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The opportunity of asking god a question: Alan Watts talks about a thought experiment in which you could talk to god and ask him any question you want to ask. He says that it is difficult for us to find a question which is worth asking god. What we would ask is rather a questioning of "Oh WOW is this for real?". (Side point: This might be the place in which we can ask ourselves what the limits of our language are because god could give us all the answers, the only limit is our language in which we ask him.) But on the other hand every question you would ask god would be all the answers at once. Because every part of the universe is connected to everything else. Kant wanted to do a science a priori. Which means a science which entirely built on facts before empirical reasoning (because that could be flawed). Math is one of these sciences. Kant searched for more a priori things though because he reasoned that when he found a few a priori truths about reality he could make a bigger picture out of that which could be unshakably true (like math). He wasnt really that successful with finding a priori truths though. But now if we could have a real 100% true fact about empirical reality then from this point (theoretically) you could conclude all other facts about reality. If you get an almost 100% truth about reality (some delusion is probably always there) you could still expand from that point quite widely.
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Why would they cut it? No deeper reason for it.
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Yes I completely agree. I would add though that that still isnt truth. Some people confuse general consensus about things with actual truth. But those are entirely different things. That is missing in the video a bit. Of course. You can have systems with new numbers or different arithmetic operator and what not. Sometimes it's of use and sometimes not. Last is called pure math. Math without a purpose.
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Jannes replied to Jannes's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Most or all of us have a need for some sort of social group/ friends. But there is the cost of getting soaked into group think of course. So the question is how do minimize it or which kind of social groups put the least group think pressure on you? Dumb people because you dont buy into their ideas, smart people because they filter out dumb ideas, extroverted people, introverted people, punks, musicians, intellectuals, normies ... I honestly have no idea what would be best.
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It's still relative. You could change the axioms.
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What I fear I have to give up, if I want to reach god. 😢
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Feeling soft: To understand all is to forgive all. Nothing is wrong; just limited. Speaking to a Neonazi: I understand you, I love you, you are perfect. But I still need to put you in jail, because there are other perfect beings as well who are threatened by you. You cant ultimately beat fire with fire, but as an interim solution it is nessacary to a degree.
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What Is Actuality? What is Gaslighting? Self Love.
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@Rafael Thundercat I changed my mind, I dont think it is cringe anymore. He managed to built attraction by being very direct and ballzy and it worked because he made it unweird by becoming humoursly overly close which created enough space paradoxically. In his situation there is lots of nervousness for both parties which is why that humor is funny, it's hard for me to get watching it comfortably on my laptop. Edit: I actually like that one the most now haha.
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Haha they are so good, except the last one where the girl put in lots of effort if it wasnt staged.
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How do you get direct experience?
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I am studying to become a teacher or social worker and in my work environment there is a lot of respect less behavior of students, physical attacks, threats etc. I cant deal with that well at all. I was victimized a lot in mid school so I didn't learn how to handle myself and to be assertive in those situations. I definitely got enough steam and self confidence in me to learn the skill but I need practice. Because most of the times when I see these situations my mind just shuts down. I naturally dont have any ways to deal with it in my subconscious tool box. I become better at it as I go but I think it would be much better to learn these things in a professional environment. Do you have any experiences with courses, seminars.. ? Where you maybe in a similar situation and learned assertiveness somehow?
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A big obstacle as a philosopher is being carried away by group think. But you still gotta earn a living. So a job in solitude without much worries makes sense. A part time craftsman job is suited for that. In Germany at least craftsman get paid well.
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Not absolutely. There are beauty standards that every country has like symmetry of face and probably some other stuff because it reveals healthy genetics.
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People are like material: People are like material, like bricks, like mortar, like wood, like water... People are material in that sense that this material like any other material is what constructs reality. The everyday distinction between material and human is not actual. Thoughts, spirit, emotions are equal to a piece of meat in that sense that they are all constructed out of consciousness and therefore play in the same field/ web. While materials of reality can of course be different, the materialness connects all materials to one thing.
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I am in a similar situation. I have a consensual F+ and yet I feel like I would cheat if I slept with other girls. I am high in conscientiousness and maybe naturally more monogamous. But because I am like this things become more close even though I didn't want that. Now we spent a lot more time together, cuddling together.. It's enjoyable atm but I dont think it will progress into much more because the natural connection isnt there.
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Isn't the capacity of our minds to bullshit ourselves to survive impressive.
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Conveniently made red lentil quinoa paste in an instant pot: 75g of (dry mass) red lentils = 258 kcal, 45g of (dry mass) quinoa = 156 kcal, 20g of vegan butter = 142 kcal, a touch of vegetable broth. Makes 258 + 156 + 142 = 556 kcal. It does take a little getting used to looks wise but it does taste very good and is very healthy. It makes around 1/4 of my diet the other is more "normal" looking food.
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This has to be viewed in a more nuanced way. Yes historically there were no vegan diets but many of the diets back then (especially the ones with farmers) mostly contained a lot less meat. So you justify some but not the high amounts of meat consumption if you take tradition as your dogma. With increase in technology however there is even less of a reason to consume meat. True veganism is built on ecological and ethical considerations for which it needs a certain ego development of people. Even if I wanted to loose weight I would still like to consume lean meats and low fat quark. However there are many selfish reasons in discovering more plant foods. Eating more Legumes, veggies and fruits has lots of health benefits.
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Yeah the first one wasn't cool. It seems Justin has the higher status in this relationship which is why he is pretty carefree with his behavior and his girlfriend doesn't show him any boundaries really and just skillfully overplays things which might feel bad for her which doesnt give Justin any incentive to be more careful. I see it mostly as teasing and fun but not on eye level. If she would be able to tease Justin on the same level then it would be healthy.
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You could make a 1 to 1 switch with lots of mock meat, that just wouldn't be very healthy. If everybody was vegan it would be super easy of course. Thats by far the biggest reason. I wouldn't say that veganism is inherently superior, I would say it can be as good and most of its difficulties come from that you probably do it alone.
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Maybe a 1/4 of the quantity at best, in a similar style yet still not as disgusting looking. That picture really is a work of art. True. I meant gut bacteria. I like quinoa, whole grain rice, millet and sometimes other whole grains a lot. Chat Gpt says this when I asked it to proof your claim: "The claim that humans were essentially carnivorous during most of the Paleolithic period and genocided part of the fauna in the current Sahel region lacks strong scientific support and may be an exaggeration or misinterpretation of archaeological and anthropological evidence. Dietary Analysis: Studies on human dental and skeletal remains, as well as archaeological evidence, suggest that early humans had a varied diet that included both plant and animal foods. The development of tools for hunting and gathering plant-based foods is well-documented. The analysis of dental morphology, stable isotopes, and wear patterns on teeth indicates that early humans had an omnivorous diet. Archaeological Evidence: Archaeological sites from the Paleolithic era often reveal a diverse range of artifacts, including tools for hunting and gathering both plant and animal resources. This implies that early humans were not solely reliant on hunting but also engaged in gathering activities. Plant remains and seeds found at archaeological sites support the idea of a mixed diet that included fruits, vegetables, and grains. Cultural Practices: Evidence of early agricultural practices, such as the cultivation of plants, dates back to the Neolithic period, indicating a shift towards a more plant-based diet. The development of cooking techniques likely contributed to making a wider range of foods, including plant-based ones, more palatable and digestible. Genocide of Fauna: The term "genocide" implies intentional and systematic destruction. While early humans certainly had an impact on local fauna through hunting, there is no evidence to suggest a deliberate, organized effort to wipe out entire species or engage in mass killings of animals. It is crucial to approach such claims with a critical perspective and consider the current state of scientific knowledge. The evolution of human diets and interactions with the environment is complex and influenced by various factors. While early humans were undoubtedly hunters, evidence supports the idea that their diet was diverse and included a significant portion of plant-based foods. Additionally, the notion of humans genociding fauna lacks empirical support and may be an oversimplification of the complex interactions between humans and their environment." - One way or another it doesnt even really matter. We can digest meat and vegetables alike. So no matter what the diet back then was doesnt say what the best diet will be for us now. It's the "appeal to aught fallacy". Ultimately yes. But do you go about life acting like all ethics is subjective and therefore you can do whatever you want? Which is why bodybuilders who eat only chicken, rice and broccoli get sick of the chicken first before the rice. Fat is a flavor carrier. Rice with butter taste so good for example. kale is a bit to bitter for me but I love to eat a whole Romanian salat without anything. Ugh. I love green smoothies though. No joke they taste amazing. There are a lot of things I want to eat which taste good. Meat tastes good but it's far from the only thing. One of the most delicious things is a green smoothie bowl made out of frozen bananas and spinach. You have this idea that humans are basically completely selfish and every act of not selfishness is basically for ones own benefit so just a smart form of selfishness? And you should see and accept that, otherwise you are are a fool and a clown? It's hard to argue against that position because it claims a universal truth. It simply doesnt feel true to me, it seems more like a partial truth. Which doesnt make them bad. Interesting actually. How can you be sure though that you reached the core and not another mental construction? Thats not what veganism is. Probably yes. A subset of a total which is mostly herbivore hurray. 🥳 How old are they and for how long have they been at it? Heart problems become more of a serious issue if you are older. Haven't heard about that before. But I asked chat gpt again: The claim that a vegan diet leads to deficiencies, low muscle tone, poor thyroid function, and low testosterone levels is not universally supported by scientific evidence. In fact, a well-planned vegan diet can provide all the necessary nutrients for optimal health. It is important to note that deficiencies and health issues can arise from an inadequately balanced diet, whether vegan or non-vegan. Nutrient Adequacy: A properly planned vegan diet can provide all essential nutrients, including protein, iron, calcium, vitamin B12, zinc, and omega-3 fatty acids. These nutrients can be obtained from plant-based sources or supplements. It is crucial for vegans to be mindful of their nutritional intake, just as any individual should be, to ensure they meet their dietary needs. Muscle Tone: Adequate protein intake is essential for maintaining muscle mass and tone. Plant-based protein sources such as legumes, tofu, tempeh, and plant-based protein supplements can contribute to muscle health. Vegan athletes and bodybuilders have demonstrated that it is possible to achieve and maintain optimal muscle tone and strength on a vegan diet. Thyroid Function: There is no inherent reason why a vegan diet would lead to poor thyroid function. Cruciferous vegetables, often cited for their potential impact on thyroid function due to goitrogenic compounds, are not problematic when consumed in reasonable amounts as part of a balanced diet. Selenium, an essential mineral for thyroid health, can be obtained from plant-based sources such as nuts, seeds, and grains. Testosterone Levels: Limited evidence suggests that a vegan diet may have a neutral or even positive impact on testosterone levels. Diets rich in plant foods, especially those containing antioxidants and anti-inflammatory compounds, may support overall health, including hormonal balance. Lifestyle factors such as exercise, stress management, and sufficient sleep also play significant roles in hormonal regulation. It's important to emphasize that any diet, whether vegan or omnivorous, requires careful planning to ensure nutritional adequacy. Individuals, regardless of dietary choices, should be aware of their nutrient intake and consult with healthcare professionals or registered dietitians if concerns arise. Generalizations about health outcomes based solely on the adoption of a vegan diet can oversimplify a complex issue, as individual health depends on various factors beyond dietary choices. Of course a little is fine. But once you are in the obese range it's a huge predictor for longevity and overall health. Everything is getting fucked up in your body if you are fat. 🥳 Okay. Which is important. I am no nutritionist but even the WHO say that fruit sugar in fruit is no problem: "The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars." Source: https://www.who.int/news/item/04-03-2015-who-calls-on-countries-to-reduce-sugars-intake-among-adults-and-children 1) You can do it without supplements, you just have to be pretty clean with your diet to get enough choline. 2) What's fundamentally wrong with supplements? I take one multivitamin a day (although I am vegetarian) and some omega 3 its easy. Damn. You have to develop strategies to make it less of a burden which takes time when you are not used to it. Honestly I would be interested to try some meat out again, simply because I haven't allowed it myself and not really for the taste. Once I went from vegan to vegetarian I was so hyped to taste milk and eggs again but they got boring real quick. Taste wise I haven't missed too much. I sometimes go months without eggs though (still lots of milk) so if there would be anything special in eggs as an animal product (which is not in milk) my body would make cravings for it right? I have pretty much none whatsoever.
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Generally it's a question of value. Do you value the benefits from eating animal products for yourself more, or do you want to make an ethical decision. Of course if veganism would be 100% as good as omnivores diets then everybody would do it, that's why it is an ethical decision, you do it against your own benefit. BUT veganism can still be very tasty if you try.
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True your practical diet probably doesnt look as gorgeous. But there are still many many easy vegan meals you can make like oatmeal, bread with some vegan spread, fruits as a snack, you can do lots in an instant pot or rice cooker and many dishes that need small amounts of preparation. (its not like you dont need to cook meat as well). It just takes time to get used to new recipes.