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Isn't that how America stopped being a British Colony?

You could try to evaluate what would be better for humanity in a long term. And who is to say, maybe what Luigi did will be a net positive thing eventually. Are you able to predict the end result of everything that's happening? I am not. I don't think you understood me correctly. I am just saying that with different group of people taking power, "justice" and what's good / harmful to society would suddenly do a 180. Would this have anything to do with what's actually good to humanity? No. So what I am trying to say is that since our concepts of justice and good/bad are so flimsy and are not grounded in anything real, then maybe we shouldn't be playing with death sentences willy nilly? People hanging them would be the state by then. That's the issue. Just like when communists took over power in Russia. Once again, I am just trying to say how relative all those notions of harm to society are. Which is why I am advocating against death penalty period. I am sure a priest in middle ages could make an argument that heresy against God is more harmful then murdering a single person.

To society or to status quo and people in power? If some kind of social revolution happened tomorrow, Trump and Elon and all those CEOs would be hanged. And something tells me that people would have used the same "harm to society" argument. Would killing them be okay then? Today, it's not okay, but tomorrow it would be fine. Why? Did something about Trump or Elon change? No. The group in power changed. So now different things are considered "harmful to society". In middle ages, you would be considered harmful to society for the stuff you teach, and you would be hanged or burned alive. Would you be defending death penalty then?

So maybe we shouldn't have death penalty if our society is so corrupt? Maybe we should solve the corruption before deciding who deserves to be killed and who doesn't? If Luigi is sentenced to death over this, there will be nothing just about it. It will be clearly done simply become he dared to kill a higher class person. There are people who murder others and get like 5 years in prison. Also, there is a question of who gets to be the judge. In this case Luigi decided that he can be a judge and murder a corrupt CEO, clearly thinking that he deserves it. How is this different? Just because the actual judges represent the system, doesn't mean that their judgement is inherently any more just or any wiser. They are still just regular humans.

@Davino how can you prove that when there are so many factors that can affect your mental performance at the same time?

@Emerald and I think this is what pickup promises. At least the kind of pickup Leo talks about, as I didn't watch other advise much. You suck at making a conversation? Your voice trembles and you stutter? You get super anxious and afraid when talking to women? Approaching a lot will fix that. And that will improve your chances of finding a partner. Sure, you might still feel like you are not good enough because of your looks, or feel insecure on some deeper level, but just fixing those will already objectively improve your chances. I feel like this is the place most men who want to "fix" themselves come from. Not literally from the place of shame and self-hate like: "If I don't get at least one girl I approach today to like me, then I am a pathetic piece of shit who doesn't deserve to live". Obviously that's an unhealthy mindset to have, but I think those are extreme edge cases. And I am not defending pickup btw. I would actually love for you to share some better alternative. I just don't know of any myself. I've made a thread about speed dating the other day. But it's basically the same thing. You put yourself into an uncomfortable situation where you are forced to talk to a bunch of women in a short amount of time. Very similar to cold approaching. A bit more organized and more socially acceptable.

I misunderstood what she meant.

@Emerald Also, I think we should distinguish feeling shame and being insecure about being not good enough. I don't think I have much shame about not being good enough, but I do sometimes feel like I am not good enough. And then make a distinction about being good enough for yourself / existentially and being good enough practically / for other people. Like sure, I can recognize that I am good enough the way I am, that I deserve love and have a right to exist, and I shouldn't feel like I should achieve something special or whatever for that. Sure. But am I good enough as in am I good enough for women to say "I like this guy and I want to be with him"? Am I good enough for people at work to promote me to a manager position? Am I good enough to start a successful business? I don't know, I don't feel like I am at the moment. What is your proof that I am good enough for women? You don't really know me much. You definitely don't know Aion, and other people here much. I, on the other hand feel like I have a lot of good reasons to not feel good enough. Like the fact that I've never had a girlfriend in my 25 years on earth and never had a moment where I felt like somebody is attracted to me. Just sharing the thought process for you to understand this point of view better. And I don't think that all the wanna be pickup artists and manipulators on this forum feel much shame either. Insecurity? Sure. But I am not sure about shame. They seem pretty shameless and self centered to me, actually.

@Emerald I see, thank you.

@Emerald how do you distinguish "I need to fix myself" because I am paranoid about not being enough and genuinely lacking dating skills and wanting to use pickup to improve that because you don't really know a better option? Are all worries about lacking "skills" ultimately just being insecure about not being enough? It's hard to do that when you feel like you are fighting for your survival. You would need to feel pretty safe in life to adopt that mentality. Elon Musk can be a kid in Disney World, he has got billions of dollars, he can do whatever he want and not be worried about the consequences. If I act like a kid in Disney World, I might lose my job, or get rejected from my already tiny social circle, or get publicly embarrassed.

@Emerald the question is how do you get rid of shame in a reliable and predictable way. Pickup is attractive because it give people a simple practical approach to the issue. You go out and approach. You approach 1000 people you will get better and you fear and shame will probably also get much easier to handle. You could even create a more complicated program, like a workout plan. Because you have specific numbers and parameters to work with. While "get rid of shame" advise seems really wishy washy. Like how do you do that? If most people could get rid of shame, I feel like they would.

thanks, I actually was able to find some locally. And no major issues so far? I assume you are able to afford going to the dentist regularly and fixing whatever cavities you get, if you get any? So you think that just keeping your mouth clean and bacteria free should be enough for your body to sustain teeth on its own?

@Leo Gura how long have you been avoiding it for? I am afraid of ruining my teeth.

@Leo Gura how come it seems like there are zero checks on executive power or like they are not working at all? How can one person be allowed to do so much damage? I remember you saying that places like Iran couldn't sustain democracy and liberal values because their development level was too low. But now it seems like basically any country, no matter how developed it is according to spiral dynamics and such, can drop into chaos and corruption at the click of your fingers.

1. All of those are just very base level needs. Nothing wrong with that, but they are. 2. The way you talk about them is how a caveman would talk about them.

I've literally talked to you just twice in a span of a month, if not two months. Sure. Me an Hojo are so alike, like two drops of water. And I disdain women with all my heart

This is actually so demeaning and disrespectful, it actually makes me angry. As if that kind of girl is somehow worse then those fancy European girls and is someone to be "settled for".

I don't even oppose what you've said that much. At least some of it. Sure what he wants is quite primitive or whatever. I just don't like people who are arrogant and mean to others.

There is a difference between making one comment, saying that you disagree with something and blowing up in multiple threads. If there is nothing mean and judgemental about this: Then I guess there would be nothing mean and judgemental if I said something like this: Right? Totally normal and chill way to communicate. So respectful...

Also, I've noticed how you like using an age argument. And I feel like this is a really lazy and dishonest way to argue. This is what people use where they have nothing to actually back up their words with. Just: "I am older then you, I know better".

@Someone here interesting, I've actually never heard of it.

@Princess Arabia Nothing mean or judgemental here. Totally not trying to put him down because you got upset at what he said.

@Someone here honest question, why would any europeans go to study in India? Just to have a little adventure?

@Princess Arabia You've become so judgemental and reactionary lately. You don't have to be the kind of wife he is looking for or agree on his vision of marriage, it doesn't mean that he has no right to want what he wants or that it's wrong. He is not going to raid your village and enslave you to do his chores.

@Alfonsoo I watched a collab video with him, but haven't checked outthe channel itself, yet