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https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/582784 “The study, published in the journal Socius, found that between 2007 and 2017, the percentage of 18-to 23-year-old men who had casual sex in the past month dropped from 38 percent to 24 percent. The percentage dropped from 31 percent to 22 percent for young women of the same age.” Casual sex and relationships have both significantly declined since the 90s and early 2000s. You’ve changed the argument again. In your previous post you said casual sex is bad because it desensitises your conscience, now you’re expanding on that by saying… porn desensitises your conscience? On that point I can agree, certain porn likely does. But your original point was that casual sex desensitises conscience, not porn. These are two separate arguments. Honestly, I’m getting tired of discussing this with you because your arguments and points are severely lacking in consistency and detail.

So how come as porn use has skyrocketed, promiscuity has gone down? ”desensitises you and your conscience” is very vague, please explain what you mean in more detail and perhaps with some examples

Again, this is a separate point. I do not see the issue with casual sex, so provide an actual argument first why casual sex is bad instead of “it just is, look bro” and we can talk about this next. But let’s conclude the initial argument first: do you stand by your statement that porn causes promiscuity?

Goalposts just got wayyyyyy wider. Let’s bring them back to the original point you made which was “porn increases promiscuity” If you concede that there is no evidence for this, we can discuss this next point.

Ironically it’s kind of kinky. Orgasm denial from the government We’ll call this regime The Directorate for Algorithmic Detection of Deviant Yankers, or D.A.D.D.Y for short.

It’s literally a 5 second google to get this information, but here’s one of the thousands of articles covering it for your ease https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-sex-recession-the-share-of-americans-having-regular-sex-keeps-dropping?utm_source=chatgpt.com Both single and married people are having less sex. Could porn have influenced this? Yea, potentially. But that’s a separate argument. Your point of “porn causes promiscuity” has little to no evidence backing it, in fact most of the evidence points to the contrary

“Promiscuity means engaging in casual sexual activity frequently with different partners or being indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners without long-term commitment or exclusivity.” Yet the overall amount of sex being had has gone down since the 90s. So as porn has increased, promiscuity has decreased

Lol, dream on Has it though? People are actually having less sex on average now than they did in the past. If anything, porn lowers the amount of promiscuity in the world

No no you misunderstand you see, this thread isn’t about age /s

Anybody with a phone can film porn, banning creation is probably harder than banning consumption

I think this is extremely naive. The UK govt has introduced a mandatory age check on porn sites. What happened? All the big porn sites implemented it, but all the little ones didn’t because the govt can’t make them. So now you funnel kids towards the sketchy ass unregulated porn sites instead of the ones that follow regulations. What you’re talking about would require coordination on a global level, massive internet restriction and monitoring infrastructure, potentially OS level monitoring on every single phone, laptop and computer. The privacy implications for this alone are horrific. And even then it wouldn’t be comprehensive enough to stop a mildly determined teenager with a Linux image.

The dream of the conservative techno feudalist

The demand for porn is so high that humans will now always find a way as long as technology is around. What are you going to do, get rid of phones and laptops and computers? install trackers on everybody's phone and laptop that's constantly scanning for porn? If you think it's possible then tell me how.

The logic of "it didn't exist 200 years ago so it's possible for it to stop existing now" is flawed on many levels. Once the genie is out of the bottle, putting it back in is impossible. I also don't think drugs and porn are inherently bad, nor is it wrong to enjoy sex for pleasure. Also, as with many things, the harder you try to restrict and ban something the more it becomes appealing.

Then what is it about, if not age?

lmao, the thread is about age, of course it's relevant

@EdgeGod900 lol top quality shitposting, i rate 10/10

The misery emanating from this is palpable

I've never used a pickup line in my life and I plan to keep it that way. Just natural conversation and playfulness is the way to go. What I mean by women don't want pickup artists is that they don't want the dude who gets up on a Saturday morning to go to a local high street and spam approach women.

I have had the opposite experience. Do you live in the US? It's incredibly easy to get a diagnosis and medication there, doctors diagnose ADHD left right and centre. Here in the UK it's a 5 year waiting list for a test unless you go private, and if you go private it's £1k to £3k for an assessment and like £100/m for medication. The tests are extremely thorough too. You need two forms filled out by close friends and family, one of whom has to have known you since you were a baby. Each of those forms is around 2-3 hours of work, extremely in-depth. Then you need to do around 4-5 hours of form filling yourself, and a 2-3 hour in person assessment. With 6 monthly follow up assessments, sometimes monthly if they think you need it. I agree with not victimising yourself if you have let's say mild to medium levels of ADHD like what I got diagnosed with. That can be overcome with willpower, though it can be exhausting. But if you've ever met someone with severe ADHD it is rude to tell them not to victimise themselves and to take responsibility for themselves, their condition is literally a disability that specifically prevents them from being able to do what you're asking them to.

This is also a fair point, I’ve experienced that too and it’s particularly hot It all stems from power dynamics. Fucked up people usually experienced unhealthy power dynamics as a child and that can seriously mess up your life, but it means you enjoy exploring or experiencing fucked up power dynamics sexually and that makes for amazing sex.

It is vaguely sexist and part of me really hates saying it, but in my experience it's absolutely true that the best sex I've ever had has always been with girls who were a bit crazy. I suspect it goes both ways to be fair, the guys who are the biggest assholes with the most issues are probably the best at fucking on average. I think crazy / fucked up people typically enjoy a good power dynamic which makes for great sex.

This is definitely a step in the right direction. I’d say focus on three things: getting instagrams / phone numbers talking to groups with your friends / wingmen and framing it like offering to show them around the city, or see if you can merge your groups for the rest of the night “Having a fun night” rather than “doing pickup” I know that last one will piss you off, but like I said before, women don’t really want a “pickup artist” so your goal as one is to make it seem like you’re not one. Basically try to form a connection with some girls beyond a surface level “approach”

In what scenarios are you meeting them? The older people get, the more they tend to know what they want and be more direct about getting it. The other factor is that young woman basically never need to make the first move, so they rarely do unless you’re something really special.