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"Oh god hamburgers are so disgusting all of a sudden."

That's dillusional. There are some examples. I can cook some red lentil quinoa paste worth exactly 500 kcal and post the picture if you need that. It can. I think the pic looks pretty disgusting. I think dissecting a whole animal from scratch would be pretty disgusting as well but I can only speak for myself. Also vegans never argued that meat doesnt taste good and therefore shouldn't be eaten, they make alternatives that taste as good or close to as good as meat. They make the point that it is unethical for different reasons and that taste doesnt equal health. Even strict herbivores in the animal kingdom munch on meat when they get the chance. How much meat is consumed raw and without flavoring? What do you do with flavoring - you make it taste more like vegetables. How horribly boring would most meat taste without vegetable flavoring haha. I cook food because that's what humans have evolved into. We cooked for so long that we got a pretty unique digesting system that is designed for cooked food. Hypothetically how would that be cheating? Also I dont. Well it tastes good. I can eat a shitton of fruit and oats in a variety of ways. I disagree. Only eating that would not be a very balanced diet. None of them are really part of a Whole Foods plant based diet and should only be consumed in small amounts. I dont even know what your point is with that. Yes please start. Yeah I probably won't.

🤮🤮🤮 Thats like 5000 calories I would guess - I want to through up just looking at this, where do you even find pictures like that? Have a fair conversation about veganism please, I could do the same thing and select disgusting photos of meat which dont represent your diet at all. I am vegetarian btw.

Red lentil plasters taste good and are super conveniently makable in an instant pot.

Just got curious about it. I think I never had a runners high but is that a good experience. Also is it healthy? I am genetically terrible at sprinting but great at jogging but never made something out of it.

Ideas in science, physics, psychology, ... also loose their spirit when they become teaching knowledge.

5:14 - 5:33 Especially this clip of Rich Piana so perfectly shows how much you can hurt others when you dont love and respect yourself enough. You are not free to do whatever you want to do with your own life because "it is yours", you have a social responsibility to love yourself. Otherwise people who love you more then you love yourself can be heartbroken that you didn't love yourself, that you were to ignorant and stupid to see how wonderful you are when they could see that in you. A facet of their love is that they want you to be free but that also means that they can only hope that you love yourself.

Stage green can be very promiscuous. It could develop further so that sex becomes pretty much free for guys. At first I thought it was a good thing because removing the neediness for sex would make people come together only for deeper reasons. On the other hand maybe that's what relationships are all about at the end. Loving somebody because you have to because you are dependent on them. You bullshit yourself into a bubble, the dependency is stronger than your demand for truth and you are genuinely happy in that bullshit bubble. What's the bigger picture here? Edit: Anyone familiar with the hippie movement? They probably had lots of experiences with that.

Thats true. I just dont think it makes up happier. A deep connection is great but is something you have to work towards and if there are tons of easy options out of there it doesnt happen as easily. Just like healthy food in the supermarket isnt picked by anyone although it is the best choice. (Bad analogy maybe: I dont think just sex is necessary is like candy just bad but it can be for many).

@Miguel1 Thats still a lot, thanks! Edit: I feel like when people burn through their karma their character develops. These incels, black pillers, red pillers wouldn't be that way when there was a society with easier access to sex I think.

Changing by staying the same - Staying the same by changing PARADOX: The more you change the more you stay the same. In the reverse way how Star Wars looses its spirit by trying to hold onto it. From Leos Blog George Lucas Explains Star Wars: You can't "hold on to the spirit that started all this" because spirit is dynamic"

Its scary. I think a person who is confident enough to think that a dating coach would help them has already gotten enough approval that they dont need one that much.

I blocked all music and I feel a lot more at peace. The little dopamine rush from music could distract and numb myself from work and responsibility. But I am very sensitive to all distraction cause I have ADHD. Just try it out and see how it goes. Moderation is probably key. You can put a timer on your music to make it easier when you find it positive to reduce your consumption.

I see. And I agree there must still be ways to communicate what you are looking for. Because there will be people looking for shallow sex and there will be people looking for something deeper and these people need to manage themselves. I think I need to further explain what I mean by free sex. I dont mean absolute free sex, just a bigger proportion of society being open for free sex so sexy people could always meet. So just imagine the system would be similar to the first world countries now just that there would be a higher percentage of promiscuity (especially at clubs and tinder.) Everyone could consensually bang in a shallow way or when they are tired of that look (and only look) for a deep connection in traditional ways. Everyone would get what they want, people who dont want deep connections dont need to lie and hurt others just to have sex and people who want a deep connection actually focus on that because there is no neediness lying to you (that you are in love with somebody when you are actually not so you can justify sleeping with somebody). I have a real life example for that. In Germany there is a super leftist sex positive club. People go (half) naked in there and there are tons of places to bang and people bang there all the time. Are clubs like these good or bad for society is what my post boils down to?

What do you mean by fucked up people and how would they abuse the system?

Yeah. What do you want to demonstrate?

@rawdawg Nope sorry.

He is taking a break. He is on the forum though so not dead.

@Rafael Thundercat Great examples!

Don't you think the act of sex itself is a form of intimacy or is it a special kind of sex that is deepening? And what's your opinion on the initial question? Do you think free sex is a good thing and people would connect with the intention of depth?

Fantastic.

True. What's your position on this then, like when is sex appropriate?

Being mature means, you get joy out of doing the right thing. If you haven't discovered that you get joy out of that, you are forced to take immature love because you always take love in the best form that is available.

I like that. Very very interesting. It makes a lot of intuitive sense. I like this example of what it means in reverse. Once a certain grounding structure is given it's fun to break out of it. Like with the clone troopers.

Communication seems to be the problem here. People who approach sex differently (one casual, the other one with the intention to bond) shouldn't be together.