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@Tyler Robinson Yeah and also why can't I open pm with you, because I already sent you like 2 messages. I mean if you want my take on your newest thread and other things then send me message and we can start talking <3

@zurew I am not pushing too hard on males, but actually what I did here is complete opposite. People need to wake up to the things that I say here or we are all fucked up. Again I am trying to show people that as a MAN you can't show white flag (this means surrending) the first time you see red flag. You have to learn tolerate something if you want to have anything precious in your life. The first time your muscles are sore when doing push ups, you can't just start complaining and whining. Yeah of course when you are just finding partners you can choose which feels like you want to continue dating, but when you already have feelings and so does her you can't just bounce the first time you see some red flags. Male have always been in a war and they have built big empires and towns and now you are ready to give your love to couple bad behaviors, what the fuck. What I said in the another thread already; majority of men are pussies and that needs to be changed. What I am talking about is bigger thing that our whole discussion here. I really hate seeing people breaking up for little things and could be changed. From all break ups you learn something yeah, but it leaves a scar in you if you don't know how to heal it and build yourself complete again. We need better relationship and dating advices instead of oh this is red flag oh I shouldn't go here. Having this dialogy even is dissapointing, because what I say should be understood in the first place. Also if we want to go very spiritual here the only thing which can heal that which has been damaged by love is MORE LOVE. So if someone is suicidal, depressed and doesn't have anyone then no amount of therapy, friends here and there and family will fix that. I mean yeah it helps and a lot, but those are the people who need love the most and if we teach this red flag thing to all people THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FUCKING DIE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TOLERATE A SHIT. What I talking about is emergency situation, because we first grow pussy males who can't have any women and the ones who get women are going to be picky and then no one is loving those who have couple irrelevant red flags. Also the thing is that any strong, healthy and loving guy could get things working with those females, but they don't want to "waste their time". HEAR PEOPLE THAT THOSE WHO ARE SUICIDAL ARE WASTE OF FUCKING TIME. I really care about people and that's why I may come as agressive, but that is what is needed so people wake up.

@KH2 That's the correct way to go bro

@Raze Answer to 1) Wrong if you don't do it from neediness. The guy driving Lamborghini isn't instantly needy. 2) Physical beautifulnes isn't the thing which makes people in love with you, but it qualifies you to try. -joNi-

@Emrie That's true progress in self-esteem, confidence and setting boundaries, let's go my baby : )

@zurew I don't understand where this "wasting time" everyone talks about comes from. If I am in relationship I expect that I need to put energy, time and recources to it and I actually would like to, because it makes me happy and so should make you too. I don't know what you are thinking about when you're talking about people with "mental illnesses", because those are normal people with couple bad behaviours. The point is that almost everyone has some behaviours you don't like and you should learn to accept them. Also if you do your job as a man correctly then it wouldn't take too long for bad behaviours to go away through genuine trust, love and honesty. It's also some type of test to you not to put any more gasoline into the fire with your own shit that would trigger the woman more. Also the point is that almost every girl you'll date has traumas or something similar and for real it's your job as a man to be supportive, directive and instructive to lead the relationship to better waters. It seems that no one on this forum has masculine traits that are about protecting, showing life and pushing to grow for the girl. People don't seem to understand that there are these underlying social dynamics that are tried to be suppressed. That's the core reason the relationships don't work nowadays, because you go as a male to the emotional parties with your girl. So I stay with my point that as long as you love her and she loves you back there shouldn't be any "red flags" that make that impossible.

Example Think about something you'd like to achieve in middle - long term. It could be anything from 3 months to couple of years. I'll tell you that you aren't going to achieve those goals without making change in your mindset. So the key is to think when you play piano that you're pianist, when you do push ups that you're fighter and when you study that you are very smart nerd. So you have to understand that whatever you do, you must put yourself to the stake. Guy who does push ups here and there can skip some trainings, but bloody soldier can't and that's why it's extremely important to train your disclipine. Main part Disclipine is skill of doing important things regardless of how do you feel. Many spiritual people may tell you to be gentle to yourself and your body, but that's highly misunderstood. That means not to believe your weaknesses, hate yourself or do anything stupid which could cause suffering in the long run. It isn't excuse card to pass training, work or studying when you feel low. Spirituality doesn't equal laziness, but that's something that you came up with yourself. The whole point is to have best life possible and if you can't achieve your dreams then don't kid with me that you'd have the best life possible, because you obviously don't. The main reason why people lack disclipine is that they lack vision of what they want and how they are going to achieve that in the future. In life you shouldn't wish things which you could have anyways. I mean you could wish, but at least don't sit on your sofa thinking that possibilities come knock at your door. When you start actually living this life FOR REAL and dropping your stupid expectations away you'll build yourself again way stronger than you ever thought was even possible. Think about your plans every day and do things which you need to do in order to have those. You have to learn to appreciate the path and the journey, because those are the only things you have at the end of the day. When you really like achieving something the results come faster than you thought. If you only do what you do to guarantee that you don't need to do it in the future then your mindset and goals are shitty. The goal is not to reach state where you can be lazy again, but to appreciate the joy of work so much that you don't mind doing it. Actually you will fall in love with your life and you can enjoy it by being and doing and that's the correct way to be happy always. End words Maybe it's kind of oldish, but I really believe doing couple push ups a day builds your male energy, disclipine and drive in life so I challenge you to do at least 100 push ups daily without breaking your streak. Time can't be your excuse, because last time I did 100 push ups it took me about 50 seconds so stop fucking crying and start pushing yourself. The goal is to make you soldier and fighter who achieves whatever you want from your life. So I really would be proud of you if you'd take 5 minutes to do as many push ups as you can and post your result here. With love -joNi-

@Ulax It can go either way, because what you do changes your "identity" which changes what you do and so for. Still you are right that the mindset has to change if you want to achieve long term goals.

@Ulax So this was fun, because the only disagreement was that you thought that I said that you could go in life being fully discipline without curing your traumas which I think is possible for some people, but I didn't even say that. I just meant that nothing is stopping you to become succesful and best way to start changing your life is by changing your actions so your mindset changes so your whole life transforms. Also I just wanted to point out that almost everything people say is excuse, because you are the only one who is stopping you.

@Nilsi I am not fighting about anything, but you're just missing one radical point. If you'd be in "better relationship" by your definition then anyways you'd use your time to make her feel as much love as possible. That's the point of relationship, to give. From that perspective it doesn't matter what like of partner you have as long as you love her, because she is here anyways just to receive your love and give some in return. Being male is to give good emotions, experiences and teachings to girl, that's just hard fact of being masculine.

@Nilsi You didn't answer to my question. You just said that you wouldn't be willing to use your time for that, but what would be better alternative to use time for, but to make the other one feel better.

@Nilsi Where would you use that time instead of making the other one feel better?

@Nilsi Men have to always be therapist for the girl and lead things and sort shit out. That's what it is being a man, holy fuck. @Ulax Good luck finding a partner who has all needs met ... @something_else Of cource you'll be needy if you have gave lot and received less. That's natural to want what you deserve. Bad relationships just fuck people up.

@something_else That building up is not beneficial for the male. That's the point. Of cource females can be in these states where the male expresses love through all possible levels, but at the end of the day female has possibility to bounce. Either you are going for the relationship after couple meetups or not. It's really frustrating to the males nowadays that they try to give everything and they end up crying alone in their home thinking about why they deserve this shit. You either love someone or not. You shouldn't need millions of hours with the other one to see that. @Nilsi How it is wasting time. If being for the other one is waste of your time then don't ever go to relationships, because if you really love the other one you wouldn't mind helping him/her. You'd actually want to help him/her as much as you can. Problem is that many people don't know how to sort things out. You have to be patient with each others so the thing could work. As I said previously; relationship is two people growing together, loving each other and helping each other on the way.

@Nilsi It's the same mentality that when the shit hits the fan I am out. In life there are things which are easy and hard. Those harder are the ones that actually are valuable in the long run. If you always try to prepare everything with your mind trying take the easy way out, you'll end up missing lot of things from life and also that way you'll never grow as an individual. I have started thinking if anyone on this forum can actually put effort in anything valuable. Everyone just thinks how to be as safe as possible without taking any action and that way you end up being weak.

@Nilsi Not necessarily. I mean whatever, dump another great loving guy, because you try to rationalize thing which is only about love.

@something_else People here don't seem to understand that some people progress faster on the relationships than others. Yeah he is acting weird, because he did that without knowing about the outcome. In the other hand he can believe so much in this relationship that he is all in knowing that love wins sorrow this time. Love is all about feeling connection and some of us can spot it faster than others. We are just heading into times where we use more time to think about which relationship is the best instead of letting our heart decide it for us. In this case it's clear.

@Ulax What's fun is that it doesn't even matter which is in the case, because that he cares about her and she is attracted to him is all that is worth millions of diamonds end of the day.

@Ulax Thanks, I'll wait you : )

@Tyler Robinson It isn't some rocket science as I explained previously. I saw from your journey that you would want to lay at him arms and be with him then that's what love is. You think about him and ask questions about him. If there wouldn't be any attraction you'd just left him, because of what he has done and you wouldn't be here asking these questions. Again the point is not to find partner who is the most developped, but the one who you authentically love and would like to grow with. That just means that you'll have lot of experiences and things to do with him. The whole red flag thing tries to show that there has been some problems in him/her life that causes some bad behaviours, but it itself shouldn't be reason not to do what your heart tells you. When love is not there the game is over and vice versa. All his behaviours may be because your and his status and state isn't too clear and he is stressing about it. You should see that true love melts and fixes all weird behaviours until love is only thing which stays. His behaviour just tells that he has lived a life with challenges and punches straight to the head. Just message me in pm and I'll drop my number if you want to have conversation about this thing and I'd be happy to help ya : ) Lovingly -joNi- ? ? ?

@Tyler Robinson What you should do is if you really love and care about him then go 100% to it, because he has maybe had problematic relationships where girls have left him. Core principle is that which you show to others is what you want/need from him/her. Therefore because he shows some type of loyalty to you he'd really want you to be loyal to him. He obviously loves you and would like to be in long term relationship with you. It isn't his fault that he experienced what he experienced and therefore you should forgive his weird behaviour. Relationship is all about growing together and accepting each others' challenges. Just let him know that you'll stay, if that's really in the case and he'll be happy. Red flag thing is kind of joke, because end of the day it's all about you how much you can live with the con sides of him. Nowadays people give up too easily and end up not finding anyone, because everyone has some "red flags". The only thing which matters is that if you 2 love each others and that's it. If there are some challenges then speak about them and come into good conclusions. With love -joNi-

@Yali You missed the whole point. First of all you are the only experience there is and you perceive and experience what you decide so if you don't want to experience having sex then don't do it. Don't try to mix up non-dual experiences with "´reality", because the thing is that the end of the day you have to live your life regardless of how awakened you are. Right now you are just using spirituality as an excuse to be lazy not learning how to approach women. Spirituality doesn't equal laziness.

@Ulax Why is that, could you elaborate on what are the exact points you agree/disagree so we can build bridge between perspectives and maybe even learn something?

@BipolarGrowth Yeah I could use app to track my running. Anyways I ran 8,6km (5,3 miles) in 52min and last time I ran that distance it took 58min so there is progress! I'll do yoga stretches, hop into cold shower and do wim hof breathing next.

Just did my workout, heading to run, babies!