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Btw I'll hop into cold shower now and I wanted to ask who's doing those still.

@Leo Gura Exactly! I'd want this forums discussions to change more towards this type of communication and that's what I am trying to do with my impact. Also if you want to be more conscious in leading then I think we should really pay attention how to up this forums communication skills, because I guess you agree that better communication in this forum leads to better personal growth among people here. I think we could do little collaboration work that is if I or almost anyone here makes great post breaking down some discussion you could feature (or name it tier 2 discussion or whatever) it so people see where we stand. -joNi-

@Leo Gura We could build good system with or without it and I understand that the whole death penalty sounds little off, but as you know, at the end of the day we have to make some decisions. This post wasn't too much about death penalty, but to see how these things should be thought in the first place. As I am making these posts on the forum that I have done lately the point is to show how tier 2 people think about problems. I aim not to have "opinions" about political things, but a worldview that seems most optimal taking account everything as well as possible. I'd define correct decision as a desicion that at the moment produces most love and growth. I understand that when we think about the problem again the correct solution could change, but with the system thinking we have to accept that we'll maybe never reach perfection and that shouldn't be the goal even. Basically better decision correlates with how many different perspectives have been taked into account. I am just trying to show people that don't discuss perspective against perspective, but instead worldview against worldview, because we need pay attention to the whole. Peace <3

@TheAlchemist brought good perspective to this thing, because if we don't kill the prisoner we could study his behavior. Counter argument to this is that I think we have lot to study only by looking to people who have strong mental illnesses who aren't in jail though. I mean if studying those people in jail is beneficial then that needs to be taken into account. We have to calculate money - knowledge ratio from this and then do decision based on this. Dangerous prisoners could do other harm too so that could be argument in favour of death penalty. @zurew has also brought good point that death penalty atm based on some study is more expensive than life sentence so that is also valid point, but that needs to be thought, because we could make giving death penalty cheaper than it is now by optimizing things. It's really weird that right now it costs so much, but maybe the cost is reasonable, I don't know. That needs to be researched more before anything too radical should be said towards any side.

@Ameer There where is hate will be love and therefore I don't thing hate is proper indicator that something is being done wrongly.

@zurew I think putting someone into jail or making him/her suffer just to make justice to the one who suffered in the first place is just egoistical. It is acting out of anger towards the person and I agree with you on this. Also I agree that right now around the world the jails aren't so optimal as they are in scandinavia and that should be changed, because the point is to make people learn as I said. That they don't work right now doesn't disprove that it should be the goal and thing to keep in mind.

@Tyler Durden Knowing the truths of game should be used to play the game better, not to destroy the game itself. Age is not just a number like everyone tries to say. It has incredibly important role in life. For example more years in a clock correlates with more experiences and therefore more wisdom. It doesn't matter if there is a past or future from the relative standpoint, because the reality is that you have to play this game still at the end of the day and you have to play with the rules that are there. Knowing that this is just a game can help emotionally though.

@zurew Point is not to minimize suffering, but to maximize love and killing everyone doesn't do that.

@Vibes What is natural and what isn't is just another mental concept. What you end up doing is natural no matter what you do.

This post is great example of when you try to mix absolute level knowledge with relative realm and it just doesn't make sense.

@Danioover9000 How I perceived this video if I remember it correctly was that MrGirl didn't just get what Destiny was trying to show.

@Bittu That's awesome bro!!

Sometimes you have a bad day, BUT SOMETIMES EVERYTHING IS ALSO JUST PERFECTION therefore new piano piece for you, my friend <3 Also to everyone: post more of your progress here so everyone can see your journey and motivate you . With love and courage -joNi-

@Sanguine Great work bro and keep in mind that the nofap doesn't need to last your whole life and actually it shouldn't, but it should only be used to train your mind to say no to short-term pleasures when needed. When you have done your training you can stop your nofap challenge, because actually it is unnecessary thing to do. Point is to masturbate when you really feel like doing so instead of doing it for the lack of better alternative. Masturbation and sex actually are beautiful spiritual practices so don't throw them completely away.

@Nilsi I understand that it wasn't about fish in the original post, but your problem in that analogy is that you think that it is having double standards if you don't like what the stucture is doing even if your actions play the role towards it. You've misunderstood what term double standards even mean. It would only be double standards if you accuse someone from the same behaviors that you wouldn't to yourself. In this scenario you're not accusing any people, but all the people as a whole and therefore it's not the same thing and therefore you are not hypocrite. Can you see the point I am making and if not show me why.

@Nilsi I am just answering exactly to what you have writed so explain me what you meant instead so I can think if it makes more sense.

@Nilsi More wrong claims. Watch the video in case you didn't know about it. The reason I am being pushy with showing your errors is because otherwise you think that you have double standards when in actuality you don't. What affects overfishing the most is not the individual who regularly enjoys fish, but instead it is systems who make it that way. I am just trying to show that you can eat your fish without any bad thoughts that you're hypocrite. You'd be hypocrite if you'd buy the fish from illegal fishers instead of the alternative source, because it's cheaper for you. Even in this scenario it could be okay, if you are too poor for real not to afford the legal fish product. Usually that'd be just excuse though.

@Nilsi It would be having double standards only if you hate people who do the same as you do. You only hate people as a whole so it's not the same thing and therefore it's not having double standards. Again wrong point. The fact that I offer you lot of money to give me lots of jewelry doesn't make it right you to steal it from someone else. The problem is the illegal fishing not the people who ask lot of fish by their actions. She's not.

That's actually wrong in many levels. So by existing you vote for overpopulation, by breathing to climate change and by eating to hungriness in africa :D??? There's difference in what you do personally and what you think should be done structurally. The point is that you have to take in accont your needs when you decide your actions and people's needs when you decide everyone's actions. So the action you ask for can be different if the needs are different.

@Nilsi Problem with double standards is that either you lie about your values or you don't act according to them. The problem in both of the scenarios is that you are not developing as a person the pace you could. In the fish analogy if you think it's wrong decision to you stop eating fish then you shouldn't and vice versa. Eating fish doesn't still mean that you vote for overfishing and therefore anyone who argues against you on this tries argumenting tactics. I agree that big picture problems should always be solved in structure level though.

@KpGoing125 You should aim to be in the moment, yes, but what I meant was that if you want to redirect your life so you'll reach your dreams you should aim to have flow in tasks you do daily so the progress happens almost accidentally. The journey will be long and that's why it should be also extremely enjoyable, because the path is the goal. There's nothing more to life than the life you live right now so make most of what you're doing right now and you'll find love, the true love, which's waiting you in the present moment. I meet you there <3

Almost everyone has that deep loneliness inside them so see if you find it through the next song. That's the only way to escape the prison you're in. Strength and love to your process, you beautiful soul <3 -joNi-

@KpGoing125 I guess you're feeling better already, because you did the action that it took. Important thing when you start doing things is to do lot of easy enjoyable things to get yourself in flow state. You don't need necessarily need to do the hardest things always till you exhaust yourself. Don't take this still as an excuse to be lazy, because you need to find balance in my advice which works for you. Add some walking/running in nature/outside in general to get yourself to better mood. If you don't have anything to do when you read this message then commit to this action NOW. Remember that you can post here happily when you actually did what I said and I'll cheer you up <3 -joNi-

I got the mile in 6:28, but it's still miserable.

@Rainy Sparkle Boom, that's something! : )