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Ah ok, my bad If someone has an anxious attachment style it probably isn’t a great idea. But I’m arguing for what I think is one of the healthier relationship dynamics, which assumes both people are fairly secure in attachment style.

Responding to @Valach too If a girl knows that you’re attractive to other women and yet you make it clear you chose her, and you love her, then there is nothing unhealthy about that. Unless you’re putting on an act and you’re planning to cheat on her. The “attractive to other women” part just puts you in a position where you can express that love very directly without any risk of it coming across as needy. It’s not social proof. I’m not saying you should actively hit on other women while you’re in a long term relationship to prove to your girlfriend that you’re attractive to women. The example I gave is social proof, to be fair. But that’s not the core point I’m making. The core point is about overall attractiveness, one component of which is social proof.

Ehm, no, sorry that's just not accurate. The trained models are general purpose enough that they can be used for novel tasks, especially inside an agent harness like Claude Code or Codex. They are still AI.

These reddit posts definitely encapsulate the healthier values from redpill and the manosphere quite well. If you can take this kind of advice and drop the rest of the baggage that comes from the space, that's the ideal. The issues arise when people build an identity around the manosphere or some subculture of it.

They have lots of casual sex and can be attractive, but they have extremely dysfunctional long term relationships. I assume that's not your goal. If you want a healthy long term relationship then don't look at dysfunctional relationships and try to model them. Look at healthy relationships between two secure people. If you express love in a secure and confident way it will drive a woman crazy for you. She wants to feel like you had a ton of options, but you chose her over all of them. If she feels like that you can be as loving as you like and it won't come across as needy because she knows you don't need her. You specifically chose her. Imagine the dynamic where you're at a club and a woman sees 5 or 6 different girls approach you, dancing with you etc. over the course of the night. But after all of that you go up to her. She's going to feel incredibly special. That's the feeling you want to cultivate in a long term relationship. "Yes, I could have plenty of other girls, but there's something special about you that I want, and that's why I love you so much"

For initial attraction and having lots of casual sex this works quite well. For a healthy long term relationship less so. You don’t want your girlfriend or wife walking on eggshells worrying you’re going to leave her, especially if she is the kind of women who is not short of options. Because at some point she’ll encounter someone better who gives her the affection she craves. She should (and deserves to) feel loved.

Ah I see what you mean. Yea obviously action is required to get out of that situation, but part of the reason people end up stuck in this situation in the first place is an inability to properly process your emotional state. Instead of facing up to the fact that you need to GTFO and make some changes you choose to believe that your partner isn’t that bad, distract yourself with substances, porn, social media etc. In order to start making change you need to accept this situation as it is, process it, and then take action.

Can you give an example?

I guess that’s fair enough, can you expand a bit more on that? How would you define frame?

I mean I wish you luck. Out of curiosity, what will you lose if you’re wrong?

4 times is not time and time again, the 5th cycle may exist under a completely different market scenario which does not produce the same reliable pattern. That's a fair goal, but in order to stand any chance of making 50%, 100% or more returns through only investing, you must accept a massive risk. You basically have to go all in, and if that's within your risk tolerance then fair enough I guess. The market doesn't care about what you need or what you believe, though. That may actually be an argument to take on less risk. It's pretty easy to get from 70% to 100% of your goal using less risky investments. If getting to 100% quickly requires risking the 70% of your goal you've already achieved, that really is just gambling.

I don't disagree, I'm more just curious, what do you feel like you got in terms of value from the manosphere?

It doesn't need to be able to do these things to have a significant impact on the world, though. The vast majority of the jobs in the world don't require much creativity. You're comparing AI to the absolute peak of humanity, which of course it cannot compete with. If it could it would be ASI. But when comparing with the average human it's very capable in many fields.

I mean kind of, yea. It depends on the degree of unpredictability and the risk to reward ratio. IMO crypto blurs the line between investment and gambling. In general I'd label anything that promises the possibility of a big win in a short timespan with a high degree of uncertainty/luck as at least gambling adjacent. This is the mechanism that creates gambling addicts. Most altcoins and all memecoins are so unpredictable that they are just straight up gambling. BTC is better, but there is still an incredible amount of uncertainty. I am quite sceptical of this. As the saying goes "past performance is not indicative of future results". There have been 3 cycles of four years, but that fact alone does not mean there is going to be a fourth. 3 is not a lot of datapoints either. We are also at an incredibly uncertain point in the world with an unstable president of the US and the looming impact of AI. And there's a dynamic whereby the more people that believe the fourth cycle is going to be a money making opportunity, the less of a money making opportunity it becomes. All of these, among many other factors, compound the uncertainty. I believe in Bitcoin as a concept, but I would not personally rely on that belief as evidence that the price of Bitcoin is going to keep going up, or follow predictable patterns.

It isn’t pre/trans fallacy. I’m arguing that manosphere content is detrimental even if you’re just starting out. It isn’t a phase to go through, it’s deadweight to be dropped. Inceldom as an identity has skyrocketed in popularity because of increased social isolation and because of the manosphere. These two things form a death spiral together. The more isolated you become the more time you spend online, the more time you spend online the more likely you are to get sucked into manosphere content, the more manosphere content you watch the more you’re told that you’re not good enough and that you’re all alone as a man. Rinse and repeat. Again, this is not accidental. This is a carefully crafted marketing funnel in action. The way out is not more manosphere content, it’s to break the cycle. Drop all of that shit, make some deep friendships and build a fun social life.

I'm going to be honest, this still just sounds like gambling psychology to me. Especially this part: You never know when the cycle will be, what the highs will be or what the lows will be. None of these things are very predictable, which makes it much more akin to gambling than investing. It's very analogous to the "just one more roll" mindset that you see from a gambler. Also this confuses me: You got in very early, if you'd sold nothing that bitcoin would be worth a fortune now, right? How did you lose 90% by not selling?

You can't just redefine terms to suit your own biases. What makes you think this is the case? I'm not naturally sociable either, and pickup/redpill theory actually made my social skills worse when I was into that many years ago. The intellectualism within the manosphere kills your vibes stone dead. Do you think the majority of the guys actually getting laid left right and centre give a shit about any of this? Or the guys who are in healthy loving relationships? No, they just focus on their own lives and doing what brings them joy, which is why they give off good vibes and reap the rewards of it. Obsessing over manosphere content online is subtle admission to yourself that you are low value, and that will always leak out in your interactions. It's fundamentally built into the framework with ideas like "men have no inherent value". That shit is toxic for your mind. It's all carefully crafted by influencers in that space to make you feel insecure so that they can present themselves as the solution, for a fee you understand. It's all a grift. In recent years I've largely always framed this area of self development as building social skills, and learning to express who I am as a person confidently. Call it bluepilled, but this has worked much better for me both in terms of results and my own mental wellbeing.

I relate to this as well, I've always struggled with execution. I figure out the plan and steps to accomplish what I want, and my brain seems to decide that's "enough" and that the actual execution doesn't matter beyond that. And ADHD diagnosis and meds have helped a lot in this regard

Exactly. The core issue is you can come up with a theory for how almost any behaviour could come from evolutionary pressure, but there is rarely any way to prove that your theory is correct. This makes it more akin to storytelling than a true science. That doesn’t mean the theories are all wrong, just that it’s easy to place far too much weight on them when culture, environment and social factors can also explain behaviour. Humans love a good story though which is what makes evolutionary psychology very appealing to many.

The definition of matriarchy is "a system of society or government ruled by a woman or women." So if most of the people in the highest positions of power within society are men, then by definition we don't live in a matriarchy. I agree, but if you internalise this way of thinking it will fuck up your vibes in subtle ways you don't even realise.

That was basically my thought. The post argues for 'vibes' being king but most women would interpret any of this as bad vibes. Not to say there aren't valid points in here, there are plenty. But in the bigger picture arguments it leans heavily on a lot of sensible sounding evolutionary psychology that actually has little evidence to support it. The use of the word matriarchy is odd as well, you just have to look at who all of the richest and most powerful people in the world are to see that we don't live in a matriarchy.

Could you expand on what you mean here?

What was your reasoning for buying crypto which made you so confident it would increase in value?

I think this shadow is quite common among INTP or ADHD type personalities, or those with high openness in Big 5. I relate to it as well. This desire to be unique and special. To lead an interesting life. Eventually you just need to accept that you (probably) aren't fundamentally very special, and that's OK. Counter-intuitively, when you accept that it makes it easier to accomplish interesting things because it shifts your perspective from "I am special and unique so I deserve Thing" to "I would like Thing in my life, how do I work towards getting Thing". 'Stage Blue shadow' encapsulates this issue really well, because stage blue heavily penalises individual uniqueness while valuing work ethic, monotony, and doing what needs to be done even if it's boring to you.

Why do you think you deserve the best women?