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Thank you @Leo Gura I see your latest posts you changed your mind drastically. Just curious did something or someone convince you? Because take few weeks back you were speaking totally different and now I see you recognize the situation what is happening truly there. By the way it is a compliment coming from me, I truly appreciate your answers and I could not agree more to them. But what made you change your course? Just curious if you don’t mind sharing?

Found interesting cartoon that on animal kingdoms, animals also vote and give promises, so you should know.

Actually lately I have been seeing few cases where the media claims people do crimes on mushrooms. Of course as few more states now added mushrooms to be legally sold, more similar articles are keep popping up. See recent article where one young men killed his family. I don’t understand, mushrooms are a spiritual medicine to invoke awakening, it’s not like smoking a crack where a person has no idea what they are doing, but on mushrooms? Are we saying that mushrooms are like any other drugs that those who take may go and murder? Is it a bug? https://nypost.com/2024/07/22/us-news/maniac-shahboz-rajabboev-accused-of-killing-4-relatives-including-2-kids-inside-nyc-home-left-building-with-bloody-face-claimed-he-was-on-shrooms-da/ https://pix11.com/news/local-news/brooklyn/brooklyn-man-faces-murder-charges-after-killing-family-including-two-children/amp/

You know come to think of it, I only heard murder on mushrooms (of course in its rarity), never heard on DMT or 5 MEO or even on MDMA, for some reason if someone murders on psychedelics then have to be mushrooms. Correct me if I am wrong, and if I am not, then why. also, mushrooms are very interesting because at a smaller dose they can be very minimum less than any psychedelics, but at the very high dose, they can be as strong as 5 MEO

@questionreality I see what you are saying. So when it comes to political aspect only for Trump you are right, and again politics are biased to begin with, that’s why I stay away from it. @Leo Gura see below what I wrote about you and let me know if this is accurate just curious if I truly understood. Now when it comes to other topics and especially about spiritual development, you know on this one I would side with Leo. See Leo goes straight to the point and cuts the BS. Other gurus will not tell you straight up things or would play games for you to experience enlightenment on your own. I don’t know whether it’s good or not but sometimes you want straight answers and many gurus would tell you that the enlightenment will come on its own and etc. Leo would say the way it is. And I am not taking Leo’s words as a given, I personally went through it and basically what he explains in his videos it’s just solidifies what I have experienced. And it’s very nice to hear someone reiterates your experiences at least you know you are not there all alone. Just the idea that you are there all alone, that you and God, that you and God is one and the same and etc. Those are very deep and profound experiences and mind you many gurus would even deny such things. Just take the topics of Psychedelics, not sure if you know there is a very mainstream spiritual group “Chopra” (I call them spiritual morons) they not only shit on psychedelics and mix it with general drugs such as cocaine and heroine but they deny the idea of achieving such high states. I am still surprised how those idiots still stay in spiritual business, I got personal beef with them, they laughed at me and mocked me, even called me drugatic for convincing their students about the benefits of enlightenment of 5 MEO DMT. Do you know how frustrated I was with those dumbbells and I can see how Leo is also frustrated with other gurus who deny and subscribe only to one set of teachings, I can see how he can call them names and say they have a long way to go. From personal experience I dealt with a lot of spiritual teachers, and sorry for venting out, but I was getting so much shit from them, I was even surprised how can they be even called spiritual teachers and if they were, I said God help their students. I got rejection from them saying they solipsism is a myth, that it’s all in my head, that reality is real, one dushbag even came up in front of entire circle came up to me and pulled my skin and said if I feel it then I must be real as this reality is to make fun of me. I can see Leo’s frustration and how many just do not understand the depth of spiritual teaching and he has the right to be upset. I used to go to them and trying to convince them but was wasting my time, and sorry for saying bluntly but most of the gurus can be a waste of time if you are really going that deep. Yes for an average person who just wants to meditate those will be good, but to go to such high levels, and I would say only a very small level of those individuals can achieve, like an extremely minority, that you can have counting on your one hand and still have fingers hanging, then you will end up frustrating with those gurus. Yes I can totally see why perhaps Leo is getting bit upset and also the awakening that he achieved, we can only dream of, but of course we can all achieve such if we put a lot of practice into it, and I mean a lot. So yes I believe Leo has the right to be arrogant and point to us that we are all asleep because in reality we are asleep compare to him and since he reached such high stages he has the right to call down on us as much as a sports trainer calls down on his students to get them up and running as he wants them to do.

Please don’t take it as an attack against you, it’s just how some people see you and contemplate on that, maybe there is a reason that some people see you this way and ask yourself why. But by no means we tend to gas light you in any way. You brought some other interesting point. So there is an ideology A and Ideology B. Of close in absolute domain they are same but in relative domain they are opposite, and a person knows that ideology A is right and he truly believes in it, so then if you truly believe in it, then what you are saying never bent your believes no matter what and even be willing to die for your beliefs? Hmmmm I contemplated on it, maybe you are right, if you are truly believing in it and that what makes you who you are then be prepared to die for them?

I read your frustration and I see your points. Look everyone who is alive today has some ego, only those who transcendent do not have but they are also not here with us. And I agree with @Merkabah Star in his latest post about Leo, actually it’s weird lately I started to agree with him more than before. Now about about Leo. I mean I hope Leo won’t get upset but this is my observation of him. I believe I noticed three things Leo is biased, like really biased and no arguments in the world will change his mind, it’s politics on Israel, Trump and Covid vaccines. Like no matter how many arguments you will give Leo will not take anything into consideration. @Leo Gura I am not criticizing you but I know you want to be caught when you are bias and I bringing my humble view. But that said, having three biases only while most of us have over hundreds if not over thousand is almost nothing. That’s a truly big accomplishment. But when it comes to other topics listed outside the biases, oh Leo knows them as an expert. I am amazed the way he teach such complicated subjects using such simplistic language so that pretty much anyone can understand. I will admit that prior to discovering actualized.org I was listening to other philosophical channels, but they were not covering even a tenth of the depth Leo covers and using such complicated language that at least half went over my head. By now I have dropped all of them and only listen to actualized when it comes for personal development. And by the way, lately Leo is being more “vulgaric” in his tone that he is awakened and we are all asleep and not near it, and he is right, compare to awakening, we are still dreaming tenth dream while he is awake as early as a sunrise. He can criticize us that we cannot even begin to understand solipsism and that he probably is the only one who did understand, and I tell you, he is right on that. This person achieved such depth of understanding that I would say all of us combined are not even at his finger nails. And I am not exaggerating. So to conclude @questionreality no need to get upset or defensive, no one is here to convince anyone to change their views and those who are here to convince are actually wasting their time, we are here to express our different views or how we all see reality and that’s fine and that’s perfect. Especially when it comes to police there are a lot of biases poping up because they evoke our survival and living. So just accept others point of view even if you don’t agree but at the same time it’s ok and even correct to point to others that their thinking is just a way but not the way But remember, There is no one right way or a wrong way.

@DocWatts Thank you for the reply. I hear what you are saying but as far as some points you made not sure how accurate they are. I am not saying you made them up but for example the transfer of power back in 2020, I did hear in many independent and even some media events that Trump would not transfer the power and there were even conspiracies that he would evoke army to stop, but let’s be frank, non of that happen, unless it was done so quietly, I personally have not heard any real coups where armies came or there was issues of power transfer, when his time came, his chopper picked him up for the last time to drive to his Florida mansion and that was it. Also I personally get ticked hearing about Nazism as I am Jewish and my family went through that stuff so what they went cannot be compare to any current government. But I still have to hear of yet any event that in his first term he made any unconstitutional events. And I hope I am not looking like I defend him, I am just trying to point out that our nerve breaking is not necessary. Is he a cheater and a liar, ok I give you that. Did he molested a woman? That’s not a news break, how many people molted other women, is that right? No, but it’s not uncommon. Again the main topic we have here if he can make the country better? Look Bill Clinton had affairs and he even lied under oath that he never had sex with that woman, but he still was a very good president and a memorable one. People make a lot of fun of Biden and his falls and him mumbling but he was also a very good president (except mandating Covid vaccine that was disastrous and unconstitutional) but with everything that people make fun of him, I look beyond that. The entire thing reminds me it Sophism. You can look at half empty cup and debate whether it is half full or half empty. Both are right answers but the approach to them can be coordinately different. To answer your other question about biases and racism in USA, yeah it’s there, but it’s everywhere, but don’t confuse the leadership with people. Look people in general are racist and people love to separate as oppose to come together. I have traveled to many places and you will see people of same color if they are minority, they will cling together as oppose to make friends with locals, that’s the nature of the beast, that just show that we are still developing. Now speaking of healthy stages, I think the only truly healthy stage is stage turquoise. All other stages still lack a lot of things and I think when we call out specific healthy aspects in various stages; it is because we attribute then to stage turquoise eventually. Otherwise and I will say this radically, none of them are truly healthy.

@DocWatts I will politely disagree with you claiming that fascism coaches on traditional American values. I can argue the other way around that social nationalism leads more to fascism. Despite the stage blue personality of the neo conservatism they have a lot of positive values like respecting the family structure, ethical religious laws when it comes to helping society and charity, teaching people not to be selfish and help the community. Again I am not here to bash the progressives but they do lack those things. Or maybe whatever progressives we have is not a healthy stage green. Both sides have flaws and both sides have positives but to brand one good and the other bad is immoral. But whatever Trump policy is, it is not even infinitesimal close to Nazism, it’s a day and night differences. Again I am not defending Trump but I never ever heard him say that he will eradicate any ethnicity. We are all rolling around same topic and we accept fear porn from the media. I understand if any of you were working in his cabinets and one of you were a whistle blower, all we do here is just speculation. Again I am not taking one side or another, I just want to point out that we make up fears out of nothing. And by the way, I do have a lot of friends who are starch republicans and do you know how much fear mongering they have about Harris, they say exactly the same if Harris will take over the country and who Nazism will spread, that she will change this country upside down. But I tell them exactly the same as I say here. What I see is fear took over everyone. People make up all sort of shit on all political spectrum. See I personally do not care, first of all there is nothing that I can do to change the pitiful spectrum and second if I will start worry it will take me off from doing spiritual awakening. And by the way I can continue my spiritual awakening regardless who will be president.

And TBH using Hitler for comparison cheapens what monster was he, I don’t think anyone in history (except Stalin and Mao) who can be compared. The guy deliberately killed people for sport, for no good reason, he packed people and burned in chambers. Comparing just show a low quality thinking, I am sorry to say that. There are way more individuals in America who should be looked under scrutiny. You have Neo Nazis and KKK who spew much more hate and air at specific individuals as well as people from Antifa who are against white propel as well and by the way it is also a problem. There should not be any racism towards any kind of people and no race shall be elevated over other in US as how “progressives” like to do. That’s why you have all these hatred and division. You know thinking about politics of both democrats and republicans I would say it’s all two faces of the same coin. To answer your question about spiral stages, you know they say those who are truly enlightened, transcend from this world and if they are here, they have some work still to do. Maybe they are about to complete but still their ego is attaching. And of course to call someone Devil or Satan who by the way is far from it, obviously show you their thinking stages, and you can tell most people are just turquoise wanna be but are way on lower stages. @Merkabah Star This test is cute and correct for most part but I think I figured where the test convolutes. It’s really aiming at an average person, those who are stubborn in their views regardless of what opinion they subscribe. When it comes to people like most of us, who sees appreciation in both police view, there the test fails and basically on algorithm selected it will move you to one or the other optical view.

I think the test is cool, I actually sent to two more people and for them also Kennedy appeared in high 70ies. Does he appear to all of you? Wonder if this is to his neutrality on many topics?

@gambler look this is not a hill I will die for lol. I just told you from my conversations with them that’s all.

@gambler I am not debating with you and I am not Druze so I won’t make much statements on them. I do know some Druzes and I had conversation with them, at least the ones who live in Israel, they actually would get offended if you compare them to Arabs and do not marry Arab Muslims. I am just relating to you what some of them told me. Also some have relatives in Syria and they told me while they are not much involved in Pan Arab community, the Arabs don’t bother them. Again the ones I spoke do draw distinctions. But at the end of the day I am not Druze and cannot really support one or the other claim.

Dios Mio (OMG) I just took the test and look what was my results that I should vote for. Are you sure this test is accurate and does not have bugs????? Are you like 100% sure???? But I like Kennedy, actually I even meet with him few times, I would post pictures me and him but not sure it’s a good idea. He is still one of those old fashion democrats. I don’t know the later candidates are about polarization it’s like one or the other. I think the non polarization really ended with Clinton. I mean Bush started but then the war on Iraq and Afghanistan changed the American culture and since then it started to be polirized. But I would say Biden was neutral in that sense (except his idea to vaccinate everyone against Covid and glad the Supreme Court did not allow him cause that was totally unconstitutional).

I don’t think so and frankly speaking I don’t see any reason. The idea of this forum is for people to share their views and it’s not to have different opinions about a very complex topic. It’s perfectly fine to have different opinions and there is no need to change anything. I don’t expect people to change and I don’t plan to change. Again we are speaking of survival issues for some and there are few who live there so it’s a different perspective as someone who is arguing from the comfort of their keyboard many miles away. @gambler you are mistaking a bit, Druze is ethnicity while Christian and Islam is a religion. As far as people sharing DNA many in the region share DNA with everyone so that’s not a very valuable way to judge. You can read on Wikipedia about their ethnicity, they are actually descendants from ancient Assyrians (as how they like to put it) and their customs are different than your average Arabs. Even their Islam is somewhat different than of that of Arabic one.

@gambler Sorry for correcting on technicality but ethnic wise Druze are not Arabs, they do practice Islam in a bit different fashion. They are excluded communities and do not intermarry. And by the way to their of you who compare Hitler to anyone, it’s beyond disgusting. Hitler, may his name and memory be obliterated, killed peoples for sport, he directly and literally destroyed people not by accident and not during a war, but took innocent people and burned them in chambers. No human or even devil can be compared to him and comparing is first shows uneducationess and cheapens the Holocaust. @Heaven don’t feel guilty, it’s unfortunately a product of war, what can we do. We are fighting a war that we did not start, but it was the other side who started and now they have to bear the consequences. And let me tell you something, if there would be any other country, they would totally done differently and not like we would play around. In a week we will approach an anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the USA wanted to end the war and they went on radical steps, and by the way those two towns were not military towns, they were hosting women and children. When you fight a war you fight with people. It’s the people who elect government. Look any war is unfortunate, that’s why people need to think many times prior starting but once they start they need to bear the consequences.

What’s with you and calling everyone a troll. Will quote from one very wise person who said the following. Those who cannot intellectually challenge, attempt to destroy. those who cannot debate, defame. Calling names is the last refuge of non thinkers.

Again you have one point of view based on some sources and other people have others. All truth are relative. The only absolute truth in this world is that nothing else exists except God. A total unity. That’s the only absolute truth. Everything else is opinionated.

No he is stating other side for the right reasons. People have the right to love and hate other people. It’s a free world. And if one leader is bad to you he may be great to someone else. Nothing is black and white, there is no such thing as everything is good or everything is bad. So in a nutshell, no he is not a troll. There are many individuals who put one side of the story and others place another side. Every stick has two sides to it.

By the way I heard before Covid that in US the FDA were suppose to approve MDMA for medical use, they had 30 years of double blind placebo study and were suppose to approve it. (It’s funny that other medications take so much less and so many have more side effect). Anyone has any idea if that ever passed? It was either in 2018 or early 2019, but then Covid happened and etc. I really wish they would make it to the market. Also it’s a first time I see the mass media uses mysticism with psychedelics, it’s a good sign. Because in the mainstream psychedelics associated more with therapy, especially for mental health. But what about people who do not need mental health therapy and want to use specifically for spiritual growth. There are few things to read between the lines in that article and I applaud for actually bringing those points in. We want to see more in psychotics than just mental therapy.

Got it. You are right. See because of idiots like that, the politicians now can use such argument to ban mushrooms while we barely legalize them. It kinda sucks. It takes so much effort to lobby to legalize but it takes few to ruin such hard work. You know Leo, you maybe right that most people are just not ready for them. It truly pains my heart.

So it’s just a person was a nut, it’s not like mushrooms make people nuts? I can’t imagine mushrooms making people violent and wanting to murder? So you are saying these few individuals were just crazy individuals and would murder regardless even if they drank too much orange juice.

Thank you for the compliment. I know many will disagree with me and say that I am of an opinion of minority. But at the end of the day, the results prove otherwise. And that’s fine, I can be looked down upon but I rather stay honest to my belief. I am one of those who think, say and do the same. Some people say cut theater, I saw cut the BS, lol. To answer some of your points. So to start with Leo that we care of more Land than people, that’s not necessarily true. As you also stated prior that what you guys call West Bank is the heartland of Israel, that actually were most of the biblical Israel has occurred so that land is near and dear to us. Also we are realistic and we know that it’s not a land question but to totally eliminate us as they will not accept any shadow of Israel of any size. And they had West Bank before 67, what bothered them before? It was Tel Aviv and Haifa and etc, and once they attack and loose then they can’t get it back. We do value people more than land, indeed we are winning to go extra mile to save one of ours no matter where they are. But the land is for protection to guarantee our survival. It’s interesting that you bring the Gaza expulsion of 2005, no believe it or not it was back then Ariel Sharon who was I would say as right wing as you would call Ben Gvir and he was vehemently against two state solutions. Of course he did a grave mistake. I was totally against it back then and because of that I actually got involved in activism, if not for it, I would probably just stayed home, f***ed chicks and smoked weed, lol. See honesty is important. There was a talk that Ariel Sharon messed up big time with his son by opening casino and not paying taxes and his son did other schematics with US. There was a theory that he had to please Bush and did this unilateral withdrawal, his son eventually did go to jail. The Oslo was a bit diffent. Many people who speak of Oslo don’t really know the full Oslo and they don’t bother reading it as just catching phrases. The also accords did not spoke of Palestinian state but rather of autonomy. Many people don’t know but they need to at least read the encyclopedia. The two state came much later. And even though I personally don’t like to bring dirt from home, the so called left leaning politicians always threw a catch in any negotiation to make it difficult to accept while on the contrary it was mostly the right wing politicians who ended up more for land give away. Like Menachem Begin who gave the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt and few more. Again I am not saying one party is better than the other but pointing out the hidden gems that are often missed. As far as Russia and Ukraine goes, I am not picking any sides there. Don’t forget I was born in Ukraine (but could not wait to leave) and I also visited Russia. I can say few things but it’s best to refrain from using comments that are not productive and that would be classified as low conscious politics. I don’t have anything better to say. But to give credit where credit is due, is that Soviet Union was majorly responsible to defeat Nazis, that something I cannot take away. And to answer one last item for which you did not ask me a question but I will throw it out there. I seem to you like some kind of religious fanatic. As I told you I used to be an orthodox, but even the temples that I still go to, people there call me names as as “the one who turned away from Bible”, “God hater”, “person whose heart is vacant of Bible” “Bible desecrator”. So you can imagine those people are way more deeper than I am or ever can be. Actually one person that I know stopped speaking to me recently as he tells me that my respect for Bible is none, then he shall have no respect for me. Of course when I say Bible I mean Torah but it’s easier for most people to understand on this forum. Hope I explained to you.

@gambler are you asking or you are stating? But I can agree with you for the most of the statement. And the difference with me and most Israelis is that I cut on theater, I go straight for the answer. I had a friend awhile back and he was from a liberal camp, he believed in the same ideology as I do, but he always argued with me that we need to make theater, to show the world that we strive for peace, we are willing to give up territories, but at the same time set precedence that Arabs would never accept. I never liked that approach, I am a straight shooter, I like to say things they way they are and not thinking of one, speaking of the other and performing the third. Many say that I am wrong and I will to argue which approach is right or wrong. But in my gut feeling, it’s always best to be honest and sincere straight up. I am a firm believer that honesty can get you far and more respect.

Did you had a chance to research who Rabbi Meir Kahane was? Look the truth is, many people here in Israel are against two state solution, some are honest and some play games, and of course there are also who are for, but majority is against. I know most people who are against, will pretend to be politically correct and will give you excuse that they will ok for two state solution and give impossible conditions that will never be met and the result will be same as I am. I call it hypocrisy, but they have a point, this way we can play nice and show the world that we are so innocent and its the other side who is against. Even Benny Gantz and Lapid are really not for Palestine State, they may give all excuses in the world but when push comes to shove, they will do everything against it and you can see it. And dont get fooled, Netanyahu did the same thing in the past, he also voiced for two state solution knowing that it will never happen. See on the political arena it looks like there is big fundamental difference but in reality its all one and same. You know last week there was a vote in Knesset against two state solution and Benny Gantz himself supported it, now Lapid sort of left the room, but again its all political games. Now I on the other hand, do not play games, I am very honest person and say straight the way it is. I would never support or even personally allow for Palestine to be inside my country. Of course if the want to make it at any other country,. God bless them and I wish they be prosperous and successful. I only wish them well from the bottom of my heart, elsewhere. Again to conclude, the main consensus is pretty much the same, its just how each party markets their idea. Say Ben Gvir calls it openly, Netanyahu on the side, Gantz hides. I know many Israeli will disagree, but you dont need to be a rocket scientist as if you follow politics you will see that, and by the way i was involved with politics so I know this first hand. And just for your info, you know Ben Gvir and Smotrich are form two different parties who do share some slight political differences, indeed in the past the two parties were at odds with each other for ideological differences and those are kinda big.