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@zazen no there is a big difference and no the news sources are not stupid. Russia attacks Ukraine for no good reason, just because they feel like it and deliberately shoot without looking. In Israel case, the Hamas terrorist were launching rockets and were the terrorist were hiding. Israel had to eliminate the militants and it was the best and only way it would have been, they tried other alternates but when you have militants shooting at soldiers, the soldiers will not stand idly. Hence it was an accident and therefore the air strike made this while in Russia, it was a deliberate attack on innocent without any reason whatsoever, I am really sorry but if you cannot see the diffence then you have a moral problem. Thank God BBC and other news agencies are still sober.

@Flowerfaeiry Well don’t let it confuse you with meth. Even addition of methylene make it’s a totally diffent substance. But chemically vice there is a day and night difference, of course there is some similarity but difference is huge. See below an educational video but a doctor I respect a lot as he is knowledge on those topics. @Javfly33 yeah they are pretty legit, actually they did pretty good documentaries, and especially in the past, they did pretty hard core documentaries such as interviewing Al Queda or recently interviewed Russian citizens under the current government and etc. Yeah I would consider them pretty legit. Lately they are focusing only on two topics but still I like how they go outside of mainstream.

Thanks everyone for participating. You know it’s so hard these days to know what’s true and what’s not. There is so much government propaganda that things that maybe not so dangerous are super taboo and those that are dangerous you may forsake them. That’s why the government really should be honest with people and allow them to make an educated decision by honestly explaining all pros and cons. So I never tried meth on its own but laced with ecstasy. I mean what can i say, it’s super much more powerful and potent than ecstasy. If pure E can last from one to two hours, meth can last easily for the entire night. Also E with time taking, evaporates, meaning every time you will be taking, the effect will be less and less while Meth will give that strong high and would also say get you to the ecstasy stage. You know it’s those things that are too good to be true so you know that you need to be extremely cautious and if uncertain it’s best to stay away. I just don’t like how the propaganda scares people, and it’s not like they care for people, they have no issue advertising pharmaceutical products that do cause problems.

Thanks I did read them. I am not negating you just wanted to get opinion from someone else. But HaAretz is a legit source.

@Karmadhi Look we are speaking of two different things. First of all I have personal bias, it’s my country and my people who are getting killed so regardless I cannot see things objectively. Though I try but everyone in this world have bias including Leo. Leo has very little bias and I truly applaud but regardless he has biases as well. Second of all, on a personal level you cannot judge anyone who lose their love one to war. You just can’t judge those people. Thanks @Nivsch I was under impression that the whole thing was fake news and did not happen. But are you sure it is true? Again during such turmoil God knows what could have happen.

This week was already the second time that I stumbled on internet (first time was few month ago) that three people committed suicide because they watched actualized.org. I don’t know if it’s true but I would say it’s not, though, on most videos that Leo releases he puts a disclaimer about suicidal and on very few deep videos like one about poetic vision he had, he warned that that those who are suicidal should not watch. I am not here to argue whether it’s true or not, my question is why is it suicidal to begin with. At first Leo always warn not to commit suicide and all his teachings are actually geared for a profound life. I would understand for example, if Leo was teaching people to have a high paying job, drive expensive cars, have sex with the most beautiful girls then I would understand, as most people cannot achieve all those items, then they would feel suicidal. But it’s the other way around where Leo teaches people to be humble and seek the truth and connect with your higher self that technically anyone can do that, all you need is to just find time alone and be with yourself, you don’t even need to be social. Realistically can someone explain, why would someone be suicidal after those teachings. Unless the person plans to kill himself and just use actualized.org as an excuse, but he could have used any excuse even watching CNN. Or someone with extremely weak psyche who gets depressed by seeing someone killing an insect?

@Raze but the links are not from HaAretz newspaper, it’s not. I am not debating you but I would like to see some legit sources even American ones ok like MSNBC, or CNN or Fox or legit or mainstream Israel ones. I mean such a big deal if was true, would be picked up by some sources. Please understand whenever the info is hidden from the public a lot of conspiracy pop up. @Nivsch what’s your perspective on it? Have you seen any legit sources.

Amen, may we never know the loss of anyone. @Nivsch can you help out here, @Razekeeps constantly saying that on the Oct. 7 aftermath the IDF were shooting indiscriminately and killed our own. I never heard such thing nor from any reliable source. They are conspiracy websites but they are very conspirational in many other aspects so I have hart time believing them. But I did not see in any legit source that IDF killed our own citizens. Have you heard of such? Is it true or just another conspiracy theory?

Not to beat on the dead horse, but @Karmadhi posted this video about Moshe Feiglin whom I know very well and why was so he radical in it, I actually called him and asked but unfortunately his grandson was killed in the battle field during the fire exchange with Hamas militants. (Moshe got married super early and so did his children), so he was actually very frustrated and was very pissed off, but it’s one thing when someone else gets killed vs a family member and here was his grandson. That’s why he released such a video that he did. Just for your info, Moshe is a very cool guy, if he would be on this forum you would find him more in Psychedelic section post, he is very outspoken on it, of course when he was in politics and was asked by reporters he denied ever taking them because you know, you get a label, but he officially says that as per studies they can give profound experience and people have the right to do with their bodies whatever they please as long as they don’t hurt others. But you can also see that events which lead to survival can bring people to desperate calls and move. Even Leo said that those who reach higher stages of spiral dynamics, if faced with survival may fall into lower stages. Again had to reply since the posted video was about someone I know personally, couldn’t let it go without looking into it.

This is a second time I am hearing such. The first time I heard was that someone made a parallel since he slept with porn star and it didn’t work out with him then he would ban. No offense but that is such a poor logical thinking. And please don’t take it personally but if you really believe in such low quality conspiratorial news, maybe you are better off living somewhere isolated and away from humanity in general.

Yeah I like her for that. Good choice.

Does anyone know her position in general or she is identical to Biden? I heard a lot of criticism of her from conservative media, but it’s mostly conspiracy and I brush them off, but I am just curious if she has any stronghold? Cause for the past four years she was just a shadow of Biden. I mean if she has the same mindset then it should be fine. I think the problem becomes when politicians become radical and while they made attract some part of society, they distant the other part.

I hang out in many circles and why only beer, we can get “e” as well, even better. Actually I used to be an activist and used to help Moshe, he had org aization which eventually became a political party called Manhugut Yehudit, he is actually a very cool person, he is into a lot of things. I haven’t spoken to him in a while and from the video that I saw I see he changed a bit, but it’s ok many people do. And by the way I hang out even in bigger circles, I also used to do lobbying on Capitol Hill, beat that. @Danioover9000 you are now my friend as well and I don’t care what you say otherwise, friend.

Oh actually that’s a friend of mine, Moshe Feiglin, yes he was a politician before. I hunted out with him, even have photos to prove. Haven’t spoken to him in a long time. Wow I see he is so passionate, he actually was not that passionate before, something changed in him, probably personal with recent events. He is actually very cool otherwise, he was the one fighting to legalize weed and other stuff, he is a former hippy as well, but that’s as far as I will go.

As far as amount of money goes, i said don't quote me on that, i read that article long time ago so i don't remember. But you missed the point. Its not about how much they spent, the idea is, the western mentality has a concept where you need to be successful and rich, and since many people cannot achieve such a state they fall into depression and In would assume thats where the suicide stems from. See people in Japan I believe are more into Shintoism, where material happiness is not the most important and hence with that mentality you be less likely to commit a suicide. And to your other point which is outside the scope of this topic, of yeah, those pharmaceutical companies are super corrupted, I can vouch form first hand experience, long time ago I actually did lobbying at Capitol Hill, and there, inline you see bunch of pharma companies doing extensive lobby. This is not a conspiracy but something that I can vouch as I epxrienced it myself.

Exactly, Leo's teaching is to avoid suicide at all cost, all his advises can be accepted technically by anyone, you don't need money, hot girls or fame. All you need is to be with yourself. A long time ago I read an interesting article about Pfizer's Prozac, an anti depression pill. It was selling very well, except Japan. There, people have a mentality that life is like a river, you must have good days and bad days. So if you have few good days you need to expect bad days. And they could not sell anti depressants. So they made an evil plan, invested 5 billion (dont quote me on the number) and introduced American Culture there, movies, shows, reality TV and so on. Basically the American pop culture is to have high paying job, live in a mansion, fuck the most beautiful girls and drive Lamborghinis. An average person, at best can have one or even half of the items, so after I believe five years, the experiment worked and people started to fall into depression and the Prozac started to go fast. So if Leo was teaching that, I can understand people be suicidal, but its the other way around. And one more thing, I just started a small topic, but even on this thread, I feel like the idea of suicide is not new phenomena for some people here when it comes to personal level. Interesting how intimate this topic can be.

Thanks for the math, so that was my real point, meaning people still commit suicide, its not that Actualized.org indirectly drives them (of course you state many times for those who are suicidal they should stop watching), or its somehow the context that makes them suicidal. I get the statistics, and its like saying there is a certain percentage of thievery in USA, so statistically those who watch, probability wise have to be at least few thieves, but that is just a probable cause and its not like when hearing awaking an individual is driven to steal stuff.

@Nivsch You are probably branding me as some extremist, which believe me, I am totally not. But I like your reply and I want to let you know where you misunderstanding and why am i acting the way I act. I totally get where you are coming from and the way you are trying to operate is at the higher stage, I can see that, look i am doing a lot of deep spiritual work and awakening, i am not a fool. I know you want to see good in every person and I see that you gave a chance to watch Owen Jones based on his tone that he is perhaps neutral. You need to understand, there are radicals at low vision, which those who think say the same and there are intelligent people at low vision. They can be as antisemitic as the radicals, but they speak nice, polite, dont show their anger, but operate at the same low level of development. They could care less about the other side in anything, in this particular case, they can be deeply antisemitic, but they will market their idea in a very subtle and nice way. Look, a truly awakened person, for the most part, would not even speak about this topic. Most humans operate at a low level, your replies fall on deaf ear, but Ia m sure you understand this. So if this is the case, why not act on a primitive level, at least you say straight up then going in circles. Thats why I say what I mean. I can do the same thing, speak intelligently, throw some deep words while keep the same meaning, or speak on that primitive level where others would just easily understand me. See if you get it. If you would visit a kindergarten, you would speak with them on a very low human development level, because they simply would not understand you otherwise.

No I strongly disagree with you, the Arabs treated us like shit, i would even argue worse then Europeans did, its one thousand and one Arab lie, they made us to be a Dhimi status, where we had to leave in sort of Ghetto and the reason they didnt kill us was because we believed in one God, but for secular ones, are you shititng me, they would cut the head off. See video below debunking the Arab myth. Your other question about a one state solution, of course its a very legit and of good values. Look I will not argue with you with what in my onion is low conscious arguments though they are legit, that Palestinians support terrorism or they are bad or they would steal and etc. Dont get me wrong most Israelis would give you such answer and would give you reasons and most would be good reasons. But you know me and you know that i am honest person (and believe me, Israelis hate me for that) but the main reason is I am not ready to wake up tomorrow to a non Jewish State. Lets say all Palestinians would become saints, and lets say they would see the light and they truly will give us terrorism, so for the next election, everyone goes to the poll and guess what, they vote for an Arab Prime Minister and in parliament the Arabs will be as equal if not more than Jews, the first thing they would do is to get rid of an idea of a Jewish State. And why would they not? So then Israel would not be a Jewish state any longer. Now, I am not speaking of racial theory or anti ethnicity, indeed those Arabs and gentiles and people on this forum even @Danioover9000 if decide to become Jewish, they will be as Jewish as I am and can become equal citizen. And by the way I am not a racist and I truly appreciate multi cultural states like USA, Great Britain, Canada and Australia. Regarding Israel, taking the fear to the side, that we also need a Jewish State since we got kicked out of many countries in the past, the idea of Israel, was to be separate form other nations, so they can connect to the creator differently and not be influenced by others. That is the reason, as the Bible says there are seventy Nations and then there is a Nation of Israel. God said the Jews must be separate that eventually they will teach the world of one God.

I did read, you are right in most of the sense, i mean something to think about.

Thank you, that’s nice source, how do you know those sources, I assume you are not Jewish? so let me start form the second source, it does not say Mesiah will gather, but rather God will gather (it used the word I) from four corners of the Earth. It speaks of very generic terms, but that prophecy from Isaiah does not speak of Messiah where in other portions he specifically ‘mentions Messiah. Indeed if you read the chapter you sent, this is very similar to 1948 indeed when Israel started and Jews flew form four corners of the Earth, so check one for that prophecy. The first link you sent, speaks of very complex three oath, a very strange contract made between God and Jews (again much to explain but will go in very narrow explanation). The contract was (and again it was made on a very weak premise which is not part of Halacha, a Jewish law as it derived from Songs of Songs which is not followed by Jewish Law). The contract says that Jews should not ascend en masse (individuals ok), should not bring holly vessels (various options on it) and the nations shall not persecute Jews in large numbers. However, during the Holocaust the contract was broken, we were persecuted in large numbers and hence the deal was dead, we can ascend en masse. Let’s say this was true, but the deal is deal. And you are correct, as long as gentiles would not have committed a Holocaust against us, you may have an argument that we should not have ascended to Israel, but oh boy, after that Holocaust, Palestinians, be ready, we are coming home. I am very impressed did you find that on your own? I know this website and I study myself from there, it has a lot of resources and useful information.

@Raze Read my prior post

Ooooooh I like that, you want to challenge me with Bible. My friend nowhere in the Talmud or Torah or Tanah that Jews are not allowed to reclaim Israel. There is absolutely nowhere. There are various opinions by some Rabbis in the twenty first century but at the end of the day it’s their opinion only. I will debate anyone on that issue. Did you see my post where I quoted the Bible earlier? Indeed prophet Isaiah says that Israel shall be liberated via the sword, through the wars it will, be fought. The Jews will come from the four corners of the earth to settle and we will have an issue with the children of Ishmael. The Israel of today is precise based on biblical redemption and indeed it goes the way it has to go, indeed things are going perfectly as in the Bible and prophets predict, not any deviation. Indeed if Arabs say were kind enough and would negotiate with us back in 1947, we would not have Israel as we have today, exactly as stated in the Bible that we would liberate biblical Israel. Thank God they started the wars with us because if they did not, we would never liberate Jerusalem, again as prophesied in the Bible, and by the way, I am not going to sound radical, but if Arabs embraced Jews, and they would act like Europeans, today we would not have a Jewish State but rather a binational state. So my friends, everything indeed go perfectly as planned by heaven. I can debate any Rabbi who will speak otherwise. But again, no ancient text of any kind, does not speak not to resettle the land of Israel, and a lot of stuff thrown on internet is fake info, you need to verify with the source and I don’t bite that someone said, he hard form his friend, or a bar tender or a stripper, if you quote something then have a source next to it.

My great great great grandfather was kicked out and not a day passed by that we have not stopped praying to return and now it’s ours. That’s baloney, most other countries are built on someone’s else land. First speak to USA so they give back land to Native American Indians, who by the way did take it and Europeans were never inhabiting the land. You are right what happened back then happened, it was then and this is now. But what’s now is that we Israel owe this land and we owe it now, today and we ain’t give it to anyone as much as USA and most of the countries in the world. The Arab world had chances back then to negotiate but they lost their chance and they lost it forever. There is no going back. Thank God for it.

Regarding West Bank, our justification is that we lived there before we got kicked out by Romans and also even in early twentieth century we purchased a lot of land in it. It is our cultural heritage and it’s Biblical Israel. Look a Jew has only right to Tel Aviv which was built in 1905 only because of our right to Hebron which was built 4,000 thousand years ago. Abraham never walked on Dizengoff street (it’s like Times Square in USA) but he lived and was buried in Hebron, which is in West Bank. So I personally don’t support neither Russia or Ukraine to be honest, and I am not picking any side. Now if you ask historically, and this is just pure history, so Ukraine was earlier kingdoms which actually used to be called small Russia (but was not on the territory of todays Russia). At some point in medeval ages it was attacked by Poland and half of Ukraine asked Russia to be under its protectorate (which is eastern Ukraine) and then when Bolshevikcs came in and took entire Ukraine, so they were not happy and actually during the war, the western Ukrainians did help the Nazis and they even established Nazis colonies, though after the war Soviet Union kinda eliminated them and some ran away to Hungary and so forth. Then it was under Soviet Union but as a Soviet Republic not part of Russia, meaning hypothetically they could have always seceded and there were attempts by individuals, those once they spoke off they were either arrested or found dead, there was zero tolerance policy. Except Crimea, that was part of Russia but during the asoviet time actually it was exchanged some part from Ukraine went to Russian and some to Ukraine such as Crimea. Though Russia never returned that portion back.