion of the saw cutting through flesh and bone. In truth the saw is cutting harmlessly through empty space.

An oldie but timeless!

I would probably be breaking out in a sweat thinking about that lie detector! Than realizing my gig was totally up, I'd look him straight in the eye and say, "You got me now. Pull the trigger so I may realize the true Buddha nature" And in that moment I would fully realize my true Buddha nature. There is no one to be a Buddhist. There is no Buddha When you strike a match, where does the flame come from? When you extinguish a flame, where does it go? When the conditions are right, I manifest. When the conditions are no longer there, I am not manifest

@Pallero What I have found is that if it feels strange or different or slightly uncomfortable, I'm on the right track. That's when the biggest breakthroughs usually happen. And what may feel strange and different today, will slowly become the norm over time. Funny how it works that way. Edit: You mention the 'observer perspective' experience you had. That's what I'm referring to. Trust that. Cultivate that.

@aurum I was listening to Adyashanti earlier and what he says @5:00 chimes with what you said here.

@Pallero I'll get right to the point here. Your experiencing these ' flashes of unrealness' from the perspective of the ego. Your ego is having flashes of what it refers to as 'unrealness'. Right? But in truth you are experiencing flashes of realness and that is exposing the unrealness of the ego. See, it's a 180 degree shift in perspective of what is. When you have those flashes, your ego defense mechanism automatically kicks back in and overrides this completely new perspective. The ego even goes so far as to label it 'unreal' when the truth is, it is the ego that is unreal. A few flashes of truth are better than none though. You could consider them mini -awakenings. Or flashes of the non-egoic state. It could be. But for that to happen you must first open up completely to what is said above. Cultivate those 'flashes' of clarity so that clarity (mindfulness) is always present instead of the ego/thought mechanism. That takes work on yourself over time to remain steadfast in that non- egoic/ mindfulness state 24/7 and under all circumstances no matter how challenging to the ego. It's a constant struggle. The ego is always right there there waiting to regain a foothold again. Even for those who have had really deep awakening experiences of the non-egoic state. It's a transformation over time from the egoic self into the non-egoic state. The egoic self took years to establish. It could take even longer to undo that falsehood. But that depends on how strong of an egoic self you've built up and the true willingness to let it go through practice.

@Ritu Whenever that starts happening see it, slowww down, and breath. Simply notice your breath.