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I asked you specifically why you hate feminism. What are your reasons for believing that feminism is bad? What are the reasons that are most convincing to you?

Why do you hate feminism? Where have you sourced your ideas about what feminism is? These are not rhetorical questions, actually come up with your answers to them

Yea, but imagine you could get that without the very negative and toxic parts of redpill? Would that not be better? Also, I’m going to push you here and ask you for some legitimate actual practical things redpill has gotten you in your life

I don't like this comparison because you can point to the damage caused by excessive consumption of sweets and fast food but you can't do the same with porn and masturbation Most of the NoFap evidence is anecdotal. Which is not to say wrong, but simply that it isn't great to go around claiming no-fap is the way to go when really there isn't a whole lot of concrete evidence for it. That is the main point I wanted to get across here I'm not anti-no-fap, I'm just against no-fappers who are dead certain (and love to preach) that masturbation is extremely harmful for guys with little reason for thinking that way other than ideology and heresay I think this is a healthy way to view NoFap. I agree that it would definitely give you a healthy perspective on your needs. I disagree with demonising masturbation, though

No but the way you frame these struggles gives off a very "anti-men" vibe. Not saying that's bad or that you're wrong, just that if you frame things combatatively then that will start gender wars. Just like it does when incel or redpill dudes start posting their toxic garbage about women being their problem Most men's struggles talked about here aren't really framing women as the enemy though, or suggesting that women should change. Mostly it's framed as them wanting change or improve themselves when it comes to women, which is less combatative. Of course there are exceptions, there are def some very toxic guys that pop up here

I get that. But it is very clear that you have an intense dislike of men which means you're going to start them no matter what

It's undeniable that there is a rabbit hole on YT that indoctrinates a lot of men into redpill/anti-fem ideology. You watch one or two videos about it and YT starts recommending it to you like crazy. Been there done that. I don't really see how asking him if that's how he was introduced to redpill ideology is toxic What practical improvements has it made in your life? Redpill can prob get you results. But it also comes with a lot of toxic bullshit It's possible to take all the good stuff from redpill and apply it in a healthy, non-toxic way, without all the bullshit. I don't know why you would cling to redpill so strongly when there are better alternatives

The comparison to drug addiction seems silly to me. Drugs are clearly harmful to you when you become addicted Saying you are addicted to sex is kind of like saying you are addicted to water, air or food. You have a natural biological requirement towards these things, it isn't addiction. You do not have a natural biological drive towards hard addictive drugs

Is this a typo? If not that's genius

I've noticed that I tend to be able to get into a much better state walking around with a girl than sitting down somewhere My goto for dates now is to suggest we meet at some kind of landmark and just walk about until we find somewhere for drinks or coffee. Then after drinks/coffee we go walk around again. It's much easier to get out of your head and be playful while you're walking around so I like to start and end on that I've also had a fair few very platonic feeling dates, sometimes it's unavoidable. If I feel the date is completely boring and platonic I usually just go for a hail mary and escalate super hard, like just straight up suggesting we go back to her place. At that point you've got nothing to lose. So far that's worked twice for me

What?

Not in relation to masturbating/porn as far as I know. Feel free to point me in the direction of such info. I have never seen conclusive proof that masturbation is harmful in the same way as something like cocaine is, yet no-fappers frequently talk about it like it's the worst thing ever for you That's the part that irritates me. I'm not saying it isn't bad for you, I'm mainly arguing that there is little proof that it's anywhere near as bad for you as no-fappers often suggest I was pointing out that your body is designed to fuck lots and continue functioning optimally after fucking. Evolutionarily if your brain chemistry started to break down after lots of sex that would be incredibly disadvantageous Why is searching for novelty such a bad thing in your eyes? Most people hit equilibrium of novelty and effort anyway. It's not like you constantly look for new ways to jerk off, eventually you find what works and stick to it. It becomes a tool to release sexual thoughts and let you focus on more important things. Like eating food releases you from hunger

The fact that you are self-reflecting like this indicates that you're pretty smart anyway. And your post is well written. If you were really irreversibly thick as mince you'd be able to tell from your writing, but really it's very coherent. I'm not sure what you're worrying about to be honest. If you are consistently asking yourself questions like "am I actually smart?" then the answer is most likely that you are. Self-reflection requires a lot of intelligence The main thing that separates people who are really good at highly logical/academic pursuits from those who are not good at them is actually motivation rather than raw intelligence. Becoming an academic requires an insane amount of motivation and dedication to a field. Most academics have average or maybe slightly above average intelligence, but they've loved their field since they were a very young age

No you can't swap out masturbation with cocaine. Cocaine regularly kills people and there are a fuck ton of rigorous scientific studies showing its danger. As there is with smoking, drinking and fast food. You know what there are no rigorous scientific studies showing the danger of? Masturbation. The dopamine receptor thing is pure speculation. There is no real evidence for it Think about it logically: your body is literally designed to fuck. To fuck as much as it can, as often as it can handle. That is what evolution selects for in males. How dumb would it be evolutionarily if having a whole bunch of sex made you dissatisfied with life, or made you want to stop having more sex? You think the alpha males of the original human tribes who were fucking 4 girls a day would start to hate their lives and become desensitised and stop having sex? No because evolution would get rid of this gene very very quickly Another example: there are dudes who are 60, watched a whole bunch of porn, had a whole bunch of novel sexual experiences, and yet they are still just as sex crazed and rampantly horny as they were when they were 30. What happened to their dopaminergic system? Why has it not been 'downregulated'? I'm not saying there aren't downsides to masturbation. If you are properly addicted to it and it's interfering with daily life then it's obviously really bad. But if you jerk off fairly frequently it's like 15 mins a day max and it just becomes like eating and shitting. You do it to maintain a healthy mental space and clear your mind of sexual thoughts

Pickup is the same no matter where you do it: go talk to girls in clubs/bars at weekends, get yourself a wingman if you want It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that at the start. Once you can reliably go out and talk to some girls then start looking for tips on how to improve or location specific advice

Same thing happened to me when I was a teenager my man All I can say is thank fuck I outgrew that phase, my life has gotten a million times better since then. I wish you the best in doing the same

Dude this is entirely unrelated to what I asked you. Ask yourself this question, consider it, and write out an honest reply: Has redpill made any serious improvements to your life, or has it just given you a lot of beliefs you want to defend?

@itachi uchiha Yes this forum is quite anti-redpill because this forum is anti-ideology I know it feels like redpill is empowering you as a man, but honestly ask yourself: Has following the redpill ideology made any practical improvements to your life, or has it just instilled you with a set of theoretical beliefs you want to defend?

That’s pretty much the only solution. At some point these guys have got to start talking to girls instead of sitting on a computer If you talk to enough girls then some of them will like you These traits aren’t demonised these days

Dude you actually sound so toxic Did you get fucked by the YouTube anti-feminist, redpill rabbit hole?

It’s not greed, it’s more subtle than that. He would start to believe he is a 6/10 and that he is worthy of a 6/10

This pisses me off to no end. Whenever I look for transformation pics of skinny dudes into muscular dudes a whole fuck ton of them are just the same body under different lightning conditions or angles

Geez

The stats are something like 25% of relationships start online IIRC. It depends on the location but generally speaking even in the countries with the most online dating (the US unsurprisingly) only something like 1/4 girls use online dating. In Europe it’s closer to 1/10 It also doesn’t account for casual relationships, many of which still happen in person. People aren’t going to stop partying any time soon After he matched with five 5/10 girls he’d start looking for a 6/10. After a girl matched with five 5/10 guys she’d start looking for a 6/10, then you’re back where you started. Everyone wants the best deal they can get, so everyone fights and competes. There is no fairness in dating. You aren’t owed shit, you gotta fight for it

The problem is that there isn’t much society can do for them. It isn’t really like homelessness or poverty where you can have social initiatives and some government support to help those people The most society could do to help inceldom is treat it like a mental health issue, but look at how terrible we are at handling mental health as a society Regulating dating apps won’t help much. I agree they are a negative influence but they are not the cause of inceldom and removing them will not solve the problem. The fundamental problem is poor social skills