Something Funny

So basically, according to your own prophecy, Jews are bringers of the apocalypse? They went and decided to take back Jerusalem because of their over inflated egos, then built a powerful army and caused a conflict that will lead to a nuclear annihilation? Are you secretely trying to justify the holocaust?

And then, when survivors of this attack grow up to hate Israel and form a new Hamas @Lila9 will be like: Why are they still bitching about it? Why can't they just let go of their mom and dad being blown to bits? How dare they become resentful, those barbaric Palestinians, they only want Israels's destruction. Lots of people got bombs dropped on their heads throughout history and turned out to be fine, so why do those wicked Palestinians have to become terrorists??? Surprised pikachu face when those people then go and brutalise Israeli civilians in return. How could this have happened? Who could have predicted it?

@Lila9 so just to confirm, you are okay with the below because Palestianians are basically animals anyway so it's not that big of a deal if the die, right? https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/31/middleeast/jabalya-blast-gaza-intl/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_content=2023-10-31T18%3A09%3A45&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN Context: Israel bombed a refugee camp in hopes of killing a hamas commander who might or might not have been there. Basically, according to Israel, and I guess people who support Israel, it's worth trying to kill a single Hamas soldier, even if it causes a hundred civilian deaths. I am saying "trying to kill" because there is no way to confirm if he was killed in the strike or if he even was there in the first place. And I guess this couldn't have been an infantry operation because then 1-2 Israeli soldiers might have been killed. And it's better to drop a bomb and kill a hundred innocent palestinians than risk a death of a single Israeli soldier, right? Because palestinians are basically animals anyway and Israeli people were choosen by God to bring morality and ethics into the world so they lives are worth more. @Lila9 did I get that right?

Is this adressed to me? If yes, then this is not what you comment was about. Don't play dumb.

If you didn't want to fight me on it, you shouldn't have replied. You are fighting me on it, just in a passive agressive way.

No, they are not. I don't know what made you think so, haha. There are literally lots of people, all with different perpectives. Us 3 arguing about it now is a proof.

Aaand, you missed my point completely.

In your case, you are supposed to go up one level to meet her.

That's all bullshit, lol

You are speaking about whaat you don't know. So you should follow your advise and stop.

Also, how original. Never heard this before on here You could have used Kim Kardashian for a change.

@Twentyfirst it is, haha

That's bullshit, lol.

@Gennadiy1981 like seriously, this is the entitlement that people are talking about. And I am not talking about Jews in general, I am talking about your entitled ass specifically right now. There was a freaking world war happening. Every European nation was struggling hard basically. There were huge death tolls, and they didn't consist only of Jews. And yet, everyone was supposed to drop everything and go try save your people specifically according to you. How deluded can you be?

I never said any of that. But I guess it is just more convenient to groubdlessly accuse people of not liking you when they start inconveniently debunking your bullshit.

@Gennadiy1981 yes, because sjoining a war on another continent that you were not involved with is a huge fucking decision to make. Railways were very much bombed during the war. But I guess that doesn't matter that much when you want to play a victim card. Not to mention that saving Jews specifically wasn't exactly on the top of the priority list. And after the war you were given a whole fucking country (cause Jews didn't take Israel with their own powers, did they?). And that's still not enough for you. You still complain that the world didn't do enough, lol.

How did you want the world to protest against the Holocaust, which they didn't even have full knowledge of, besides being at war with Germany, lol?

She is not Jewish,

@Lila9 also, if you want me to be objective. I can try to be and say that I do think that Israel has a right to defend themselves. Including offensive operations. but the way they are doing it rught now and the collaterral damage it causes is just nuts. This is what I have an issue with.

Yeah. But there can be different levels of the root cause. If we analysing why the conflict happened, it's unhelpful to say that humans are just humans. You might as well say that it's because you are God and you imagined it to be in this way.

Yes, so what? Am I now not allowed to point out the root cause of the conflict because it will be called a blame game?

What's your evidence for Jews being more evolved as a society than the rest of the world at this point? Your argument is basically "we had a monoteistic religion" so we were better than everyone else. But when it comes to the actual level of development, which should show in your actions and the ways of living, how were you different compared to other societies?

Literally the whole point of a spiral dynamics model is that it describes how human psyche evolves. Meaning, it suggest that this is how humanity is hard wired to progress. According to that, stage blue would happen with or without Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam happened because of stage blue. If those religions didn't exist, some other would, they are not essential. So if you were to stick to your position, you should reject spiral dynamics altogether and say that they are wrong, instead of cherrypicking stuff that suits you.

Sorry to brake it to you but stage blue didn't happen because of Jews or Jewish religion.

No. I am just asking you to elaborate on what do you mean by that. But I guess you didn't mean anything. It probably just rhymed well with what I've said so you decided to add it. Like I've already said before, there would be no Hamas if not for Israel and the US. It would have literally not been born into existence in the first place. And no, you shoukdn't equate regular Plaestinians with Hamas. Well now they are bombing them really hard. Lets see how this goes and if there won't be Hamas or something worse than Hamas in 10 years. Cause mass bombing is sooo effective when it comes to guerilla warfare. Works every single time...