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@Forestluv What power are you talking about for the average Joe. Men learnt from kindergarten to be strong, while the emphasis girls have on eachother is to be social. Men learnt to be providers, so they sacrafice long working hours to give their money to the family. Whats the power of the average Joe who has to work long hours as a truckdriver or get disabled by being a garbageman (lot of accidents happen). Where are the women in all those looked down upon jobs? (Which is unfair that garbagamen are looked down upon, garbagemen are essential for society to function). Are you talking about the few procent men that are on the top? Men are the biggest dropouts too. What does the average Joe have to do with this? He feels immense pressure to be strong and breadwinner while making long hours? Of course then if men make al the long hours to live up to the male identity story, they get better in the job and are overrepresented or get paid for more. It is then men who is most stuck in its gender role of being strong, being a provider etc, while feminist have freed the women much more. To someone mentioning men are not abused much: No men get in dysfunctional aggressive borderline like relationships and get abused too in big numbers. This is not in line with the story we tell about men being strong, thats why its ignored. And the shelters only one sided help women. If men are so massivly in power why are such things not taken care of? Because its not true!

@Carl-Richard Its a way too one sided analysis. It is only one perspective. Male privilege?

@Harlen Kelly I was being specific. Not about 20 years ago , not in poor countries but the west now , especially America. No opression is a way to crude word to describe the situation nowadays.

@Carl-Richard Again you are not contrituting any quality content. You are only doing a battle. Protecting your beloved feminism. Which you got so attached too. You don't even dare to look further. Thats why you are so defensive. Provide content and arguments a grand view instead of such snarky remarks. Male privilege?

@Carl-Richard Fantasy . You read nothing substantive about mens issues, only mainstream feminism. So you only know one perspective and have a big judgmental mouth.

@Carl-Richard Stop nagging me about the topic of another thread. Just google it, the weaknesses of not exact sciences and groupthink. Its not that difficult is it. Just understand its just an opinion of a group, who thought a bit more about groups of people. Its nowhere near the real truth. Just don't take it too seriously.

@Carl-Richard Yes I know the whole feminism dogma yes. Warren Farrell too , that why he began working on mens rights decades ago. It was very clear a one sided story. We need to advance to multiple perspectives. This unuanced picture is great for poor countries or decades ago. Now it an outdated theory , patriarchy. Its to simple. It has had its time. Now its time too advance further and to see the whole human picture. To become free of the old brute roles which were not an ideal deal for the common man at all. And to get from role mates to soul mates.

@Shin Yeah sure boys having dad deprived lifes and doing bad in education in big numbers over all the country is like peanuts!! If this was the case with girls immediatly something would be done about it! But because we care less about boys , we give shit about it. Men getting abused in relationships but there only being help for women its peanuts! Men dying four more times because there life sucks, its nothing! Men having there children taken away because the judge is biased because of feminism, its nothing! Thanks for demonstrating your empath gap! Men are more than human doings, they have emotions too. Ow well these are just pervasive influences over there lifes and feminism doesnt do shit in america about it. They dont walk the talk. You are very deep in your dogma of feminism. Yes a lot of the problems are way bigger for men. Thanks for demonstrating why I am SO NOT a feminist!! Your mainstream feminism in america is so bonkers! The film even got smeared by feminists, they are that vile, because they want to have there story about women who are victims to men. They are deep gaslighters. We need to distance ourselves for a while from these feminsts. They are not healing us.

@martins name Why you people always forget the daoists. Qigong is an energetic path too.

That mens are big victims of relational violence as well men shelters (were none at the of film, zero!) men do way badder in education nowadays than in the past, Boys fall behind in all developed nations than girls men are the ones dieing in war, men are the ones dying at work/as soldiers , mens commit 4 times more suicide rights of divorced parents are not equal for men which leads to a lot of sad stories. men are called the baddies(pathriachy) and we named good (feminism) Men are more stuck in their role. Earn money or be a loser. And there is more.

@Shin That is not enough. You feminist dont deliver enough on the mens side.

@bejapuskas The problem with a part of third way feminism especially in America is the story that men are the oppressor's. It makes it impossible to have a normal discussion and to have sincere empathy for mens issues. We have an empathy gap. The story about men being oppresors(patriachy) makes men very bad people. It is a primitive notion, while reality is way more nuanced. Both sexes have issues. The film shows clearly underappreciated parts of the male perspective which feminism hasn't picked up well enough. Of course I am talking about the western society and not poor countries. Because feminism nowadays is moving to much in a bad direction, I don't identify with being a feminist. You can say as a feminist that you want equal rights but if you one sided fail to deliver you are not walking the talk. Maybe in a future time that I will identify as a feminist , who knows. And I do want equal rights. Another issue

@Shin my country is further than United States with equal rights. And even in our country men shelters for abused men are only just recently added. In the year of the film there were none in America. While lots of victims of abuse are men. Men have certain issues as well and they should be listened to better. Inform yourself first, its very insulting to react to mens pain like you did with harsh judgements. The dumm thing of feminist in America is that some see mens rights as a danger to womens rights. In my country they are not like that. For example men get a lot days off of work when getting a baby. From role mates , too soul mates!

@Shin Don't you think you should know about the subject before commenting al kind of judgements?

@Leo Gura Nah you start listening to men. See the free film I just linked of the mens rights movement.

Nope gender isone of the biggest religions of modern times.

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@Carl-Richard Read the myth of male power or look on youtube for Warren Farrell. This man was so way way ahead of his time. My hero! The mainstream feminism story in United States is very distorted. Also watch the film: The red pill (Its free) https://www.imdb.com/video/vi740079129?playlistId=tt3686998&ref_=tt_ov_vi Important stuff to have in your intellectual bagage. That is missing on leos booklist.

He has done a lot of meditation too. Also he dares to cut through very controversial subjects. So I think he dares to kill his darlings, ideas, when they no longer fit him.

Sex is what makes life! Sexual energy is one of the nicest energies we have. Humanity is at a child level when its about sex. Osho describes the usual ejaculation of a man as like a sneeze. Taoist and Tantric sex wil make you more developed in this area. This video touches on quite some nice topics in this regard:

Cool that Charlie guy als has an hour long video on the myth of male power. That is the title of a book of Warren Farrell about gender , who was way ahead of his time https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Male-Power-Warren-FARRELL/dp/0425143813/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1620479982&sr=8-1

Yeah give Sam a 5 meo oppurtunity. Get him into that and become friends. Sam had a psyschedelic experience if I am right and that got him into spirituality. He should do the god molecule!

I especially appreciated this video. Usually because you go slow I have to put in much attention to stay alert. I like this speed. Some things you talked about clicked a bit better. Do need a bit of background to make sense of what you are talking. For the mainstream your talking like some sort of strange space cadet I guess.

Sure it can be part of a health food intake. Nothing wrong with it. A lot of unproven fairytales are around the internet , probably created by meat eaters.

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